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Yo Paine

I'm gonna "test the waters" by posting for the first time using the
DSL/Windows rig, since such a big issue has been made of using the
Webtv. The old rig did yeoman duty for years as a 100% efficient
spamjammer, allowing the new rig to remain untouched by spam. Windows
*suposedly* has very robust spam filters, so we'll see.

The recent dialog er, imbroglio with the Duck was *very* revealing and
eye-opening to the intensity and zeal of the VS-ers' worldview. Such
an up-close and personal encounter with it really drives it home. They
do believe avowedly in the "geometry-as-cause, gravity is a pseudo-
force" explanation of gravity. And apparently they see no conundrum in
declaring space to be pure void on the one hand, and on the other hand
claiming, by virture of its geometry/distortion, it accomplishes the
herculean tasks of gravity. Seeing the stark contrast between the VS
worldview and the true mechanism of gravity gives even greater
appreciation for the latter. And the Sun and stars shine even brighter
in the firmament.

The Duck has been hollering that Wolter is a fictitious character,
which he assuredly was not. Insofar as his FS-gravity model, which was
a mere 'sidebar' of the larger CBB model, one can forget Wolter..
because others, working independantly and without collaboration, have
deduced _exactly_ that same mechanism. I.e., a monopolar,
omnidirectional, "reverse starburst" flow of a *literal* medium,
pressure-driven and accelerating into mass, with mass synonymous with
flow sink.

Over the years, links to the webpages of Lindner, Shifman, Paxton and
Warren have been posted here (and recently, H.G. Ellis, a 'mainstream'
scientist). Warren has periodically updated his site, as seen here,
replete with the attendant math as usual -

http://www.olypen.com/hcwarren/

As a 'sidebar', he also goes into discussion of the Casimir effect and
is saying essentially the same thing we've been saying here- that it
demonstrates the unification of gravity and the subnuclear forces.

OK Windows, do your stuff and show how efficient your spam filters
are.
oc


This works fine, Bill. I guess the one posting
medium you were using was a little harder to
respond to, because it wouldn't format the
quoted parts properly. It took a few seconds
to correct the formatting, but that wasn't that
big a deal...

Unless of course you're a klo0less ko0k koPp
who's too idle-brained to take a few millisecs
to reformit, and so ****-brained he's gotta
actually post as if it's a big deal. Wattaho0t!

Mother Go0se and Duckstuff is a single-celled
glob of precambrian smegmaskum!

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
SMILE... it's a sin when you don't grin!

Indelibly yours,
Paine
http://www.savethechildren.org/
http://www.painellsworth.net

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:05:13 +0000, Painius k'lamed:
"Art Deco" wrote...
Painius wrote:
"Phineas T Puddleduck" wrote...
"Painius" wrote:

As i said, Phineas, observational evidence abounds.

So point me to a single one

Already did. You have no sense of it.

One published peer reviewed paper by Wolter please.

None existing to my knowledge. Wolter was not a scientist. But then,
scientists do not enjoy a total monopoly on creative thinking, do
they...

So you finally admit the mythical "Wolter" is just a pseudoscientist and
a saucerhead. No wonder your admiration knows no bounds.

Now you've done it, Mother... you and your ducky li'l sockpuppet are both
on my ****lits.

You have absolutely NO right to judge living people, and here you've gone
and insulted a dead deep thinker who could run rings around your obviously
mustardseed-sized mind.

Mother Goose? painius gets up real close to Art Deco and sniffs ...

you stink.

So who is "Wolter", that he should be so exempt from criticism?

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The Secretary of HomIntern ó wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:37:03 +0000, Painius k'lamed:
"Art Deco" wrote...
Double-A wrote:
On Jan 25, 5:25 pm, Art Deco wrote:
Phineas T Puddleduck wrote:
"Painius" wrote:

But you won't do this 'cause it's not your style! No, *your* style
is to tear into things you think you have no power to understand.
You are always underestimating yourself. If you stay "here" much
longer, you'll find that we just will not let you continue getting
away with this.

There is nothing to understand. You have nothing that makes any
quantitative predictions - you merely take a particular issue in
physics, utter some word salad and claim it "explains the issue".

Never have I seen anything even resembling science from the
saucerheads,
because I suspect they either lack the ability to make predictions
that are testable, or know that any attempt to put meat on the bones
will expose the weakness of your position.

