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Old June 19th 05, 11:23 AM
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To Niels

'Perturbations' are a Newtonian device that locks out consideration of
the explanations of observed anomalies in the motions such as Ole
Roemer's observence of Io and subsequently his insight and
explanation,by geometric means,of the motion by attributing an
astronomical correction known as the Equation of Light.This correction
was hijacked by theorists who turned it into the 'speed of light'
,reduced it to a mathematical notation 'c' .

http://dibinst.mit.edu/BURNDY/OnlinePubs/Roemer/chapter3(part2).html

Pasting gravitational solutions directly on to observations is an
incredible act of astronomical vandalism and especially as Newton is
fairly nonchalant about mixing the Roemerian insight on finite distance
with Keplerian motion or what amounts to the same thing using the
former to explain the latter.

"Then the primary planets, by radii drawn to the earth, describe areas
no wise proportional to the times; but that the areas which they
describe by radii drawn to the sun are proportional to the times of
description.

For to the earth they appear sometimes direct, sometimes stationary,
nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are always seen
direct, and to proceed with a motion nearly uniform, that is to say, a
little swifter in the perihelion and a little slower in the aphelion
distances, so as to maintain an equality in the description of the
areas. This a noted proposition among astronomers, and particularly
demonstrable in Jupiter, from the eclipses of his satellites; by the
help of which eclipses, as we have said, the heliocentric longitudes of
that planet, and its distances from the sun, are determined."

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/phaenomena.htm

Do any of you,and I mean any individual here with even the faintest
idea that something has gone wrong,have an idea what happened to
Roemer's insight in this horrible era where 'sourse dependency' is
treated as something profound.

Not one of you nor any institution has made an effort to tackle these
issues out of either ignorance or incapacity and you accept
'perturbations' when that tiny variation which Roemer noticed becomes
enormous on the scale in the relationship between the position and
motion of other galaxies to ours,it is an exciting avenue that remains
buried under a century's worth of relativistic /homocentric garbage
based on a perversion of Roemer's Equation of Light.

Dance of the planets indeed !,you have them dancing for the last 3
centuries so what other indignity can you dump on humanity and
astronomy.

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Old June 20th 05, 12:25 AM
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On 19 Jun 2005 08:26:20 -0700, "RMOLLISE" wrote:



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To Niels

'Perturbations' are a Newtonian device that locks out consideration of
the explanations of observed anomalies in the motions such as Ole
Roemer's observence of Io and subsequently his insight and


HI Gerald:

I have said it before, and I will say it agagin:

http://hobbiton.org/pancake_bunny.jpg

Hope that helps!

Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of:_Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope_
http://members.aol.com/RMOLLISE/index.html


Thank you.
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Old June 20th 05, 10:43 AM
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To Rod

Perturbations did not exist within the astronomical method before
Newton insofar as the anomalous behavior of the motions of planets
such as retrograde motion or Io's anomalous motion have heliocentric
geometric solutions ,the former as the changing orbital speeds of Earth
and Mars or the latter,the changing orbital distances between Earth and
Jupiter. -

http://r2d2.stcloudstate.edu/~womack...tropicmars.jpg

Kepler observed the motion of Mars against the background stars in an
18 year period from a perspective of the motion of the Earth ( Panis
Quadragesimalis) and not as Newton has it as mean Sun/Earth distances
against a celestial sphere.

"That the fixed stars being at rest, the periodic times of the five
primary planets, and (whether of the sun about the earth, or) of the
earth about the sun, are in the sesquiplicate proportion of their mean
distances from the sun." Isaac

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/phaenomena.htm

"The proportion existing between the periodic times of any two planets
is exactly the sesquiplicate proportion of the mean distances of the
orbits, or as generally given,the squares of the periodic times are
proportional to the cubes of the mean distances." Kepler


I would dearly love to show you the Panis Quadragesimalis of Kepler to
illustrate the point or the Newtonian error but the most famous
astronomical representation of the motion of Mars seen from Earth from
the book Astronomia Nova does not exist on the entire internet.You can
note the difference between Kepler's perspective and Newton's but the
chances are you would spindoctor Newton or make a silly one line insult
directed towards me.

Huge shortcuts were taken by Newton and whether you care or not,the
result of the obvious shortcut was the catastrophic introduction of
the anti-astronomical framehopping -

"That the fixed stars being at rest, the periodic times of the five
primary planets, and (whether of the sun about the earth, or) of the
earth about the sun, are in the sesquiplicate proportion of their mean
distances from the sun.

This proportion, first observed by Kepler, is now received by all
astronomers; for the periodic times are the same, and the dimensions of
the orbits are the same, whether the sun revolves about the earth, or
the earth about the sun. And as to the measures of the periodic times,
all astronomers are agreed about them."

That is a big bright shining Newtonian lie for Kepler wrote this -

". . . the ancient hypotheses clearly fail to account for certain
important matters. For example, they do not comprehend the causes of
the numbers, extents and durations of the retrogradations and of their
agreeing so well with the position and mean motion of the sun.
Copernicus alone gives an explanation to those things that provoke
astonishment among other astronomers, thus destroying the source of
astonishment, which lies in the ignorance of the causes." 1596,
Mysterium Cosmographicum

This is why you cannot fit this Newtonian monstrosity (which destroys
the astronomical relationship between axial and orbital motion) -

http://astrosun2.astro.cornell.edu/a...dereal_day.gif

Into Keplerian this insight on planetary motion and especially the
second law (designated as a law by Newtonian disciples to suit their
ballistic agenda) -

http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronom...ages/04f15.jpg

Teaching people to use a telescope is a worthwhile pursuit and I have
never said otherwise, but it is far from being astronomy yet you call
yourselves astronomers when it is unwarranted at present.I am sorry
that you do not comprehend the garbage of Newton as he goes about
maneuvering astronomical terms for his purpose but they are ultimately
insincere and unethical under scrutiny.The most obvious error is the
destruction of the relationship between axial and orbital motion or
what amounts to the same thing - the adoption of 23 hours 56 min 04 sec
for axial rotation and astronomical sidereal justification.It is an
enormous lapse of reasoning,where Hooke pulled Newton up on his
previous errors,Newton made sure he was ambiguous enough to conceal
this chronic error.

 




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