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Old February 9th 21, 02:19 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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How old are you, 12?

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
On 1/12/21 9:32 AM, wrote:
Considering the vast number of likely planets in the infinite universe, it is logical to assume that intelligent life would have evolved on many of these. Yet we are never visited by any aliens, which perhaps is not surprising considering the vast mind bogling distances, but also interestingly the universe is also eerily silent so far. Not the slightest peep of radio transmissions etc. Makes me wounder why. Other thoughts ?

1) Life didn't evolve. It was created by God.
2) It's not feasible that we are the only people in the universe.
3) If you look at Revelation, the New Jerusalem that descends out of
Heaven is a cube. A perfect cube 1,200 miles on a side with 12
foundations, which may be like 12 floors on a large office building,
meaning each floor is around 100 miles high. It has doors only on the
sides (east, north, west, south), not the top or bottom, and three on
each side. The Bible describes our world being harvested at the end of
the age (a crop of man, so to speak).

If you use what God has given us on this Earth like a guide, and you
recognize that we have fields and farmers and crops that are harvested,
and they all come together in central grain storage areas, then it may
be that all of the solar systems out there are like ours, growing up a
crop of man. And there would be other kinds also which are not for
those like us.

It's a possibility.

-----
But regardless, aliens do not exist. They would be demons that are
deceiving people. The Bible is replete with lying demons. It does not
mention aliens one time, and is not part of our experience here on this
Earth. It makes for good Sci-Fi, but is not real.

I urge you all to go to the Bible for yourself and study these things.
God has given us scientific, reasoning minds for a reason. They are not
to abandon God in our thinking and consideration of things. We are to
include God and actually let Him lead us by what He has revealed.

The rest is pure speculation.

And I caution each of you: There is an absolute enemy of God at work in
this world. Evil spirits. Invisible to our eyes, but you can see them
at work in people, by ideas, by tempting certain people to be evil and
do things, and it's not just like Hitler evil, but also those who would
divorce their spouse, be deceitful, cause harm to others, be belittling,
etc. All of these things are contrary to God and God's teachings. They
are the influence of the enemy against us in this world. They push
ideas and thoughts and feelings and emotions into our flesh. The only
way to combat them is by turning to God, asking Jesus to forgive your
sin, being born again of the spirit (John 3), and then having the new
spirit nature which is then able to recognize and understand spiritual
things, dividing their lying spirit guidance from God's true spirit
guidance, which is present in the Bible throughout, but cannot be
understood in that way without first being forgiven for sins and gaining
your own spirit to discern them.

It all sounds complex and unreasonable at first, but go through it in steps:

1) Do you have sin (by God's standards)?
2) You need to be forgiven. Jesus was given us for that reason.
3) Ask Him to forgive you.
4) Watch your life rewrite itself from the inside out.

That's the power of the spirit at work in your life. It's why new
Christians change so much. But the enemy regroups and comes back, which
is why you must follow-through and stay in church and stay close to the
word your new spirit can understand.

God has so much to reveal to us. We see only as through a glass darkly
presently. But He has promised to show us everything on the other side.

If any of you have questions or would like help, please email me.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

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Old February 9th 21, 06:24 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Rick C. Hodgin
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 05:19:53 -0800 (PST)
George Stone wrote:
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin
wrote:
On 1/12/21 9:32 AM, wrote:
Considering the vast number of likely planets in the infinite
universe, it is logical to assume that intelligent life would
have evolved on many of these. Yet we are never visited by any
aliens, which perhaps is not surprising considering the vast mind
bogling distances, but also interestingly the universe is also
eerily silent so far. Not the slightest peep of radio
transmissions etc. Makes me wounder why. Other thoughts ?

1) Life didn't evolve. It was created by God.
2) It's not feasible that we are the only people in the universe.
3) If you look at Revelation, the New Jerusalem that descends out
of Heaven is a cube. A perfect cube 1,200 miles on a side with 12
foundations, which may be like 12 floors on a large office
building, meaning each floor is around 100 miles high. It has doors
only on the sides (east, north, west, south), not the top or
bottom, and three on each side. The Bible describes our world being
harvested at the end of the age (a crop of man, so to speak).

