No Evidence Crew Survived -- Till When?

John Maxson wrote
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The tiles on those floating pieces certainly looked damaged
to me (in Av Week's excellent color photos), despite the fact
that they were designed to withstand very high heating.

The photo caption begins:

"Lower right-hand forward fuselage of the orbiter
Challenger ..."

Allegedly it was the *left-hand* forward fuselage which so
damagingly struck the water. My mind is open to heat, impact,
and crush damage at altitude. My book's conclusions (based
upon cause's different from NASA's) reopen the 'cabin' door.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)

Check these pages for several pictures of the remains of the orbiter :
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...cuperes_OV.htm
and
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...s_OV_part2.htm

This page for the remains of the Solid Rocket Boosters :
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...uperes_SRB.htm

This page for the remains of the External Tank :
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...cuperes_ET.htm


Lou







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John Maxson wrote
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The tiles on those floating pieces certainly looked damaged
to me (in Av Week's excellent color photos), despite the fact
that they were designed to withstand very high heating.

The photo caption begins:

"Lower right-hand forward fuselage of the orbiter
Challenger ..."

Allegedly it was the *left-hand* forward fuselage which so
damagingly struck the water. My mind is open to heat, impact,
and crush damage at altitude. My book's conclusions (based
upon cause's different from NASA's) reopen the 'cabin' door.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)

Well done! Good presentation technique, Lou.
Your site will go on my favorites list. Thanks!

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)



Lou Van Hille wrote
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Check these pages for several pictures of the remains of the orbiter :
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...cuperes_OV.htm
and

http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...peres_OV_part2.
htm

This page for the remains of the Solid Rocket Boosters :
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...uperes_SRB.htm

This page for the remains of the External Tank :
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...cuperes_ET.htm


Lou

"John Maxson" wrote in message
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Well done! Good presentation technique, Lou.
Your site will go on my favorites list. Thanks!

Lou Van Hille wrote
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This page for the remains of the Solid Rocket Boosters :

http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...uperes_SRB.htm


On your favorites list? One of the pictures on this page shows a burned-out
hole in an SRB near the joint, and is labelled:

Le trou de la fuite

which altavista translates as

the hole of the escape.

"fuite" = "escape" but "fuite"=" leak" too

1) I did not make the site. It's a French site I found on the web and I find
the entire site quite impressive :
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/
It's also one of my favorite and one of the most complete (and interesting)
fan-made site I've found

2) "Le trou de la fuite" would be translated by "the hole of the leak" (or
"the hole where the leak was"... or "the place in the SRB where the flame
made a hole though the metal" or however you would correctly say it in
english... Sorry for my grammar mistakes).


Lou




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"John Maxson" wrote in message
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Well done! Good presentation technique, Lou.
Your site will go on my favorites list. Thanks!

Lou Van Hille wrote
in message ...

This page for the remains of the Solid Rocket Boosters :

http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/...uperes_SRB.htm


On your favorites list? One of the pictures on this page shows a
burned-out
hole in an SRB near the joint, and is labelled:

Le trou de la fuite

which altavista translates as

the hole of the escape.

"Lou Van Hille" wrote in message
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"fuite" = "escape" but "fuite"=" leak" too

1) I did not make the site. It's a French site I found on the web and I
find
the entire site quite impressive :
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/
It's also one of my favorite and one of the most complete (and
interesting)
fan-made site I've found

2) "Le trou de la fuite" would be translated by "the hole of the leak" (or
"the hole where the leak was"... or "the place in the SRB where the flame
made a hole though the metal" or however you would correctly say it in
english... Sorry for my grammar mistakes).

You're doing just fine. I thought I knew what the French meant, but I
wanted an authoritative translation (clumsy as altavista's was).

In article , richard.p.henry@saic says...

"Lou Van Hille" wrote in message
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"fuite" = "escape" but "fuite"=" leak" too

1) I did not make the site. It's a French site I found on the web and I
find
the entire site quite impressive :
http://www.capcomespace.net/shuttle/
It's also one of my favorite and one of the most complete (and
interesting)
fan-made site I've found

2) "Le trou de la fuite" would be translated by "the hole of the leak" (or
"the hole where the leak was"... or "the place in the SRB where the flame
made a hole though the metal" or however you would correctly say it in
english... Sorry for my grammar mistakes).

You're doing just fine. I thought I knew what the French meant, but I
wanted an authoritative translation (clumsy as altavista's was).

As with any interface between different languages, the context in one
language is not as readily apparent in another. The word for "escape"
would naturally also apply to the concept of a leak, since a leak is a
matter of contents escaping from a container.

Consider the word "apartment" in English. When us English speakers hear
it, we all know (from the context in which it always appears) as a set of
rooms in a building where a person or family live. But if you look at
the word itself, it means "a place that is apart or separated from
something else." If you were a French speaker, and had never encountered
the word "apartment" in its familiar (to us) context, you might have a
hard time figuring out what the hell was being dicussed... and you'd
probably not be faulted for thinking that this "separation," this
"apartness," was forced or non-intentional.

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It's not the pace of life I mind; | Doug Van Dorn
it's the sudden stop at the end... |

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--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)



Roger Balettie wrote in message
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-- please point out a single "quality post" from John.

Thank you.
Roger
--
Roger Balettie
former Flight Dynamics Officer
Space Shuttle Mission Control
http://www.balettie.com/

"John Maxson" wrote in message
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Roger Balettie wrote in message

-- please point out a single "quality post" from John.

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No qualifier?


--

Daniel
Mount Charleston, not Charleston, SC

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--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)


Charleston
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"John Maxson" wrote in message
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Roger Balettie wrote in message

-- please point out a single "quality post" from John.

http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=baoc0o%24gf6%241%40ins22.netins.net

No qualifier?


--

Daniel
Mount Charleston, not Charleston, SC