But please, I DO so look forward to you "not letting me get away with
this".There is a fairly well-known psychology paper that is a
particularly
apt description of the saucerheads' condition:

J. Kruger, D. Dunning, "Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties
in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated
Self-Assessments," J. Personality & Soc. Psych. 77 (6) 1121-1134,
1999.

Abstract:
"People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many
social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this
overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in
these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach
erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their
incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it.
Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the
bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly
overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test
scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to
be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to
deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish
accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of
participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence,
helped them recogize the limitations of the abilities."

Note, however, with regard to the final sentence, that the saucerheads
have demonstrated that attempting to help them improve their skills is
a fruitless endeavor.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Seems you're suffering from this condition yourself, Art, since you
mistakenly think you are competent enough to set yourself up as a judge
of other people's competences on Usenet.

Your attempted diversion with a massive IKYABWAI failed.

Oh NO, Mother, AA succeeded with flying colors. What exactly *are* your
credentials for giving out all those cute li'l awards? Do you think that
having lots and lots of gooselings 'n sockpuppets gives you the right to

Any evidence that I have "lots and lots" of sockpuppets, painsnuh?

And as for the other bit of lame there, if you had even the barest
thread of clue you might realize that your obsessive delusion that I am
somehow the leader of AUK is silly. But again, one tends to forget
that the elite pseudoscience lamers see the world through
saucerhead-colored glasses.

be judge and jury over anybody you please?

Poor painsnuh, he desperately wants to give his kook awards back.

You appear to have a very low opinion of the process of speculation and
its importance to the science of astronomy. So before we can kowtow to
your esteemed low opinion, we must know just what it is in your background
that gives you the right to be such a stark-raving pahtooteynine
demondick?

For your perusal, Teh Way of Teh K00k, in my .sig. Everyone is guilty of
one or two of these flaws, maybe even three or four; k00ks have many of
them.

painsnuh is in the final stages of terminal denial, he won't understand.

--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert

The Secretary of HomIntern ó wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:05:13 +0000, Painius k'lamed:
"Art Deco" wrote...
Painius wrote:
"Phineas T Puddleduck" wrote...
"Painius" wrote:

As i said, Phineas, observational evidence abounds.

So point me to a single one

Already did. You have no sense of it.

One published peer reviewed paper by Wolter please.

None existing to my knowledge. Wolter was not a scientist. But then,
scientists do not enjoy a total monopoly on creative thinking, do
they...

So you finally admit the mythical "Wolter" is just a pseudoscientist and
a saucerhead. No wonder your admiration knows no bounds.

Now you've done it, Mother... you and your ducky li'l sockpuppet are both
on my ****lits.

Oh dear, I've insulted the god of the saucerheads. Whatever shall I do
now.

You have absolutely NO right to judge living people, and here you've gone
and insulted a dead deep thinker who could run rings around your obviously
mustardseed-sized mind.

Mother Goose? painius gets up real close to Art Deco and sniffs ...

you stink.

So who is "Wolter", that he should be so exempt from criticism?

No one knows except the saucerheads, but one of them has created a
kook****e of worship:

http://community-2.webtv.net/oldcoot/ContinuousBigBang/

As for criticism, they don't cotton much to having their favorite
balloons deflated.

Speaking of kook****es, don't miss this one:

http://home.att.net/~Paine_Ellsworth/

--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert

Painius wrote:

Who cares.

You cared enough to top-post this whine.

"Art Deco" wrote in message
...

This is why you are up for the VVF this month, painsnuh.



--
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Painius wrote:

"Art Deco" wrote in message...
...
Painius wrote
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote...
in message ...

Double-A Our bodies are a electro- chemical machine,and the chemicals
produce enough electricity to light a 60w bulb. I think100w would cause
the brain to race?? This thought just jumped in a racing brain might
cause a person to become manic Hmmmm Could to much electricity cause
this condition? Could this be measured,say by the peaks of brain waves
when a person's brain starts to race? Are brain doctors studying this
effect? Double-A I think you have stumbled on some thing with your 100w
brain Bert

I wonder

Just give that up, it's not working for you.

Phineas you ignorant slut...

I wonder if you've mistaken Brad for Alan again?