If you use what God has given us on this Earth like a guide, and
you recognize that we have fields and farmers and crops that are
harvested, and they all come together in central grain storage
areas, then it may be that all of the solar systems out there are
like ours, growing up a crop of man. And there would be other kinds
also which are not for those like us.

It's a possibility.

-----
But regardless, aliens do not exist. They would be demons that are
deceiving people. The Bible is replete with lying demons. It does
not mention aliens one time, and is not part of our experience here
on this Earth. It makes for good Sci-Fi, but is not real.

I urge you all to go to the Bible for yourself and study these
things. God has given us scientific, reasoning minds for a reason.
They are not to abandon God in our thinking and consideration of
things. We are to include God and actually let Him lead us by what
He has revealed.

The rest is pure speculation.

And I caution each of you: There is an absolute enemy of God at
work in this world. Evil spirits. Invisible to our eyes, but you
can see them at work in people, by ideas, by tempting certain
people to be evil and do things, and it's not just like Hitler
evil, but also those who would divorce their spouse, be deceitful,
cause harm to others, be belittling, etc. All of these things are
contrary to God and God's teachings. They are the influence of the
enemy against us in this world. They push ideas and thoughts and
feelings and emotions into our flesh. The only way to combat them
is by turning to God, asking Jesus to forgive your sin, being born
again of the spirit (John 3), and then having the new spirit nature
which is then able to recognize and understand spiritual things,
dividing their lying spirit guidance from God's true spirit
guidance, which is present in the Bible throughout, but cannot be
understood in that way without first being forgiven for sins and
gaining your own spirit to discern them.

It all sounds complex and unreasonable at first, but go through it
in steps:

1) Do you have sin (by God's standards)?
2) You need to be forgiven. Jesus was given us for that reason.
3) Ask Him to forgive you.
4) Watch your life rewrite itself from the inside out.

That's the power of the spirit at work in your life. It's why new
Christians change so much. But the enemy regroups and comes back,
which is why you must follow-through and stay in church and stay
close to the word your new spirit can understand.

God has so much to reveal to us. We see only as through a glass
darkly presently. But He has promised to show us everything on the
other side.

If any of you have questions or would like help, please email me.


How old are you, 12?


51. I came to faith in Christ from atheism in 2004. I wasn't
expecting to, by the way. I wanted to know the truth though. I wanted
to know if what the Bible said was true, so I set my sights on reading
about it, learning about it, to come to a true understanding of what it
said at face value, so I could then discount it on authority, being
able to prove it was wrong.

When I set my sights on truly knowing the truth, and pressed in, Jesus
came to meet me where I was (in my pursuit of truth) and saved me.

It happened before I knew what happened, by the way. It took me weeks
before I could accept it. But the change is real. The new spirit
nature + flesh is different than the flesh-only. You can know things
and understand things differently as spirit + flesh than you can
flesh-only.

I don't write these things from a place of lunacy or trying to mock
this group of make fun of the people here. I've come to know there
really is a God, and that His name is Jesus. He really does save
people from sin, and when He does that new changed life is changed from
the inside. A complete re-wiring.

If you have sin ask Jesus to forgive you and see your life change. And
like you never knew was possible, because to the flesh-only it wasn't
possible. It requires the new spirit nature to experience it.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

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Old February 9th 21, 07:30 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 05:19:53 -0800 (PST), George Stone wrote:
How old are you, 12?
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
If you use what God


William Franklin Graham, Jr. was born to William Franklin & Morrow Coffey-
Graham, in downstairs bedroom of the white-clapboard house on their dairy
farm (now parking lot 4601 Park Road, 80W50:58,35N10:07) four miles south
of Charlotte North Carolina, Thursday November 7, 1918 3:30 PM EST(AA/BC).

"President Richard Nixon, one of Billy's confidants and golf
buddies, flew down to Charlotte just to dedicate the monument
in 1971 on "Billy Graham Day." The large bronze plaque features
a portrait of Billy's serious face and an extensive quote, signed
by Nixon, which calls him "truly a man of God" and "one of the
giants of our time. At the dedication, local papers reported that
the Secret Service kept away any young men with long hair."
--excerpt from https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/66645

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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 14:02:12 -0500, "Rick C. Hodgin" wrote:
Here's how this works


"filioli novissima hora est et sicut
young children, the last time to be. and just as

audistis quia antichristus venit
you are audient because antichrist will come,

nunc antichristi multi facti sunt
even now antichrists multitudinous in fact to be,

unde scimus quoniam novissima hora est"
whence we are sciential because the last time it is.

