...Hezbollah unveils Child-Armored Rocket Launch System

Fact one!

Everyone in Lebanon, if not the entire planet, knows that
the minute Hezbollah fires a rocket that a precision bomb
will be coming back in minutes. EVERYONE knows that!

In fact, Hezbollah has probably turned the fire and run
strategy into a well oiled machine by now.


Fact two!

They admitted this morning they KNEW that building was
full of woman and children.

Is there anyone that thinks those Hezbollah troops did not
know what would happen when they fired that missile?
Imagine yourself setting up the launcher knowing those
children are next door. Would you fire it knowing
what would happen minutes later?

Would you do that???

No, no moral person would do that. Only cowards and
murderers would do that. And no doubt they did it with
a big grin. Ha, ha, we'll fix the Israelis this time, think of
the sound bites....they said...as they quickly and quietly
in the night drove the launcher there and fired it.

And ran away.

Islam has no morality, they have no decency. They should
be ashamed of themselves as a culture, religion and race.


s

basically what Hezbollah is doing is recruiting

The only way to defeat Hezbollah (apart from
kill em all and let God sort em out) is for
Hezbollah to be expelled by the Lebanese
and Palestinians.

No chance of that now! Hezbollah and Hamas
have used recruitment lessons learned from Iraq
and Afghanistan; if 'innocents' are used as a shield
and if those innocents are killed in retaliatory strikes,
Hez and Ham get another cohort of insanely
vengeful jihaddis....

Israel of course knows this.
They don't care really - a large part of what Israel is
doing at the moment seems to be the munitions
expediated removal of business competitors.
Lebanon *was* doing quite well for itself.
Quite a few Israelis and Lebanese were just quietly
building peaceful prosperous fulfilled lives for
themselves. This annoys the religious types and the
power mad of all persuasions, because it means they
become less and less relevant to people who want to move
into a bright and peaceful future, with religion
and the religious increasingly marginalised.
The religiuos and power mad do not like this...

What the Israelis and Islamics need to be
careful of is creating rabid 'secular' hatred
Against the lot of 'em.
There will come a time where the
moderates are extremalised against all of the
cynical politico/religious manipulation that is grinding
their peaceful lives into dust.
We may even see conc. camps with Jew, Muslim
and Christian heading towards the chamber...
The mullahs, priests and rabbis first, followed by the
politicians.

And with the arms dealers saved for special treats at the end...

And with Jerusalem/Mecca just kept as Museums.

YAY

How to do this - pardon Saddam
and arm the Baathists to the teeth.
Give 'em the mandate of secularising the Middle East

Cat amongst the pigeons?
))

"jonathan" wrote in message
...

Fact one!

Everyone in Lebanon, if not the entire planet, knows that
the minute Hezbollah fires a rocket that a precision bomb
will be coming back in minutes. EVERYONE knows that!

In fact, Hezbollah has probably turned the fire and run
strategy into a well oiled machine by now.


Fact two!

They admitted this morning they KNEW that building was
full of woman and children.

Is there anyone that thinks those Hezbollah troops did not
know what would happen when they fired that missile?
Imagine yourself setting up the launcher knowing those
children are next door. Would you fire it knowing
what would happen minutes later?

Would you do that???

No, no moral person would do that. Only cowards and
murderers would do that. And no doubt they did it with
a big grin. Ha, ha, we'll fix the Israelis this time, think of
the sound bites....they said...as they quickly and quietly
in the night drove the launcher there and fired it.

And ran away.

Islam has no morality, they have no decency. They should
be ashamed of themselves as a culture, religion and race.


s

"BlagooBlanaa" wrote in message
u...
basically what Hezbollah is doing is recruiting

The only way to defeat Hezbollah (apart from
kill em all and let God sort em out) is for
Hezbollah to be expelled by the Lebanese
and Palestinians.