Alan for Brad? You po li'l ho, you allus gettin'
dem 2 confo0o0o0sed an' confucntionated,

...aincha.

FOAD

Oh this hurts, deeply. I shall be forced to leave usenet forever now.

--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert

Painius wrote:

"Phineas T Puddleduck" wrote...
in message news
In article ,
"Painius" wrote:

Fell short of explanations, John. Like e.g., what
exactly is it about space-time that stretches, curves
and expands at an accelerated rate of velocity, John?

What exactly is it about spacetime that flows?

Good question, Phineas! According to Einstein,
space-time is a "relativistic field". By saying
that space-time is a field, Einstein is indicating
a field of energy. Notice he did not specify what
form this energy takes. This he left to science.

And by calling the field of space-time "relativistic",
Einstein is relating the energy field to his Theory
of General Relativity and giving it MOTION! Note
that he did not elaborate upon what form the
motion of the field of space-time takes. This he
left to science.

By relating the moving space-time to GR, Albert
Einstein is giving us a very strong hint that this
"field in motion" CAUSES gravity. And we note
that he never actually came out and said this.

So we speculate and say that if this moving field
*does* cause gravity, then it must be flowing
into matter, pushing matter together. We sit and
wonder what *kind* or *type* or *form* this
energy must take in order to be so powerful as to
cause matter to condense together, or to keep
large orbs of matter in stable orbits around larger
orbs. Can you see it, Phineas?

Can you see that if Einstein was correct, then the
sheer, unbridled power of flowing space makes
nuclear power look like a child's lit sparkler?

And like what actually *causes* gravity, John? Like
i said, don't feel too badly about the many, many
times i've asked you about these things, and you
just ignored the questions or you gave redundant
responses like...

"Space-time is curving!!!" "Space-time is curving!!!"
"Space-time is curving!!!" "Space-time is curving!!!"

...or, you lamed me to avoid having to answer me.

It's okay, really, because nobody expects the void
to contain any real answers, scientific or otherwise.

Found any gravitons yet, John? any pixies?

But yet those pixies are infinitely more believable then your fairy
stories

Are they? Virtually *every* particle that has been
theorised has been "discovered", Phineas. Every
single one except the graviton. Even the elusive
neutrinos are believed to have been found. But
not that cute little grav-pixie, nope, not a trace.
And science has been looking for the graviton for
a long, long time. Is it so kooky to explore other
possibilities?

I'm still waiting for you to explain how energy, electric field
strength, magnetic field strength, and mass density are all measured
with the same units, painsnuh.

--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert

Painius wrote:

"Phineas T Puddleduck" wrote in message
news
In article
,
"Painius" wrote:

And why wouldn't it still be EM?

Why would it have to be EM, Phineas? The way i
see it, EM is an energy derived from spatial energy.
EM energy, as well as nuclear strong and weak
energies are less dense than matter, and matter is
less dense than spatial energy, so we must be
prepared for the distinct probability that spatial
energy is not EM energy. It's energy in some other
form. And just as the low frequencies can be EM
or sonic forms of energy, there may be more than
one form of spatial energy, as well as an entire
range of wavelengths.

This is just unbridled idiocy. Pure, and free from reason. You truly
have no idea. Why should oscillating electric and magnetic fields
suddenly change over to some new "form of energy" simply because of
their frequency.

Phineas you ignorant slut...

Why is sonic energy different from EM energy?

Why do you ask stupid questions?

--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert

Painius wrote:

wrote in message...
roups.com...

Yo Paine

I'm gonna "test the waters" by posting for the first time using the
DSL/Windows rig, since such a big issue has been made of using the
Webtv. The old rig did yeoman duty for years as a 100% efficient
spamjammer, allowing the new rig to remain untouched by spam. Windows
*suposedly* has very robust spam filters, so we'll see.

The recent dialog er, imbroglio with the Duck was *very* revealing and
eye-opening to the intensity and zeal of the VS-ers' worldview. Such
an up-close and personal encounter with it really drives it home. They
do believe avowedly in the "geometry-as-cause, gravity is a pseudo-
force" explanation of gravity. And apparently they see no conundrum in
declaring space to be pure void on the one hand, and on the other hand
claiming, by virture of its geometry/distortion, it accomplishes the
herculean tasks of gravity. Seeing the stark contrast between the VS
worldview and the true mechanism of gravity gives even greater
appreciation for the latter. And the Sun and stars shine even brighter
in the firmament.