--1 John 2:18, editio Vulgata

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Old February 9th 21, 08:02 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 19:30:35 +0100 (CET)
D J@M wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 05:19:53 -0800 (PST), George Stone
wrote:
How old are you, 12?
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin
wrote:
If you use what God


William Franklin Graham, Jr. was born to William Franklin & Morrow
Coffey- Graham, in downstairs bedroom of the white-clapboard house on
their dairy farm (now parking lot 4601 Park Road, 80W50:58,35N10:07)
four miles south of Charlotte North Carolina, Thursday November 7,
1918 3:30 PM EST(AA/BC).

"President Richard Nixon, one of Billy's confidants and golf
buddies, flew down to Charlotte just to dedicate the monument
in 1971 on "Billy Graham Day." The large bronze plaque features
a portrait of Billy's serious face and an extensive quote, signed
by Nixon, which calls him "truly a man of God" and "one of the
giants of our time. At the dedication, local papers reported that
the Secret Service kept away any young men with long hair."


Here's how this works: Jesus really does save people. He really does
forgive sin. The enemy of God (Satan, all his demon imps that roam
around this world) know this. They can't change it, but what they can
do is make it seem undesirable.

So, Satan puts in a great deal of effort to making things related to
religion, which isn't really "religion" in the case of Christianity,
but rather it is the salvation that comes through Jesus Christ yielding
a new spirit nature that is separate from the flesh-only nature (which
is why born again Christians change so much right after being saved),
Satan puts in effort to make those things look bad. He entices people
in sin to do bad things in the name of religion, or the name of Jesus.

He entices people to make Jesus and religion in general seem foolish.

He does this because the power of Jesus is unstoppable for those who
have been saved. Death no longer has hold of them because their sin
was forgiven. Their true nature is manifested in part (the presence of
the Holy Spirit), something called an "earnest payment" of the coming
future full revelation once we leave this world and are no longer bound
by the physical limitations here.

I would ask you to go and speak to born again Christians. You'll know
them by their testimony and story. They'll tell you about their
struggles, about the battles they face against that enemy, but they'll
also tell you that it's real, and that salvation has come to them.

There are lots of videos on YouTube about being born again. But the
enemy is also there too. So say a prayer before you go seeking and ask
God Himself to guide you to the true stories.

For all who will be saved, God knows who you are and He will personally
lead you to these things which are part of your journey to salvation.

Peace.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

PS -- And if you have any questions about Christianity, feel free to
email me. I promise you I'll teach you accurately what the Bible says,
pointing you to scripture and verse so you can read for yourself, and
see for yourself with your own eyes and mind and thinking if those
things you inquire about are answered correctly in that way.

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Old February 9th 21, 09:25 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:00:53 +0100 (CET)
D J@M wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 14:02:12 -0500, "Rick C. Hodgin"
wrote:
Here's how this works


[snip Latin translation]


The original language of the New Testament was written in Greek. We
have great tools to look at the translations from their original words,
as was taken from the majority texts used in creating the KJV. 5,000
back then (early 1600s), and more than 30,000 now.

See biblehub.com and look at the Greek and Hebrew links.

--1 John 2:18, editio Vulgata


1 John 2:18 KJV
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have
heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there
many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last
time.

1 John 2:18 NIV
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have
heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many
antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the
last hour.

Original Greek: https://biblehub.com/text/1_john/2-18.htm
Lexicon: https://biblehub.com/lexicon/1_john/2-18.htm

--
Rick C. Hodgin

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Old February 9th 21, 09:42 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 15:25:05 -0500, "Rick C. Hodgin" wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:00:53 +0100 (CET)
[snip Latin translation]


"Dominus reget me et nihil mihi deerit
the Dominant one he will guide me, and nothing I will be lacking.