No chance of that now! Hezbollah and Hamas
have used recruitment lessons learned from Iraq
and Afghanistan; if 'innocents' are used as a shield
and if those innocents are killed in retaliatory strikes,
Hez and Ham get another cohort of insanely
vengeful jihaddis...


The Jihadists rely on civilian deaths to increase their
power. Whether it's car bombs in market places, or
civilians caught in crossfire, to them ...'it's all good'.

But we should try to look at the big picture. Which
is looking pretty dim for our side lately. Hasn't anyone
noticed that since Iran elected Pres. whatshisname that
the Jihadists have stepped up dramatically?

Somalia has fallen to Iran proxies, Afghan is seeing
substantial renewed fighting, the Iraqi sectarian
violence exploded and now Iran's proxies have
pretty much taken Lebanon.

Four fronts. And we are losing three of them.
Iran is behind all of them.

This is becoming a world war between Iran and the US.
And we are losing.

And here we have Kofi Annan saying we need to disarm
Hezbollah through political means. What a fool. Hezbollah
does not give up anything, they take by force.

It only takes a small foothold into politics by the Jihadists
to take working control of the country. As any opposition
is met with assasination and car bombs by the armed
wing.

I only see one way out of this, stop the four proxy wars
and start one at the source. We need to go after Iran
big time. We're going to have to strangle their economy
so they can't afford to carry on such massive expenditures
with the Jihadists around the world.

The world is going to have to learn to live without Iranian oil.
And so is Iran, we need to take out their ability to pump
oil and kill their golden goose. As Iran is rolling in cash
right now due to oil prices. Remember, the more they
stir up crap, the more money they have to finance
terrorists.

Just trying to put out the fires Iran is starting plays
into their hands big time. We need to go for the
source, their oil industry.

Else Iran becomes the next superpower.


..

Israel of course knows this.
They don't care really - a large part of what Israel is
doing at the moment seems to be the munitions
expediated removal of business competitors.
Lebanon *was* doing quite well for itself.
Quite a few Israelis and Lebanese were just quietly
building peaceful prosperous fulfilled lives for
themselves. This annoys the religious types and the
power mad of all persuasions, because it means they
become less and less relevant to people who want to move
into a bright and peaceful future, with religion
and the religious increasingly marginalised.
The religiuos and power mad do not like this...

What the Israelis and Islamics need to be
careful of is creating rabid 'secular' hatred
Against the lot of 'em.
There will come a time where the
moderates are extremalised against all of the
cynical politico/religious manipulation that is grinding
their peaceful lives into dust.
We may even see conc. camps with Jew, Muslim
and Christian heading towards the chamber...
The mullahs, priests and rabbis first, followed by the
politicians.

And with the arms dealers saved for special treats at the end...

And with Jerusalem/Mecca just kept as Museums.

YAY

How to do this - pardon Saddam
and arm the Baathists to the teeth.
Give 'em the mandate of secularising the Middle East

Cat amongst the pigeons?
))

"jonathan" wrote in message
...

Fact one!

Everyone in Lebanon, if not the entire planet, knows that
the minute Hezbollah fires a rocket that a precision bomb
will be coming back in minutes. EVERYONE knows that!

In fact, Hezbollah has probably turned the fire and run
strategy into a well oiled machine by now.


Fact two!

They admitted this morning they KNEW that building was
full of woman and children.

Is there anyone that thinks those Hezbollah troops did not
know what would happen when they fired that missile?
Imagine yourself setting up the launcher knowing those
children are next door. Would you fire it knowing
what would happen minutes later?

Would you do that???

No, no moral person would do that. Only cowards and
murderers would do that. And no doubt they did it with
a big grin. Ha, ha, we'll fix the Israelis this time, think of
the sound bites....they said...as they quickly and quietly
in the night drove the launcher there and fired it.

And ran away.