The Duck has been hollering that Wolter is a fictitious character,
which he assuredly was not. Insofar as his FS-gravity model, which was
a mere 'sidebar' of the larger CBB model, one can forget Wolter..
because others, working independantly and without collaboration, have
deduced _exactly_ that same mechanism. I.e., a monopolar,
omnidirectional, "reverse starburst" flow of a *literal* medium,
pressure-driven and accelerating into mass, with mass synonymous with
flow sink.

Over the years, links to the webpages of Lindner, Shifman, Paxton and
Warren have been posted here (and recently, H.G. Ellis, a 'mainstream'
scientist). Warren has periodically updated his site, as seen here,
replete with the attendant math as usual -

http://www.olypen.com/hcwarren/

As a 'sidebar', he also goes into discussion of the Casimir effect and
is saying essentially the same thing we've been saying here- that it
demonstrates the unification of gravity and the subnuclear forces.

OK Windows, do your stuff and show how efficient your spam filters
are.
oc


This works fine, Bill. I guess the one posting
medium you were using was a little harder to
respond to, because it wouldn't format the
quoted parts properly. It took a few seconds
to correct the formatting, but that wasn't that
big a deal...

Unless of course you're a klo0less ko0k koPp
who's too idle-brained to take a few millisecs
to reformit, and so ****-brained he's gotta
actually post as if it's a big deal. Wattaho0t!

Mother Go0se and Duckstuff is a single-celled
glob of precambrian smegmaskum!

*ding*

Nice haet lits, CotM nominee.

--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert

"Art Deco" wrote in message...
...
Painius wrote:
"Phineas T Puddleduck" wrote...
in message
news
In article ,
"Painius" wrote:

Fell short of explanations, John. Like e.g., what
exactly is it about space-time that stretches, curves
and expands at an accelerated rate of velocity, John?

What exactly is it about spacetime that flows?

Good question, Phineas! According to Einstein,
space-time is a "relativistic field". By saying
that space-time is a field, Einstein is indicating
a field of energy. Notice he did not specify what
form this energy takes. This he left to science.

And by calling the field of space-time "relativistic",
Einstein is relating the energy field to his Theory
of General Relativity and giving it MOTION! Note
that he did not elaborate upon what form the
motion of the field of space-time takes. This he
left to science.

By relating the moving space-time to GR, Albert
Einstein is giving us a very strong hint that this
"field in motion" CAUSES gravity. And we note
that he never actually came out and said this.

So we speculate and say that if this moving field
*does* cause gravity, then it must be flowing
into matter, pushing matter together. We sit and
wonder what *kind* or *type* or *form* this
energy must take in order to be so powerful as to
cause matter to condense together, or to keep
large orbs of matter in stable orbits around larger
orbs. Can you see it, Phineas?

Can you see that if Einstein was correct, then the
sheer, unbridled power of flowing space makes
nuclear power look like a child's lit sparkler?

And like what actually *causes* gravity, John? Like
i said, don't feel too badly about the many, many
times i've asked you about these things, and you
just ignored the questions or you gave redundant
responses like...

"Space-time is curving!!!" "Space-time is curving!!!"
"Space-time is curving!!!" "Space-time is curving!!!"

...or, you lamed me to avoid having to answer me.

It's okay, really, because nobody expects the void
to contain any real answers, scientific or otherwise.

Found any gravitons yet, John? any pixies?

But yet those pixies are infinitely more believable then your fairy
stories

Are they? Virtually *every* particle that has been
theorised has been "discovered", Phineas. Every
single one except the graviton. Even the elusive
neutrinos are believed to have been found. But
not that cute little grav-pixie, nope, not a trace.
And science has been looking for the graviton for
a long, long time. Is it so kooky to explore other
possibilities?

I'm still waiting for you to explain how energy, electric field
strength, magnetic field strength, and mass density are all measured
with the same units, painsnuh.

Phineas you ignorant slut...

Is this your idea of uniting the forces? To find a
way for them to all be measured using the same
units of measure?

Actually, that's not so uninteresting... hmm...

Nope, sorry, you're still a sto0pid ho, Mother Goose.

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SMILE... it's a sin when you don't grin!

Indelibly yours,
Paine
http://www.savethechildren.org/
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