in loco pascuae ibi me conlocavit
into the locality of grazing pastures thereupon myself reposing

super aquam refectionis educavit me animam meam
above the water of refreshment to educate me, the anima of mine

convertit deduxit me super semitas iustitiae propter
converting, escorting me over the paths of justice on account of

nomen suum nam et si ambulavero in medio umbrae
the name of him. for also if I ambulate into the midst of the umbra

mortis non timebo mala quoniam tu
of mortality, not will I be timid of maladies, seeing that you

mecum es virga tua et baculus tuus ipsa
with me to be. the rod of yours and the staff of yours these in fact

me consolata sunt parasti in conspectu meo mensam
myself do console. to be preparing in view of me a table

adversus eos qui tribulant me inpinguasti in oleo caput
adverse to them which tribulate me, anointing in oil the head

meum et calix meus inebrians quam praeclarus est
of me, and the cup of mine is inebriating. how very clear to be,

et misericordia tua subsequitur me omnibus
and mercy yours follows closely after me the whole of all

diebus vitae meae et ut inhabitem in domo
the days of the life of me, and to inhabiting in the domicil of

Domini in longitudinem dierum"
the Dominant one into the longitude of daylight.

--psalmus David 22:1-6, editio Vulgata 405 anno Domini

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On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 15:25:05 -0500, "Rick C. Hodgin" wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:00:53 +0100 (CET)
[snip Latin translation]


PS the freeware On-Line Bible works off-line and includes numerous
bible versions. The Vulgate is my personal favorite translation of
the original texts. Jerome was very much fluent in those languages.

http://www.onlinebible.net/

"AKJV - American King James Version Bible.
AV - 1769 King James Authorized Version Bible.
AVRLE - 1769 King James Authorized Version Bible (KJV) Red Letter Edition.
APOCRYPHA - The 1769 Apocrypha by Oxford Press.
ASV - 1901 American Standard Version.
BBE - The Bible in Basic English 1965 Edition.
BHC - Biblical Hebrew Consonantal Text.
BHCM - Biblical Hebrew Consonantal Morphological Text.
BYZ - 1991 Byzantine Majority Greek Text.
BYZ Classic - 1991 Byzantine Majority Greek Text (Classic Strongs Numbers)
Darby - A literal translation of the Old Testament (1890) and the New Testament (1884) by John Nelson Darby.
Darby (French) - La Bible Darby - 1991 - VF.
Diaglot - 1865 Diaglot NT.
Douay - 1899 Douay Rheims American Version.
Douay APC - The 1899 Douay Rheims Apocrypha.
EMTV - English Majority Text Version of the Holy Bible by Paul W. Esposito, Stauros Ministries.
ERV - 1885 English Revised Version.
GWV - GOD'S WORD Translation.
IGNT - Interlinear Greek New Testament.
KJ21 - 21st Century King James Version.
LEB - The Lexham English Bible from Logos Bible Software.
Leeser - 1853 Leeser Old Testament.
Literal - A Literal Translation Of the Bible Keyed To Enhanced Strong's Numbers (Genesis - Josuha).
Living Oracles - Living Oracles Translation by George Campbell, James Macknight, and Philip Doddridge.
LSG - La Bible Louis Segond 1910 avec Strong.
LXX - Greek Septuagint Version.
LXXAPC - Greek Septuagint Apocrypha 270 BC.
NHEB - New Heart English Bible.
Noyes - 1869 Noyes Translation (Job - Re).
NTAPC - New Testament Apocrypha, William Hone 1820.
Pe****ta - 1905 Syriac Pe****ta New Testament.
RAPC - Revised Apocrypha.
Revised Webster - Revised 1833 Webster Bible. Edited by Larry Pierce.
1602PS (Spanish) - Valera 1602 Purificada con números de Strong
RV09 (Spanish) - 1909 Spanish RV Bible.
RV1865 (Spanish) - 1885 Spanish RV Bible.
RV2000 (Spanish) - 2000 Spanish Reina Valera.
RVA89 (Spanish) - 1989 Reina-Valera Actulizada (Spanish Bible).
SEV (Spanish) - Las 1569 Sagradas Escrituras Version Antigua. Revised in 1999.
Tischendorf - 1872 Tischendorf Greek NT.
Textus Receptus - 1550 Stephens Textus Receptus, 1894 Scrivener Textus Receptus.
TR Classic - 1550 Textus Receptus Text (Classic Strongs Numbers).
Vulgate - Jerome's 405 A.D., Latin Vulgate.
Vulgate Apocrypha - Jerome's 405 A.D., Latin Vulgate Apocrypha.
WEB - The World English Bible.
Webster - Webster Bible by Noah Webster LL.D. 1833.
Weymouth - Weymouth New Testament.
Westcott-Hort - 1881 Westcott-Hort Greek Text.
WH Classic - 1881 Westcott-Hort Greek Text (Classic Strongs Numbers).
Williams - 1936 Williams New Testament.
WNT - Wuest New Testament: An Expanded Translation.
Young - Young's Literal Translation of the Holy Bible by J.N. Young 1862."

