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Old October 3rd 11, 04:14 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Marvin the Martian
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Default Obama's space policicy is no space program.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?
id=CNG.947744aa7f2a9543ab7c4b0e24b9136c.221&show_a rticle=1

It is a sad day because the Chinese are running a better space program
than we are.

The Chinese are also the biggest holder of US debt.

I would like to see the US have a sensible space program, but we're held
back by a funding process that encourages failure and our third rate
educational system.

It is sad and humorous that a hand full of captured NAZIS were able to
put men on the moon using mostly slide rules, adding machines and
drafting by hand where as today we can't do the same with super computers
and CADD.

The goals of our space program were also uninspiring. President Bush only
wanted to return to the Moon so we could get more rocks - trying to equal
the feat of the German-American space program. And Bush was audacious
enough to say "but do with after I leave office!"

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Old October 3rd 11, 05:05 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default Obama's space policicy is no space program.

On Oct 2, 8:14*pm, Marvin the Martian wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?
id=CNG.947744aa7f2a9543ab7c4b0e24b9136c.221&show_a rticle=1

It is a sad day because the Chinese are running a better space program
than we are.

The Chinese are also the biggest holder of US debt.

I would like to see the US have a sensible space program, but we're held
back by a funding process that encourages failure and our third rate
educational system.

It is sad and humorous that a hand full of captured NAZIS were able to
put men on the moon using mostly slide rules, adding machines and
drafting by hand where as today we can't do the same with super computers
and CADD.

The goals of our space program were also uninspiring. President Bush only
wanted to return to the Moon so we could get more rocks - trying to equal
the feat of the German-American space program. And Bush was audacious
enough to say "but do with after I leave office!"


China has the industrial base. Joe Six pack has had falling waging for
decades and his union in likely go the way of the Dinos. The free
trader/traitors
doomed the United States space effort as did the Afgan and Iraq wars.
Welcome to the third world USA where everything is fracked and the
water table is either dry or contaminated or will be given some more
decades.

Bush talked so what. Maybe the free enterprisers can make it fly?
Instead
of Nasa? What do you think?
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Old October 3rd 11, 09:50 AM posted to sci.space.policy
jacob navia[_5_]
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Le 03/10/11 05:14, Marvin the Martian a écrit :

Obama's space policicy is no space program.

Exactly. But that policy is the same as Mr Bush (son)
that proposed shutting down the shuttle, and tried
to hide that with an unfounded "moon again" proposal.

And maybe you will remember Bush (father) proposal of getting to
Mars?

Also an unfounded proposal...

The bushies were great at starting "vision" projects that
folded because of lack of money.

Obama has just continued those policies. He proposes an
asteroid flight for 2025 now... Just as Bush proposed a
moon flight.

But both agree in shutting down everything NOW and proposing
somthing to be done long after they are gone.

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Old October 3rd 11, 12:12 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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On Oct 3, 4:59*am, jacob navia wrote:
Le 03/10/11 06:05, | a écrit :

Bush talked so what. Maybe the free enterprisers can make it fly?
Instead
of Nasa? What do you think?


"Free entreprise" that needs NASA money to do something...

All those "free entreprises" will disappear a few seconds
after NASA cuts their funding.


theres money to be made by space tourism..........

robotic recovery of moon rocks made into jewlery or other collectibles
could be profitable
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Old October 3rd 11, 12:19 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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i guess you all know near all republicans running for president want
to zero the manned space budget to cut spending and decrease the
deficit........

when the taxpayers are watching their income shrink, their homes value
drop, stock values shrinking, the end of medicare as we know it,
moving SS age to 75 for anyone not currently collecting benefits..

how does anyone see a increase in spending for space?
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Old October 3rd 11, 01:43 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Adam Przybyla[_2_]
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Marvin the Martian wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?
id=CNG.947744aa7f2a9543ab7c4b0e24b9136c.221&show_a rticle=1

It is a sad day because the Chinese are running a better space program
than we are.

The Chinese are also the biggest holder of US debt.

