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Old February 19th 18, 07:29 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Chris L Peterson wrote in
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:30:08 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha wrote:

For home charging, it's no big deal. You don't need special
wiring. A 300 mile drive requires around 100 kWh. Do that
overnight and you don't need anything you don't already have.


For people who only *ever* drive locally, sure. For people who
occasionally want to take a road trip to more than 300 miles
away, it becomes untenable.


Not at all. If you regularly drive more than 300 miles, it
simply means that the current generation of EVs isn't
appropriate for your needs.


And no proposed EV will be, any time soon.

For you there remains conventional
gasoline engines, or hybrids systems.


Which a number of government jurisdictions are, right now, in the
process of banning.

And it is quite certain
that long range EV solutions will be developed over the next few
years.


They still have to be charged. You will pretend otherwise, because
you know there is no answer, even in theory, to the obstacles.

Amazing how we managed to adopt automobiles at all given that
when they were developed refueling was very difficult, with
almost no supportive infrastructure.

Building infrastructive is a practical obstacle. 3 MW cables
handled by the average driver is a theoretical obstacle. I realize
you're too ****ing stupid to know the difference, even when
explained using small words, but reality doesn't require you to
believe it it to bite you in the ass.

We've gone over this before, retard. You *know* I'm right. You
*know* your insane fantasies are full of ****. Do you *like* being
publicly humiliated? You must, to keep seeking it out time after
time.

--
Terry Austin

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  #22  
Old February 19th 18, 07:47 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default NASA's biggest worry right now: What if something goes wrong with the Webb telescope?

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:33:07 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:

Charge times (and charging at all) are an obstacle with no practical
solution, even theoretically.


You've said some silly things over time, but this may be the silliest.
  #23  
Old February 19th 18, 07:50 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default NASA's biggest worry right now: What if something goes wrong with the Webb telescope?

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:30:08 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:

For home charging, it's no big deal. You don't need special
wiring. A 300 mile drive requires around 100 kWh. Do that
overnight and you don't need anything you don't already have.


For people who only *ever* drive locally, sure. For people who
occasionally want to take a road trip to more than 300 miles away, it
becomes untenable.


Not at all. If you regularly drive more than 300 miles, it simply
means that the current generation of EVs isn't appropriate for your
needs. For you there remains conventional gasoline engines, or hybrids
systems. And it is quite certain that long range EV solutions will be
developed over the next few years.

Amazing how we managed to adopt automobiles at all given that when
they were developed refueling was very difficult, with almost no
supportive infrastructure.
  #24  
Old February 19th 18, 08:48 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Default NASA's biggest worry right now: What if something goes wrong with the Webb telescope?

Chris L Peterson wrote in
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:25:26 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha wrote:

Feel free to describe how over 600,000 businesses that currently
sell gasoline can replace their pumps with 3 MW charging
stations in our lifetime.


I don't need to.


And I don't need to take your seriously. And don't.

I can observe that there has never been a
market driven technology that didn't rapidly produce any needed
infrastructure.


When there's a handful of people using cars, you can build out the
infrastructure as the market grows.

When there's 150 million people using cars, you need to build it
out all at once.

This will cost trillions of dollars.

You will *never* address that. Because you *know* I'm right.

(And most certainly, the vast majority of uses have no need for
that much charging capacity most of the time.)

And the vast marjority will vote out of office a politician who
tells them they can *never* take long distance road trips again.

You will *never* address the difference between "most of the time"
and "never."

Because you *know* I'm right.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

  #25  
Old February 19th 18, 08:55 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Default NASA's biggest worry right now: What if something goes wrong with the Webb telescope?

Chris L Peterson wrote in
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:29:06 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha wrote:

Not at all. If you regularly drive more than 300 miles, it
simply means that the current generation of EVs isn't
appropriate for your needs.


And no proposed EV will be, any time soon.


We'll see.


To those who aren't morons, we already have. The laws of physics
aren't changing.

But it doesn't matter. Your driving habits place you
in a small minority of the driving market.