Islam has no morality, they have no decency. They should
be ashamed of themselves as a culture, religion and race.


s

jonathan wrote:
: Islam has no morality, they have no decency. They should
: be ashamed of themselves as a culture, religion and race.

And the Pope having exterminated Cathars, or of Jews getting their
Roman partners in crimes against humanity to put a jewboy of their own
kind on a stick means nothing?

What religion(s), if any, would you put encharge of Earth?

How many Islamic folks helped to perpetrate the cold-wars?

How many Islamic or Muslims were in the space race fiasco?

How many Islamic or Muslim souls are into bloody profit gouging via
oil?

Saddam wasn't even a member of our Arab oil cartel. Until we got
involved, fuel was the next best thing to being as free as water in
Iraq (in fact, I think fresh/distilled water cost considerably more
than fuel), and otherwise Saddam was nearly always the under-priced
underdog of the spot oil market.
-
Brad Guth

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
oups.com...
jonathan wrote:
: Islam has no morality, they have no decency. They should
: be ashamed of themselves as a culture, religion and race.

And the Pope having exterminated Cathars, or of Jews getting their
Roman partners in crimes against humanity to put a jewboy of their own
kind on a stick means nothing?

What religion(s), if any, would you put encharge of Earth?


It doesn't really matter if it's a religious, military or socialist
dictatorship. The system properties of such societies are
clear and unambiguous.

Rigid systems do not change or adapt over time. Yet
the needs of people and other countries do.
So the interests of a rigid govt and the people inherently
.....drift apart...over time. So stress builds within
the society and with other countries.

Conflict is inevitable from any kind of dictatorship.
Both within and with democracies.

To deflect this internal stress such govt always need
to find an 'enemy' to hate. To use to deflect anger
to others and rally support. Such viscous cycles
of hate and war are inevitable from dictatorships.

Religious extremism is the worst kind of all.

The kind of anti-semitism practiced today by Islam would
shame even the Nazis. If Israel gave back the west bank
today nothing would change. These dictators need
an enemy and hate to stay in power.

The only rational answer is a govt that is as adaptive
as the people.....democracy.

Israel is not the problem, it is the dictators, kingdoms
and religious fanatics that have plaqued that region
for decades.

It doesn't help or matter who is to blame for those
dictatorships. All that matters is how to change
them into democracies now.

The battle we're all watching now is more important
to our future then most imagine. A win by Hezbollah
and the entire region falls into the hands of Iran
and their extremist leader.

And then it'll be impossible to stop them from getting
nukes and they will use them. We are fighting now
to prevent a regional nuclear war five or ten years
from now.

We cannot let Iran succeed in taking over Lebanon, Somalia
Afghanistana and Iraq.

To save their lives and our future.






How many Islamic folks helped to perpetrate the cold-wars?

How many Islamic or Muslims were in the space race fiasco?

How many Islamic or Muslim souls are into bloody profit gouging via
oil?

Saddam wasn't even a member of our Arab oil cartel. Until we got
involved, fuel was the next best thing to being as free as water in
Iraq (in fact, I think fresh/distilled water cost considerably more
than fuel), and otherwise Saddam was nearly always the under-priced
underdog of the spot oil market.
-
Brad Guth

jonathan,
Obviously yourself of those of your kind firmly believe in liars and
some of the worse possible crooks running and otherwise raping this
world, with the ends of their collateral damage and the ongoing carnage
of the innocent that's always justifying as to the means that you
clearly approve of.

"Religious extremism is the worst kind of all."
But yet obviously you don't believe that religion has ever been and
still is the greater and thus controlling portion of most government.

Obviously you don't what to think about the past, no matters how
horrifically dead wrong, nor consider upon the right hear and now, or
much less upon that of whatever the current administration has planned
for the upper most 0.1% surviving WW-III.

Do you also train your dog the same as you've trained your kids,
without honest education, a stitch of discipline or remorse?

