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gray hematite found Coal layer in Mars strata found by robots
Gray hematite which is mostly a water sediment deposit is found on
much of Mars (funny how Mars could not be Mar but has to have an "s" at the end of it-- I suppose like Paris) Anyway, I wonder if this robot on Mars can detect tiny amounts of coal dust that was scattered by a bolide impact over much of Mars? I wonder if the Gray Hematite is a nice outline of where the Mars Oceans used to exist when Mars was in a Earth orbit around the Sun and when Earth was in Venus's place which lasted for about 2 billion years. I do not know how capable is this robot in detection of coal powder or coal specks or coal signatures. Perhaps if these robots are so capable of detection of gray-hematite then they are capable of detecting coal dust. Now, is there a hematite mineral that has coal impurities? Is there a sedimentary rock that can have coal dust impurities? Other than the robots luckily visiting a site where a lump of coal or a coal seam is exposed, the best chance of running into coal is from the meteor bolide impacts of coal seams that thrust the fine powder over much of the surface. Archimedes Plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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gray hematite found Coal layer in Mars strata found by robots
With all due respect. Grey hematite is simply a form of iron oxide
Fe2O3 . It can form from water but it also can occur in volcanic rocks, metamorphic rocks. It is not "mostly" formed in the presence of water. Does anyone have a lit. reference of the geochemistry and kinetics for the formation of hematite as masses of large crystals? Maybe the USGS would be kind enough to provide one. Now that one lander has identified one rock ("Adirondak") as an olivine basalt, olivine has been detected locally in the soil and also from orbiter. That rock is very anguylar and doesn't appear to polished to a high luster by wind driven material. With the presence of ubiquitous olivine and unweathered basalt, it is unlikely that liquid water (as opposed to ice and vapor) has occurred on the surface of mars for a long long time. Absent water, absent water based life, and so no coal. The geomorphology of mars need not be sculpted by water. Dry debris flows and avalanches can be just as effective given time. Before the Apollo program, NASA went through intricate gyrations to "prove" (aided and abetted by the USGS) that most of the lunar craters were of volcanic origin--a concept not seriously entertained since the time of Barrelle. And NASA now still has an low level of imagination being guided by the Geological Survey. The mossbauer spec and other instruments shoud be able to detect carbon. If coal dust covered the surface it should have been detected. I know of no reason to suspect coal on mars. If it did, we should have to radically revise our theories of the formation of the planets. IMHO it would be more likely to find carbon dust on the surface in the form of micro-diamonds. Archimedes Plutonium wrote: Gray hematite which is mostly a water sediment deposit is found on much of Mars (funny how Mars could not be Mar but has to have an "s" at the end of it-- I suppose like Paris) Anyway, I wonder if this robot on Mars can detect tiny amounts of coal dust that was scattered by a bolide impact over much of Mars? I wonder if the Gray Hematite is a nice outline of where the Mars Oceans used to exist when Mars was in a Earth orbit around the Sun and when Earth was in Venus's place which lasted for about 2 billion years. I do not know how capable is this robot in detection of coal powder or coal specks or coal signatures. Perhaps if these robots are so capable of detection of gray-hematite then they are capable of detecting coal dust. Now, is there a hematite mineral that has coal impurities? Is there a sedimentary rock that can have coal dust impurities? Other than the robots luckily visiting a site where a lump of coal or a coal seam is exposed, the best chance of running into coal is from the meteor bolide impacts of coal seams that thrust the fine powder over much of the surface. Archimedes Plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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meteor diamonds formed from coal & Manganese Nodules gray hematite found Coal layer in Mars strata found by robots
Robert Ehrlich wrote in message news:X1XSb.194076$I06.2142739@attbi_s01...
With all due respect. Grey hematite is simply a form of iron oxide Fe2O3 . It can form from water but it also can occur in volcanic rocks, metamorphic rocks. It is not "mostly" formed in the presence of water. Does anyone have a lit. reference of the geochemistry and kinetics for the formation of hematite as masses of large crystals? Maybe the USGS would be kind enough to provide one. Now that one lander has identified one rock ("Adirondak") as an olivine basalt, olivine has been detected locally in the soil and also from orbiter. That rock is very anguylar and doesn't appear to polished to a high luster by wind driven material. With the presence of ubiquitous olivine and unweathered basalt, it is unlikely that liquid water (as opposed to ice and vapor) has occurred on the surface of mars for a long long time. Absent water, absent water based life, and so no coal. The geomorphology of mars need not be sculpted by water. Dry debris flows and avalanches can be just as effective given time. Before the Apollo program, NASA went through intricate gyrations to "prove" (aided and abetted by the USGS) that most of the lunar craters were of volcanic origin--a concept not seriously entertained since the time of Barrelle. And NASA now still has an low level of imagination being guided by the Geological Survey. The mossbauer spec and other instruments shoud be able to detect carbon. If coal dust covered the surface it should have been detected. I know of no reason to suspect coal on mars. If it did, we should have to radically revise our theories of the formation of the planets. IMHO it would be more likely to find carbon dust on the surface in the form of micro-diamonds. (snip what I wrote) Robert, I wonder if diamonds can be formed from a meteor or bolide striking Mars from Nonbio-carbon such as limestone. I guess I would also need to know how much connected is limestone to that of biological matter. So, would the Moon have tiny diamonds from all of its formed craters even if it is lifeless. I need to know whether diamond creation occurs on all planets that have meteor impacts? And if meteor impacts create diamonds regardless of whether the planet has life or has no life, whether there is some distinguishing characteristics between diamonds formed from meteor impacts upon biological-carbon or nonbio-carbon. I recall the Arizona meteor crater had thousands of very tiny diamonds and that Arizona was rich in biocarbon lifeforms when the meteor struck. But that a meteor impact in Africa created some of the largest and finest diamonds because it was lush in bio-life at the moment of impact. So I need to get some data on meteor created diamonds and whether diamonds can be formed from meteors impacting coal seams and whether those diamonds have a unique signature as per the coal origin. Also I am wondering whether Manganese Nodules would have formed on Mars if Mars had vast Oceans some 6 to 8 billion years ago. I suspect if manganese nodules are found would be proof of vast oceans and also we would be able to give parameters of those oceans because Manganese Nodules have a means of dating their accretions. Archimedes Plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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