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Old January 3rd 08, 01:24 AM posted to sci.geo.geology, sci.space.history, soc.culture.china
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On Jan 2, 7:41*am, "Scott Hedrick" wrote:
"CharlesLiu" wrote in message

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Look, China ain't the one invading other countries on false pretext.


I'm sure the Tibetans would agree with you.

China ain't the one who sent Bhuto back to Pakistan (GW Bush and Condi
Rice are responsible for that mess.)


Because Bhutto was a child who could not make decisions for herself, eh?


In Charles' one dimensional world everything is Bush's fault. He's a
known idiot on s.c.c.

Why don't you go back to looking for space rock and leave SCC alone?


Because the People's Non-Republic of China continues to abuse its citizen's
rights in ways that makes the Bush Administration look like rank amateurs.

Most folks here ain't even Chinese, given the fact it is an English
language group.


Most folks in the world aren't Chinese.


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Old January 3rd 08, 01:50 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,soc.culture.china
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A special day: CCTV-5 changes name to The Olympic Channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwHhRcRDAN0


From this video, doesn't this give you some idea what China is like
today?
It seems to me China has more freedom than America today!!




These show China in a different light.
You should get a job in the private sector.
Soon your CCP paycheck will disappear
when China goes the route of the Soviet
Union and break into a dozen new countries.

A dozen new countries that mostly try to become
like Taiwan. Democracy and freedom always win
in the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkf2u1Umzi4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LPksYo2WUQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF8KSN_Xdak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuZXvazdX3s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keuE5aRkppc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_gsIIQOBsY



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Old January 3rd 08, 02:08 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,soc.culture.china
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Perhaps Spielberg will wave to you from his plane while you are flipping
burgers.



China brought a billion Chinese back from misery & destitution. It has
regained the pride that Great Nation fully deserved; Pride lost in the
past Boxer Wars, Opium Wars & 2nd WW invasion



Hitler also brought the German people prosperity.
But it was short-lived, as dictatorships have this
horrible habit of starting wars and going down
in a blaze of misery.

A rigid control structure combined with a changing
evolving populace guarantees the two camps drift apart
over time, building internal stress, with conflct and
wars inevitable.

In a democracy the two camps evolve towards
each other over time, just the opposite.

The only question becomes when will the CCP fall.
Sooner is always better than later.

The Olympics provide the ideal conditions to put
an end to the CCP, as the entire country and world
will be connected together at once. These are the first
true internet games, where everything is online.

Something will happen during the Olympics, and
it won't be covered up or contained. We could
easily see a dozen Tianenman Square size
protests emerge at once.


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Old January 3rd 08, 10:38 AM posted to sci.geo.geology, sci.space.history, soc.culture.china
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On Jan 4, 2:28*am, "Jonathan" wrote:
wrote in message news:4fe746f4-f1d0-404a-ba8c-
What makes you think China is that unfree and that unconnected with
the rest of the world, and that people are so uninformed, at this
time?
It is fair to say that as long as you don't give the police trouble,
you are quite free to do what you
want to do here in China. *


Legitimacy only flows from the people.

This Olympics essentially legitimizes dictatorships in the
eyes of the international community.

That is absolutely unacceptable.



Who are you to dictate what the Chinese people should or should not
have?
Shove your "democracy" and "legitimacy" up your arse, and leave us
alone - we want no part of it!

It's one thing to be pragmatic and accept a benign
dictatorship while transitioning to democracy.
But to say dictatorships are legitimate?

These Olympics become political the minute
Beijing was awarded the games. We need
to make sure the winner of these games
is...freedom.

NOT repression.

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Old January 3rd 08, 12:59 PM posted to sci.geo.geology, sci.space.history, soc.culture.china
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On Jan 4, 9:28*am, "Jonathan" wrote:
wrote in message news:4fe746f4-f1d0-404a-ba8c-
What makes you think China is that unfree and that unconnected with
the rest of the world, and that people are so uninformed, at this
time?
It is fair to say that as long as you don't give the police trouble,
you are quite free to do what you
want to do here in China. *


Legitimacy only flows from the people.

This Olympics essentially legitimizes dictatorships in the
eyes of the international community.

That is absolutely unacceptable.

It's one thing to be pragmatic and accept a benign
dictatorship while transitioning to democracy.
But to say dictatorships are legitimate?

These Olympics become political the minute
Beijing was awarded the games. We need
to make sure the winner of these games
is...freedom.

NOT repression.


If the Chinese government were a dictatorship, the previous Fatty
Ziang would not have stepped down.



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Old January 4th 08, 12:06 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,soc.culture.china
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"Dragon" wrote in message
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Shove your "democracy" and "legitimacy" up your arse, and leave us
alone - we want no part of it!


And as long as that's the case Taiwan will remain separate.



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Old January 4th 08, 02:28 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,soc.culture.china
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wrote in message news:4fe746f4-f1d0-404a-ba8c-

What makes you think China is that unfree and that unconnected with
the rest of the world, and that people are so uninformed, at this
time?


It is fair to say that as long as you don't give the police trouble,
you are quite free to do what you
want to do here in China.



Legitimacy only flows from the people.

This Olympics essentially legitimizes dictatorships in the
eyes of the international community.

That is absolutely unacceptable.

It's one thing to be pragmatic and accept a benign
dictatorship while transitioning to democracy.
But to say dictatorships are legitimate?

These Olympics become political the minute
Beijing was awarded the games. We need
to make sure the winner of these games
is...freedom.

NOT repression.

s



s


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Old January 4th 08, 04:57 AM posted to sci.geo.geology, sci.space.history, soc.culture.china
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On Jan 3, 2:47*am, "Jonathan" wrote:
Stephen Spielberg, the celebrated director of numerous
Hollywood blockbusters, is the 'artistic director' for the
upcoming Olympics in Beijing this August. Not unlike
the roal played by the film maker Leni Riefenstahl
in the '36 Berlin Olympics.


Except Leni probably wasn't Jewish ....
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Old January 4th 08, 05:00 AM posted to sci.geo.geology, sci.space.history, soc.culture.china
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On Jan 3, 7:57*pm, Neil Gerace wrote:
On Jan 3, 2:47*am, "Jonathan" wrote:

Stephen Spielberg, the celebrated director of numerous
Hollywood blockbusters, is the 'artistic director' for the
upcoming Olympics in Beijing this August. Not unlike
the roal played by the film maker Leni Riefenstahl
in the '36 Berlin Olympics.


Except Leni probably wasn't Jewish ....


Nor is Spielberg Tibetan, or a Falun Gong member, or anything like
that...
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Old January 4th 08, 02:09 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,soc.culture.china
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"Jonathan" wrote in message
. ..
"Dragon" wrote in message
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Who are you to dictate what the Chinese people should or should not
have?

It's an inalienable right.

*That* says it all, doesn't it ?
J.

 




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