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On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 04:12:31 +0100 (CET)
D J@M wrote:
PS the freeware On-Line Bible works off-line and includes numerous
bible versions. The Vulgate is my personal favorite translation of
the original texts. Jerome was very much fluent in those languages.

http://www.onlinebible.net/


What's your take on this idea. It's an alternate view of the
fundamental purpose of our solar system. It answers many questions
that are not currently answerable today, like why is Venus the way it
is, why is Mars the way it is, what the true purpose of the "gas
giants" is, why they have so many moons, etc.

-----
It will take some time to ponder and sink in as it's a comprehensive
idea. Think on it a while before responding.

The foundation of this premise came to me in 2009, and I've spent the
time since researching it. To date, I haven't found anything to break
it. But, I keep asking people for proof that what this theory states is
not correct. That proof can come Biblically, or through observed
scientific or space observations.

The Biblical narrative teaches us that in the beginning God created the
heavens and the Earth. He caused everything to come out of darkness,
and He describes the original Earth being created and the creation of
man and man's fall in Genesis 1-3.

We learn from that narrative that God created things that had seed
within themselves. The first apple tree was created, but that apple
tree had facilities and mechanisms within itself to produce the second
generation of apple tree. And it's the same for all life. God initially
created everything, but then He didn't continue creating, but used the
system in motion He had created to continue on.

This theory states that God did the same thing with our solar system.
The solar system doesn't give birth to additional solar systems, but
instead is a manufacturing system created by God in the beginning to
produce ongoing Earths.

Each Earth is created for a 7,000 year timeline, which is the Biblical
timeline from creation through the final judgment after the end of the
upcoming millennial reign of Christ. In those 7,000 years, things
happen that are directed by God. We go through phases of our existence,
through trials and all that we go through, and all of it is part of the
7,000 year narrative God has created.

We read in the Bible that John saw a new Heaven and a new Earth for the
first Heaven and the first Earth had passed away, and there was no more
sea on the new Heaven and new Earth. We read by Peter that everything
here will be consumed, that the Earth itself will have its elements
melted with fervent heat so that nothing here will remain.

And now, thanks to space travel and probes in our solar system, we have
been able to learn things about our solar system that were not possible
to know previously. For example, we have sent probes to Venus and we
see a 860+ degree Fahrenheit surface temperature, with an atmosphere of
acid that is under so much pressure it would be the equivalent of being
nearly one kilometer under the ocean.

We learn that there's an asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. We
learn about the huge outer four planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and
Neptune) and their huge number of moons and ring systems. We learn
about the incredible diversity of the moons and their form and
function. Europa is a water moon. Io churns out chemicals like a
factory. Titan has a surface we now know varies. Other moons and
planets have lakes of various chemicals. Inhospitable temperatures and
elements to our life, but similar to our life in their own frame of
reference. They have snow, for example, just not water snow. They have
wind and rocky shores and there's air pressure and gravity, etc. All
variants of forms that exist similar to what we know, just on their
chemical, temperature, and pressure scales.

Now, when look to our own planet we begin to learn things about us as
well. We can see that there are parts of the Earth's continents that
clearly fit together. We've all learned about Pangaea in our youthful
science classes. It shows this large formation of land all aggregated
with the ocean being everywhere else.

It was back in 2009 when I was looking at the NOAA age of the sea floor
maps that the thought occurred to me: The Earth used to be smaller.
It's grown from something about the size of Mars to what it is now, and
this is evident by the expansion patterns seen on the age of the sea
floor maps published by NOAA. If you look at the land area of the
Earth, accounting for the portions which are underwater as well, yet
clearly differentiated from the deep parts of the ocean, you'll find
that the land surface area is within 1% of the surface area of Mars. If
you add up the continents square miles, it's within that 1% of the size
of Mars.