BTW; there are many friendly dictatorships on Earth. I bet your home
or office is even one of them.
-
Brad Guth


jonathan wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
oups.com...
jonathan wrote:
: Islam has no morality, they have no decency. They should
: be ashamed of themselves as a culture, religion and race.

And the Pope having exterminated Cathars, or of Jews getting their
Roman partners in crimes against humanity to put a jewboy of their own
kind on a stick means nothing?

What religion(s), if any, would you put encharge of Earth?


It doesn't really matter if it's a religious, military or socialist
dictatorship. The system properties of such societies are
clear and unambiguous.

Rigid systems do not change or adapt over time. Yet
the needs of people and other countries do.
So the interests of a rigid govt and the people inherently
....drift apart...over time. So stress builds within
the society and with other countries.

Conflict is inevitable from any kind of dictatorship.
Both within and with democracies.

To deflect this internal stress such govt always need
to find an 'enemy' to hate. To use to deflect anger
to others and rally support. Such viscous cycles
of hate and war are inevitable from dictatorships.

Religious extremism is the worst kind of all.

The kind of anti-semitism practiced today by Islam would
shame even the Nazis. If Israel gave back the west bank
today nothing would change. These dictators need
an enemy and hate to stay in power.

The only rational answer is a govt that is as adaptive
as the people.....democracy.

Israel is not the problem, it is the dictators, kingdoms
and religious fanatics that have plaqued that region
for decades.

It doesn't help or matter who is to blame for those
dictatorships. All that matters is how to change
them into democracies now.

The battle we're all watching now is more important
to our future then most imagine. A win by Hezbollah
and the entire region falls into the hands of Iran
and their extremist leader.

And then it'll be impossible to stop them from getting
nukes and they will use them. We are fighting now
to prevent a regional nuclear war five or ten years
from now.

We cannot let Iran succeed in taking over Lebanon, Somalia
Afghanistana and Iraq.

To save their lives and our future.



How many Islamic folks helped to perpetrate the cold-wars?

How many Islamic or Muslims were in the space race fiasco?

How many Islamic or Muslim souls are into bloody profit gouging via
oil?

Saddam wasn't even a member of our Arab oil cartel. Until we got
involved, fuel was the next best thing to being as free as water in
Iraq (in fact, I think fresh/distilled water cost considerably more
than fuel), and otherwise Saddam was nearly always the under-priced
underdog of the spot oil market.
-
Brad Guth

jonathan,
Obviously yourself and those of your kind firmly believe in corporate
and of those born-again religious and/or Skull and Bones liars along
with some of the worse possible crooks among crooks running and
otherwise raping this world, with the ends of their global warming
pollution, collateral damage and the ongoing carnage of the innocent
that's always justifying as to the means that you've clearly approved
of.

jonathan; "Religious extremism is the worst kind of all."
But yet obviously you folks don't want us to believe that religion has
ever been and much less still is the greater and thus controlling
portion of most government.

Obviously you don't what to think about the past, no matters how
horrifically dead wrong, nor consider upon the implications of what's
right hear and now, or much less upon that of whatever the current
administration has planned for the upper most 0.1% surviving WW-III.

Do you also train your dog the same as you've trained your kids,
without an honest education, a stitch of discipline or remorse?

BTW; there are many friendly and sufficiently progressive national
dictatorships on Earth. I bet your home or office is even one of them.
-
Brad Guth


jonathan wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
oups.com...
jonathan wrote:
: Islam has no morality, they have no decency. They should
: be ashamed of themselves as a culture, religion and race.

And the Pope having exterminated Cathars, or of Jews getting their
Roman partners in crimes against humanity to put a jewboy of their own
kind on a stick means nothing?

What religion(s), if any, would you put encharge of Earth?

It doesn't really matter if it's a religious, military or socialist
dictatorship. The system properties of such societies are
clear and unambiguous.

