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"WORLDS IN COLLISION" -- Velikovsky/Neocatastrophism Sources



 
 
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Old December 5th 06, 11:39 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.astro,sci.anthropology,rec.arts.sf.written
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"WORLDS IN COLLISION"

(Masterpiece by Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky in 1950)
(Just Part of the First Chapter)

In an immense universe a little globe revolves around a star;
it is the third in the row -- Mercury, Venus, Earth -- of the
planetary family.

It is of a solid core covered over most of its surface with liquid,
and it has a gaseous envelope. Living creatures fill the liquid;
other living creatures fly in the gas; and still others creep and walk
upon the ground on the bottom of the gaseous ocean.

Man, a being of erect stature, thinks himself the prince of creation.
He felt like this long before he, by his own efforts, came to know how
to fly on wings of metal around the globe. He felt godlike long before
he could talk to his fellow-man on the other side of the globe.

Today he can see the microcosm in a drop and the elements in the
stars. He knows the laws governing the living cell with its
chromosomes, and the laws governing the macrocosm of the sun,
moon, planets and stars.

He assumes that gravitation keeps the planetary system together,
man and beast on their planet, the sea within its borders.

For millions and millions of years, he maintains, the planets have
rolled along the same paths, and their moons around them, and man
in these eons has arisen from a one-cell infusorium all the long way
up to the ladder to his status of Homo sapiens.

Is man's knowledge now nearly complete? Are only a few more steps
necessary to conquer the universe: to extract the energy of the atom
-- since these pages were written this has already been done -- to
cure cancer, to control genetics, to communicate with other planets
and learn if they have living creatures, too
.
Here begins Homo ignoramus. He does not know what life is or how it
came to be and whether it originated form inorganic matter.
He does not know whether other planets of this sun or of other suns
have life on them, and if they have, whether the forms of life there
are like those around us, ourselves included.

He does not know how this solar system came into being, although he
has built up a few hypotheses about it. He knows only that the solar
system was constructed billions of years ago.

He does not know what this mysterious force of gravitation is that
holds him and his fellow man on the other side of the planet with
their feet on the ground, although he regards the phenomenon itself
as "the law of laws."

He does not know what the earth looks like five miles under his feet.
He does not know how mountains came into existence or what caused
the emergence of the continents, although he builds hypotheses about
these, nor does he know from where oil came -- again hypotheses.

He does not know why, only a short time ago, a thick glacial sheet
pressed upon most of Europe and North America, as he believes it did;
nor how palms could grow above the polar circle, nor how it came about
that the same fauna fill the inner lakes of the Old and the New
World.

He does not know where the salt in the sea came from.

Although man knows that he has lived on this planet for millions of
years, he finds a recorded history of only a few thousand years. And
even these few thousand years are not sufficiently well known.

Why did the Bronze Age precede the Iron Age even though iron is more
widely distributed over the world and its manufacture is simpler than
that of the alloy of copper and tin?

By what mechanical means were structures of immense blocks built
on the high mountains of the Andes?

What caused the legend of the Flood to originate in all the countries
of the world? Is there any adequate meaning to the term
"antediluvian"? From what experiences grew the eschatological pictures
of the end of the world?

In this work, of which the present book is the first part, some of
these questions will be answered, but only at the cost of giving up
certain notions now regarded as sacred laws in science -- the millions
of years of the present constitution of the solar system and the
harmonious revolution of the earth -- with all their implications as
regards the theory of evolution ...

=============


Damn shame you never saw the following photo while
you were alive, Dr. Velikovsky. You weren't exaggerating
when you mentioned "an immense universe."

================================================== =

INTELLIGENT DESIGNER, IS THIS REALLY, REALLY YOU?


This is the Hubble Telescope's 2004 ultra view photo, one
that was taken of a totally blackened sky as seen through
an EIGHT-FOOT-STRAW. Result: galaxies upon galaxies
upon galaxies, meaning that our universe is far bigger than
we can even begin to fathom.

http://www.spacedaily.com/images/hub...-desk-1024.jpg

=================================

LOOK WHAT'S BEEN FOUND BETWEEN ANTHRACITE VEINS
(Physical Evidence Evolution is a Bunch of Crap)

http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F...HumanSkull.JPG
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F...HumanBrain.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F...sOldasCoal.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F...tDiscovery.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F...oreFossils.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F...sOldasCoal.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F...estResults.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F...OldestTool.jpg

Or, in other words:

FEDERAL LAW: You must be 18 to view these obscene pix.

http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/FOSSILS/TightFit.jpg
http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F...veTheWhale.jpg

I'm Ed Conrad and I endorse this message.

CRIME IN RHYME
The anthros, their interests SO vested
And Poor Truth for too long molested
Their deceit and deception
Near the point of perfection
If it were my call, they'd ALL be arrested

http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/F.../edyournot.gif

=================================

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Resource Assessment Division
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Brad Guth[_2_]
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"Ed Conrad" wrote in message


That's all perfectly good info, but what about just that of our doing
the math?

Venus at roughly 4.87e24 kg (+ whatever else was dragged along for the
ride):

How much mass would Venus w/moon have to lose if entering our solar
system at 42 km/s (say possibly losing 8e22 kg)? In order to have
ended up at 35 km/s.

Besides aerobraking and possibly even a little lithobraking, don't we
also tend to utilize gravity as for accomplishing the task of parking a
given satellite into whatever orbit?

Why not try using the regular laws of physics, and perhaps one of those
spendy supercomputers that we've all bought and paid for several times
over?
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