Nasa Plans Moonbase

Pat Flannery wrote:


Jorge R. Frank wrote:

And just where did you get that silly idea?



COMRADE! Space tourists to the Moon!

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The Russians may not have the bucks to spare, though...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/inde...a-moonbase.xml

Here's something they technically might do, though:

http://selenianboondocks.blogspot.co...oyuz-idea.html


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They should build the base in Clavius crater, in a nod to Arthur


Dale wrote:
I thought the plan was to exclude other nations, but this is what's being
reported today-

The New York Times

December 4, 2006
NASA Makes Plans for Permanent Moon Base
By WARREN E. LEARY

WASHINGTON, Dec. 4 NASA announced plans today for a permanent base on the Moon, to
be started soon after astronauts return there around 2020.

The agency's deputy administrator, Shana Dale, said the United States would develop
rockets and spacecraft to get people to the Moon and establish a rudimentary base.
There, other countries and commercial interests could expand the outpost to develop
scientific and other interests, she said.

Ms. Dale and other NASA officials said the agency envisioned a base at one of the
lunar poles, to take advantage of the near-constant sunlight for solar-power
generation, and giving it an "open architecture" design to which others can add the
capabilities they want.

Scott Horowitz, NASA's associate administrator for exploration, said crews of four
astronauts would make weeklong missions to the Moon starting around 2020. As more
equipment was set up, human stays would eventually grow to 180 days, permanent
staffing by 2024. By 2027, officials said, a pressurized roving vehicle on the
surface would take people on expeditions far from the base.

NASA gave no cost estimate for the program. Ms. Dale said all plans assumed that
the agency would continue operating from a fixed budget of about $17 billion a
year. As the shuttle and space station programs end, she said, that money would be
shifted to the exploration program, which is to operate on a pay-as-you-go basis.

In 2004, President Bush announced a new mission for NASA, a Vision for Space
Exploration that involves retiring the space shuttle fleet by 2010 and winding down
involvement in the International Space Station in order to return humans to the
Moon and, later, going on to Mars.

After consulting with space agencies representing 14 countries and experts in space
science and commerce, an agency team developed the baseline concept of putting a
base on the Moon from which other activities could develop.

"The door is open for international and commercials interests," Ms. Dale said.

Doug Cooke, the agency official who led the lunar study group, said the plan calls
for putting a lunar lander craft down near a polar crater and later adding solar
power generating units and living quarters to establish a base.

A site in the sunlight near the lunar South Pole, such as Shackleton Crater, would
still be near areas that are in total darkness, which may be the source of minerals
to mine. From this location, Mr. Cooke said, other nations could add scientific
laboratories or observatories or commercial concerns might want to process rocket
fuel and other materials from water and other materials that might be found in the
ground nearby.

"We're going for a base on the Moon," Mr. Horowitz said. "It's a very, very big
decision."

Mr. Horowitz said having a base did not mean every Moon landing by humans would go
there. The option remains open for some missions to go to equatorial regions, as
the Apollo project lander crafts did in the 1970s, or even to the backside of the
Moon.

Getting to the Moon and establishing a base will require a versatile,
general-purpose lander craft that could set down anywhere and be the core of an
outpost, he said.

"The nickname I use for the lander is, it's a pickup truck," Mr. Horowitz said.
"You can put whatever you want in the back. You can take it to wherever you want.
So you can deliver cargo, crew, do it robotically, do it with humans on board.
These are the types of things we're looking for in this system."

Ms. Dale said she and other NASA officials would spend part of next year visiting
potential partners in the lunar project, including the space agencies of Europe,
Russia and Japan, to see what they might want to contribute. Different aspects of a
lunar base might come from many individual or bilateral agreements between the
United States and other nations, she said, rather than following the model of the
space station of having many partners signing one agreement.

While there have been preliminary talks about cooperation in space with China, a
growing space power that along with the United States and Russia has the ability to
launch humans, it is too early to say if the two nations will agree to work
together on such human space flight projects as the lunar base, she said.

"Matthew Ota" wrote in message
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They should build the base in Clavius crater, in a nod to Arthur


And then a flight over to Tycho....

On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:10:07 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:


"Matthew Ota" wrote in message
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They should build the base in Clavius crater, in a nod to Arthur

And then a flight over to Tycho....

....And a base servicing a waste disposal area on the Lunar "Dark
Side", located in Plato. Oh, and a rootin' tootin' 70's Euro-styled
frontier miner's base, complete with disco review and homemade booze
located near Tranquility Base.

OM
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OM wrote:
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:10:07 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:


"Matthew Ota" wrote in message
oups.com...
They should build the base in Clavius crater, in a nod to Arthur

And then a flight over to Tycho....

...And a base servicing a waste disposal area on the Lunar "Dark
Side", located in Plato. Oh, and a rootin' tootin' 70's Euro-styled
frontier miner's base, complete with disco review and homemade booze
located near Tranquility Base.

OM
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Oooh oooh! Will the female astronauts were silver miniskirts and have
purple hair! Oh wait, by the time NASA builds the base, I'll be in my
70's...I'll have no use for a silver skirted hottie and besides that,
any astronaut working on the lunar base will have been born in the
ealry 1990's. That's my boys' age! Gee now the image of Lt. Ellis
seems wrong on so many levels....

Gene

In article ,
Dale wrote:
I thought the plan was to exclude other nations...

Yes and no. Even international partners who kept their promises on ISS
etc. are being excluded from everything that's firmly planned. They only
have a role in vague long-term concepts, sufficiently far in the future
that all today's NASA officials will be retired by that time, and thus
will not get stuck explaining to the partners why the US is running late
yet again. (One of the less happy features of international collaboration
is that it tends to make other countries' roles depend on the US doing its
part of the job.)

So far, this approach has gotten a chilly reception from potential
partners. If NASA wants to have international partners to help keep its
projects from getting canceled, it has to be willing to give them
significant parts of the job.
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