Rigid systems do not change or adapt over time. Yet
the needs of people and other countries do.
So the interests of a rigid govt and the people inherently
....drift apart...over time. So stress builds within
the society and with other countries.

Conflict is inevitable from any kind of dictatorship.
Both within and with democracies.

To deflect this internal stress such govt always need
to find an 'enemy' to hate. To use to deflect anger
to others and rally support. Such viscous cycles
of hate and war are inevitable from dictatorships.

Religious extremism is the worst kind of all.

The kind of anti-semitism practiced today by Islam would
shame even the Nazis. If Israel gave back the west bank
today nothing would change. These dictators need
an enemy and hate to stay in power.

The only rational answer is a govt that is as adaptive
as the people.....democracy.

Israel is not the problem, it is the dictators, kingdoms
and religious fanatics that have plaqued that region
for decades.

It doesn't help or matter who is to blame for those
dictatorships. All that matters is how to change
them into democracies now.

The battle we're all watching now is more important
to our future then most imagine. A win by Hezbollah
and the entire region falls into the hands of Iran
and their extremist leader.

And then it'll be impossible to stop them from getting
nukes and they will use them. We are fighting now
to prevent a regional nuclear war five or ten years
from now.

We cannot let Iran succeed in taking over Lebanon, Somalia
Afghanistana and Iraq.

To save their lives and our future.


How many Islamic folks helped to perpetrate the cold-wars?

How many Islamic or Muslims were in the space race fiasco?

How many Islamic or Muslim souls are into bloody profit gouging via
oil?

Saddam wasn't even a member of our Arab oil cartel. Until we got
involved, fuel was the next best thing to being as free as water in
Iraq (in fact, I think fresh/distilled water cost considerably more
than fuel), and otherwise Saddam was nearly always the under-priced
underdog of the spot oil market.
-
Brad Guth

I recommend you contemplate Transnistria and suitcase bombs.

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
oups.com...

jonathan,
Obviously yourself and those of your kind firmly believe in corporate
and of those born-again religious and/or Skull and Bones liars along
with some of the worse possible crooks among crooks running and
otherwise raping this world, with the ends of their global warming
pollution, collateral damage and the ongoing carnage of the innocent
that's always justifying as to the means that you've clearly approved
of.


You talked of truth before. The truth as I see it is that the Jihadists
are Nazi's in robes and beards. Racial purity is replaced with
religious purity. Cult of personality is replaced with religious cult.
And hate of jews is replaced with...oh that's right it's still jews.

The purity of their hate justifies any crime at all.

And just like the Jihadists, Nazi Germany rose from the
ashes of war and economic misery.

The only difference between then and now is that
there wasn't any nuclear bombs then. And Germany
didn't sit atop the world's most important resource.

Then we waved paper at the Nazis until one day
we found ...the hard way... that they had the world's
most powerful military. And they couldn't wait to
use it. The Jihadists can't wait either.

We apoligized for their hate back then and looked
the other way, and almost 50 million people died
as a result.

Did we do the wrong thing then? Are we doing the
wrong thing now? You can't have it both ways.



jonathan; "Religious extremism is the worst kind of all."
But yet obviously you folks don't want us to believe that religion has
ever been and much less still is the greater and thus controlling
portion of most government.

Obviously you don't what to think about the past, no matters how
horrifically dead wrong, nor consider upon the implications of what's
right hear and now, or much less upon that of whatever the current
administration has planned for the upper most 0.1% surviving WW-III.

Do you also train your dog the same as you've trained your kids,
without an honest education, a stitch of discipline or remorse?

BTW; there are many friendly and sufficiently progressive national
dictatorships on Earth. I bet your home or office is even one of them.


If you compare the workplace to a dictatorship, then you don't
know the meaning of the word.



-
Brad Guth

One of my lose cannons must have punched the correct "do not push"
button because, now I'm getting the warm and fuzzy message:

GOOGLE/error FORBIDDEN "Your client does not have permission to get
URL /?hl=en from this server."