I would like to see the US have a sensible space program, but we're held
back by a funding process that encourages failure and our third rate
educational system.

It is sad and humorous that a hand full of captured NAZIS were able to
put men on the moon using mostly slide rules, adding machines and
drafting by hand where as today we can't do the same with super computers
and CADD.

The goals of our space program were also uninspiring. President Bush only
wanted to return to the Moon so we could get more rocks - trying to equal
the feat of the German-American space program. And Bush was audacious
enough to say "but do with after I leave office!"

.. it's time to find another NAZIS;-))) Regards
Adam Przybyla
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Old October 3rd 11, 02:03 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Oct 3, 5:43*am, Adam Przybyla wrote:
Marvin the Martian wrote:




http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?
id=CNG.947744aa7f2a9543ab7c4b0e24b9136c.221&show_a rticle=1


It is a sad day because the Chinese are running a better space program
than we are.


The Chinese are also the biggest holder of US debt.


I would like to see the US have a sensible space program, but we're held
back by a funding process that encourages failure and our third rate
educational system.


It is sad and humorous that a hand full of captured NAZIS were able to
put men on the moon using mostly slide rules, adding machines and
drafting by hand where as today we can't do the same with super computers
and CADD.


The goals of our space program were also uninspiring. President Bush only
wanted to return to the Moon so we could get more rocks - trying to equal
the feat of the German-American space program. And Bush was audacious
enough to say "but do with after I leave office!"


* * * * .. it's time to find another NAZIS;-))) Regards
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Adam Przybyla


Indeed, because without our original team of Zionist Nazis that gave
us the Saturn-V and supposedly got us walking on our physically dark
and naked moon (though without any objective proof of such), are badly
needed again.

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Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
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Old October 3rd 11, 03:06 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Val Kraut
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It is sad and humorous that a hand full of captured NAZIS were able to
put men on the moon using mostly slide rules, adding machines and
drafting by hand where as today we can't do the same with super computers
and CADD.



A handful of dedicated captured engineers lead the way - today we have more
public servants dedicated to agency politics and their career enhancements.

A large portion of the slide rule guys who made it happen were young
engineers from places like Brooklyn Tech and colleges with good strong
engineering ciriculums in the US. They grew up on the dreams of Captain
Video, Tom Corbett, Rod Brown, Buzz Corey and others on the TV at the time,
along with authors like Arthur C. Clark. A New York State High Diploma was
worth something then, and we didn't have Introductions in scientific texts
boasting that this revision is much more friendly to the student - all the
problems requiring calculus have been removed and more discussion questions
added in place of problems to be solved with math. We tell the kids in
school that technical subject are worthwhile - and then pull the rug out
time and time again on people in those fields. Reality is - making money is
the only goal today - and that's not in science.

And we've bored the tax payer to death with 35 years of shuttle deliveries
to LEO and a space station with broken toilets. Space exploration has been
replaced by Pork Barrel Legislation. Today we're lead by a sad group of
dysfunctional politicians who's only goal is to service special interest
groups.



Val Kraut




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Old October 3rd 11, 06:27 PM posted to sci.space.policy
ed kyle
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Default Obama's space policicy is no space program.

On Oct 2, 10:14*pm, Marvin the Martian wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?
id=CNG.947744aa7f2a9543ab7c4b0e24b9136c.221&show_a rticle=1

It is a sad day because the Chinese are running a better space program
than we are.


China's space program seems well thought out, but is it "better"?
China is planning to use its small space lab as a docking target for
an unmanned spacecraft, followed by two manned spacecraft. That's
terrific, but meanwhile the U.S., with its ISS partners, has completed
and is operating the largest orbiting thing ever assembled. It has
been manned continuously for years. The U.S. continues to operate
robot spacecraft orbiting multiple planets, roving one planet, heading
out of the solar system, etc. And, it is planning to build a new
spacecraft and massive new rocket, while also funding two new cargo
systems for ISS and one new ISS crew system!

The current U.S. problem is simply lack of a clearly defined human
space flight mission for the future. That uncertainty will eventually
be resolved.

- Ed Kyle
 




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