Now, we look at Venus. It's nearly Earth size, but not quite. We see
its hellish atmosphere and the thought occurred to me: Venus is going
through recycling. It is in the near final stages of recycling all of
the materials on the surface. The Russian probes, and other probes,
have sent radar pulses through the thick atmosphere and have discovered
that there is metal that's melting in the 860+ degree heat, and it's
rising in the atmosphere in liquid form like rain, and it's coming down
on the mountain tops like metal snow. The whole surface of Venus has
these pancake like lava flows here and there. It literally looks like
someone took pancake batter and splatted it on the surface. And
scientists find that there isn't a lot of cratering on the surface, and
they believe the surface of Venus is resurfaced every now and then.

And then we look to Mercury (like Regula-1 from Star Trek II), it is
essentially a large rock in space, but if you look to its size and gain
meaning from its relative proportions to that of Mars, Earth, Venus,
and Mercury, you can almost see that it's the size a core quantity of
rock would be were there a purposeful design to Mars, Earth, Venus, and
Mercury, which was designed to support an expanding Earth.

So, when we look at our solar system from this alternate point of view,
stemming from what we can see here on our own Earth, namely that "the
Earth used to be smaller," and we accept on faith that the Bible is
truly God's word given to us, and that the 7,000 year timeframe it
conveys is reality, and that Adam and Eve were formed and put here, and
that all it records of history is real (including the flood, and the
types of peoples that have existed at various times), then we begin to
realize that what we've been taught by our mainstream science is not
correct. And that the truth affirms the Bible, provides us with actual
proof of God's existence by His design and what He's conveyed to us
through the Bible which aligns with it, and that we are at the dawning
of a new understanding that will fundamentally change everything about
our existence in this universe.

Our solar system is a manufacturing assembly line. It is designed to
create Earths. It is like the apple tree producing the next generation
of apple trees.

In the beginning, God created the first Earth as is indicated. He
created the universe and all the stars and everything. But He also
created that same system in motion He describes creating in Genesis 1,
with each thing have seed within itself to produce the subsequent
generations. He did the same thing with our solar system. The first
Earth went through what it went through, and then it moved into the
place of Venus for recycling. The Mars that existed then moved forward
to become the next Earth and was prepared for its 7,000 year cycle. And
the gas giants that we've been taught are huge gas balls effectively
with liquid atmospheric internals and possibly a core of some kind of
metallic hydrogen or other metal, are not really gas giants. They are
huge hollow structures used to produce Earths by an assembly line
manufacturing process.

It begins in Neptune, goes into Uranus, goes into Saturn, and finally
goes into Jupiter. It starts as a frame with a cornerstone, and adds a
surface covering, and then internal structures are created, and finally
in Jupiter massive heat is used to lay down rock layers. What emerges
is essentially a Mars, but that Mars has to go through additional
processing which takes about 7,000 years as these cycles echo
throughout the entire solar system. Each station that's used to create
something goes through the same cycle of 7,000 years of processing. And
to go through the entire manufacturing process takes nearly a million
years given the number of cycles and stations there would be based on
the size of the gas giants and the hints they give us by their
atmosphere.

You can visualize all of this he
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGdVtSh4wRs And you can read about this
and see the NOAA age of the sea floor maps he http://www.3alive.org

There are video links in that YouTube video to my previous videos
outlining the work I've done on this project. And you can download the
source code for that simulation at my GitHub account:
https://github.com/RickCHodgin/Earth..._System_OpenGL

The videos show how the process works in general. It's not a true
picture of the simulation, but you can see things being built up around
the solar system at each stage.

Keys to use for navigation in the simulation software if you want to
download it (there is also a binary-only executable available at the
3alive.org website link above).
Y - Zoom in on Mercury
V - Zoom in on Venus
E - Zoom in on Earth
M - Zoom in on Mars
J - Zoom in on Jupiter
S - Zoom in on Saturn
U - Zoom in on Uranus
N - Zoom in on Neptune
A - Zoom out to all
Use the / and * keys, and the + and - keys, to change the aspect ratio.
Insert - Toggle full-screen / windowed.
1, 2, 3 - Change the perspective and ortho modes, and show it in 3D
motion for better visualization. 4,5 - Show the Earth View Edit Mode or
the Solar System Assembly Line modes. And there are other keys which
show up on the screen to enable and disable things.