Pretty neat, as it only further proves that I'm even more right than I'd
thought. Whereas now I'm getting officially blocked from even reading
of whatever's within Usenet. E-Book burning GOOGLE/Usenet style. (must
have been something I said that's taboo/nondisclosure worthy).

jonathan,
The word "dictator" is not actually restricted to only accomplishing the
bad and the ugly.

Obviously you haven't an honest clue as to what true fascism cloaked as
democracy on behalf of benefiting the rich, as heavily derived from the
hard-core of what certain religions has nearly always been all about
from the very beginnings of recorded time. Prior to WW-II, there had
been more dictator quality of the bad and the ugly within the Pope than
Hitler, and perhaps a few other religions were even tad bit worse.
Remember that at times there wasn't anything too dastardly applied
against Cathars or Jews as coming from the Catholic pope side of this
insider arrangement, and I'm not at all certain they don't suck and blow
more than their fair share as of today.

If it wasn't for the religious far right, as being our democratic
puppeteers, as such there wouldn't have been half the wars, and we'd be
trillions upon trillions of hard earned dollars as well as decades ahead
of this technological game, of likely having been accomplishing human
space travels and explorations upon other planets and moons, and we'd
have established clean and renewable energy to spare, with crude oil
worth at most $10/barrel.

Instead, we've got this ongoing energy fiasco, along with a nasty
butt-load of global warming and Muslim blood flowing instead of oil, as
having no apparent end in sight. Because it clearly didn't have to be
this way, whereas obviously it's going just the way you and of your kind
like it.

Your 'so what's the difference' cop-out;
: Did we do the wrong thing then? Are we doing the
: wrong thing now? You can't have it both ways.
If this isn't sufficient proof that you're a certified Third Reich (aka
GW Bush) collaborator, then I don't know what else would qualify as
such.

As humans we're allowed to make honest mistakes. However, we're not
allowed to cover thy butt and continue to make those same mistakes over
and over by way of continually blaming others. Provocation of others to
the breaking point of their eventually reacting is not exactly fair play
in my book of rules, though it's obviously a first page must do tactic
within your cloak and dagger book of democratic rules, especially the
chapter that pertains to various methods of basically lying and of
creating and sustaining a cold-war so that you and your friends can
profit at the demise of others, including if need be those of your own
kind.
-
Brad Guth


"jonathan" wrote in message

You talked of truth before. The truth as I see it is that the Jihadists
are Nazi's in robes and beards. Racial purity is replaced with
religious purity. Cult of personality is replaced with religious cult.
And hate of jews is replaced with...oh that's right it's still jews.

The purity of their hate justifies any crime at all.

And just like the Jihadists, Nazi Germany rose from the
ashes of war and economic misery.

The only difference between then and now is that
there wasn't any nuclear bombs then. And Germany
didn't sit atop the world's most important resource.

Then we waved paper at the Nazis until one day
we found ...the hard way... that they had the world's
most powerful military. And they couldn't wait to
use it. The Jihadists can't wait either.

We apoligized for their hate back then and looked
the other way, and almost 50 million people died
as a result.

Did we do the wrong thing then? Are we doing the
wrong thing now? You can't have it both ways.


jonathan; "Religious extremism is the worst kind of all."
But yet obviously you folks don't want us to believe that religion has
ever been and much less still is the greater and thus controlling
portion of most government.

Obviously you don't what to think about the past, no matters how
horrifically dead wrong, nor consider upon the implications of what's
right hear and now, or much less upon that of whatever the current
administration has planned for the upper most 0.1% surviving WW-III.

Do you also train your dog the same as you've trained your kids,
without an honest education, a stitch of discipline or remorse?

BTW; there are many friendly and sufficiently progressive national
dictatorships on Earth. I bet your home or office is even one of them.

If you compare the workplace to a dictatorship, then you don't
know the meaning of the word.




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