Only a small minority *ever* take long road trips? Really? I don't
know a single person who doesn't occasionally take a run up to
Vegas. How many hotels do you believe will install $50,000 charging
stations for _every_ parking stall in their structure? Vegas and
back is beyond the range of any EV available today on a single
charge.

You will *never* address that obstacle. Because you know I'm right.

For you there remains conventional
gasoline engines, or hybrids systems.


Which a number of government jurisdictions are, right now, in
the process of banning.


Gasoline only.


No. You are just plain full of ****.

But we knew that already.

I don't think anybody is proposing bans on
plug-in electric hybrids.

And it is quite certain
that long range EV solutions will be developed over the next
few years.


They still have to be charged.


Yes. No real problem with our current infrastructure. If you'd
start using numbers that are realistic you'd know that.


The US currently uses the equivalent of about one terrawatt-hour of
gasoline right now. That means an increase of between 30-50% in
transmission capacity (especially since the majority of charging
will be done during business hours, or the hours just after someone
gets home - peak hours). There is nowhere near that much extra
capacity right now. It will cost trillions of dollars to build the
generating stations and upgrade the grids to handle it.

You will *never* address this, because you *know* I am right.

When you are prepared to admit you are *wrong*, we can continue.
Until then, it is literally impossible to have a grown up
conversation with you. You are incapable of it, because you are too
childish to admit you're wrong, and too stupid to be right.

So until you grow up, there's nothing left but calling your stupid
until you get that you're stupid.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Old February 19th 18, 09:02 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default NASA's biggest worry right now: What if something goes wrong with the Webb telescope?

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:25:26 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:

Feel free to describe how over 600,000 businesses that currently sell
gasoline can replace their pumps with 3 MW charging stations in our
lifetime.


I don't need to. I can observe that there has never been a market
driven technology that didn't rapidly produce any needed
infrastructure.

(And most certainly, the vast majority of uses have no need for that
much charging capacity most of the time.)
  #27  
Old February 19th 18, 09:05 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default NASA's biggest worry right now: What if something goes wrong with the Webb telescope?

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:29:06 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:

Not at all. If you regularly drive more than 300 miles, it
simply means that the current generation of EVs isn't
appropriate for your needs.


And no proposed EV will be, any time soon.


We'll see. But it doesn't matter. Your driving habits place you in a
small minority of the driving market.

For you there remains conventional
gasoline engines, or hybrids systems.


Which a number of government jurisdictions are, right now, in the
process of banning.


Gasoline only. I don't think anybody is proposing bans on plug-in
electric hybrids.

And it is quite certain
that long range EV solutions will be developed over the next few
years.


They still have to be charged.


Yes. No real problem with our current infrastructure. If you'd start
using numbers that are realistic you'd know that.

  #28  
Old February 19th 18, 11:26 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:48:11 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:

And I don't need to take your seriously. And don't.


I don't care if you do or don't. The world is going to move on in
pretty much the way I've described, and a few old buggy whip champions
aren't going to change anything.
  #29  
Old February 19th 18, 11:28 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris L Peterson
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Default NASA's biggest worry right now: What if something goes wrong with the Webb telescope?

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:55:19 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
wrote:

Chris L Peterson wrote in
:

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:29:06 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha wrote:

Not at all. If you regularly drive more than 300 miles, it
simply means that the current generation of EVs isn't
appropriate for your needs.

And no proposed EV will be, any time soon.


We'll see.


To those who aren't morons, we already have. The laws of physics
aren't changing.

But it doesn't matter. Your driving habits place you
in a small minority of the driving market.


Only a small minority *ever* take long road trips?


I didn't say that. You can rent a different kind of car. You can own
two different kinds of cars. You can be part of a shared car pool
(that's going to be increasingly popular given the waste associated
with exclusive car ownership).
  #30  
Old February 19th 18, 11:43 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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Default NASA's biggest worry right now: What if something goes wrong with the Webb telescope?

Chris L Peterson wrote in
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:48:11 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha wrote:

And I don't need to take your seriously. And don't.


I don't care if you do or don't.


Then why do you post?

The world is going to move on
in pretty much the way I've described, and a few old buggy whip
champions aren't going to change anything.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid, son. You're gonna need it.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

 




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