I am looking for real scientific or Biblical proof which would disprove
this theory. I've gone through every scenario in the Bible I can
consider that would say it wouldn't work, but there is for every thing
a point of view in which it does work. And I refer back to one special
passage that gives additional meaning to this theory, which has always
stood out so significantly to me because it's the only recorded
instance of Jesus having to perform a miracle twice, and I don't
believe that was by accident. What Jesus was showing us by the
side-effects of that miracle being required twice was a glimpse into
this nature, but more on that later. The passage is Matthew 8:24, "I
see men as trees walking."

Please report your thoughts. I look forward to hearing them. Thank you,
and may God bless you in understanding, knowledge, wisdom, and
discernment. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

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On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 00:14:08 -0500, "Rick C. Hodgin" wrote:
The Biblical narrative


Here's Genesis 1:1-31;2:1-4 (subheads added for clarity)

SOLIS

"in principio creavit Deus caelum et terram terra
in the beginning created Zeus the heaven and the earth. earth

autem erat inanis et vacua et tenebrae super
however to be inane and vacuous, and tenebrosity was upon

faciem abyssi et spiritus Dei ferebatur
the face of the abyss. and the spirit of the Deities did approach

super aquas dixitque Deus fiat lux et facta
upon the waters. and said Zeus Let there be light, and was made

est lux et vidit Deus lucem quod esset bona et
to be light. and did see Zeus the light, that it was good. and

divisit lucem ac tenebras appellavitque
divided He the light from the tenebrosity, and appellated Him

lucem diem et tenebras noctem factumque
the light Day, and the tenebrosity Night. and this was

est vespere et mane dies unus"
to be evening and morning, day one.

LVNE

"dixit quoque Deus fiat firmamentum in medio
and said likewise Zeus Let there be a firmament in the midst

aquarum et dividat aquas ab aquis
of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

et fecit Deus firmamentum divisitque aquas quae
and made Zeus the firmament, and divided He the waters which

erant sub firmamento ab his quae erant super
to be below the firmament from those which to be above

firmamentum et factum est ita vocavitque
the firmament, and it was made to be thus. and called

Deus firmamentum caelum et factum est vespere et
Zeus the firmament Heaven. and it was to be evening and

mane dies secundus"
morning, day second.

MARTIS

"dixit vero Deus congregentur aquae quae
and said in verity Zeus Let them be congregated the waters which

sub caelo sunt in locum unum et appareat
are under the heaven, to be in locality one, and let to appear

arida factumque est ita et vocavit Deus aridam
aridity, and this was to be thus. and called Zeus the arid land

terram congregationesque aquarum appellavit maria
Earth, and the congregation of the waters appellated Him Seas.

et vidit Deus quod esset bonum et ait
and did see Zeus that it was a good thing. and He said

germinet terra herbam virentem et facientem
Let be germinating the earth the herb virescent and to be making

semen et lignum pomiferum faciens fructum iuxta genus
seed, and the tree pomiferous making fruit near to the genus

suum cuius semen in semet ipso sit
of it, whose seed in itself of his very own kind is to be,

super terram et factum est ita et protulit
upon the earth, and it was to be thus. and brought forth

terra herbam virentem et adferentem semen iuxta
the earth the herb virescent and producing seed near to

genus suum lignumque faciens fructum et habens
the genus of it, and the tree making fruit and having

unumquodque sementem secundum speciem suam et vidit
each one sowing after the species of it. and did see

Deus quod esset bonum factumque est vespere et
Zeus that it was a good thing. and this was to be evening and

mane diestertius"
morning, day third.

MERCVRII

"dixit autem Deus fiant luminaria in firmamento
and said moreover Zeus Let there be luminaries in the firmament

caeli ut dividant diem ac noctem et
of the heavens, in order to divide the day from the night. and

sint in signa et tempora et dies et
they shall be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and

annos ut luceant in firmamento caeli
for years, in order that the lights in the firmament of the heavens

et inluminent terram et factum est ita fecitque
also to illuminate the earth, and it was to be thus. and made

Deus duo magna luminaria luminare maius ut
Zeus two great luminaries, the luminary greater in order that

praeesset diei et luminare minus ut
to be ruling the day, and the luminary lesser in order that

praeesset nocti et stellas et posuit
to be ruling the night. also the Stars, and from their position

eas in firmamento caeli ut lucerent
to be advancing on the firmament of the heavens, in order to shine

super terram et praeessent diei ac nocti
over the earth, and to be ruling the day and also the night,

et dividerent lucem ac tenebras et vidit
and to be dividing the light from the tenebrosity. and did see

Deus quod esset bonum et factum est vespere et
Zeus that it was a good thing. and it was to be evening and

mane dies quartus"
morning, day fourth.

IOVIS

"dixit etiam Deus producant aquae
and said furthermore Zeus Let be producing the waters

reptile animae viventis et volatile
the creeping creature breathing with life, and those volant

super terram sub firmamento caeli creavitque
above the earth under the firmament of the heavens. and created

Deus cete grandia et omnem animam viventem
Zeus the whale great, and every creature breathing with life

atque motabilem quam produxerant aquae
and indeed able to be mobile, which have produced the waters

in species suas et omne volatile secundum
in the species of them, and all that are volant after

genus suum et vidit Deus quod esset bonum
the genus of them. and did see Zeus that it was a good thing.

benedixitque eis dicens crescite et
and He gave benediction to them, saying Be crescive, and

multiplicamini et replete aquas maris
multiply, and become replete in the waters of the seas,

avesque multiplicentur super terram et factum
and let the avian multiply above the earth. and it was

est vespere et mane dies quintus"
to be evening and morning, day fifth.

VENERIS

"dixit quoque Deus producat terra animam
and said also Zeus Let be producing the earth the breathing

viventem in genere suo iumenta et
with life in the genera of them beasts of burden, and

reptilia et bestias terrae secundum
the creeping creatures, and the animals of the earth after

species suas factumque est ita et fecit Deus
the species of them, and this was to be thus. and made Zeus

bestias terrae iuxta species suas et
the beasts of the earth near to the species of them, and

iumenta et omne reptile terrae
the beasts of burden, and every creeping creature on earth

in genere suo et vidit Deus quod esset bonum
in the genera of them. and did see Zeus that it was a good thing.

et ait faciamus hominem ad imaginem et
and He said Let us make man after the image and

similitudinem nostram et praesit piscibus
similitude ours, and let them be presiding over the fish

maris et volatilibus caeli et
of the sea, and over the volant creatures of the air, and

bestiis universaeque terrae omnique
over the animals and universally the earth, and every

reptili quod movetur in terra
creeping creature that moves upon the earth.

et creavit Deus hominem ad imaginem suam ad
and created Zeus man after the image of Him, after

imaginem Dei creavit illum masculum et feminam
the image of the Deities created He him, masculine and feminine

creavit eos benedixitque illis Deus et ait
created He them. and gave benediction to him Zeus, and said

crescite et multiplicamini et replete
Be crescive, and multiply, and become replete

terram et subicite eam et dominamini
upon the earth, and subject her, and have dominion over

piscibus maris et volatilibus caeli et
the fish of the sea, and over the volant of the air, and

universis animantibus quae moventur super terram
universally over animate life which moves upon the earth.

dixitque Deus ecce dedi vobis omnem herbam
and said Zeus Behold, I have given to you every herb

adferentem semen super terram et universa ligna
producing seed upon the earth, and universally the tree

quae habent in semet ipsis sementem
which is having in itself his very own kind for sowing

generis sui ut sint vobis in escam
the genera of it, in order that it shall be to you for food.

et cunctis animantibus terrae omnique
even to the entirety of animate life on earth, to every

volucri caeli et universis quae
volant creature of the air, and universally to all which

moventur in terra et in quibus est anima vivens
moves upon the earth and in which to be the breath of life,

ut habeant ad
I have given this food in order that to be having toward

vescendum et factum est ita viditque Deus cuncta
to eat. and it was to be thus. and did see Zeus the entirety

quae fecit et erant valde bona et factum est
of which He had made, and it was very good. and it was to be

vespere et mane dies sextus"
evening and morning, day six.

SATVRNI

"igitur perfecti sunt caeli et terra et
therefore completed they were the heavens and the earth, and

omnis ornatus eorum conplevitque Deus die
all that was ornate of them. and completed Zeus by the day

septimo opus suum quod fecerat et requievit
seventh the work of Him which He had made. and He rested

die septimo ab universo opere quod
on the day seventh from His universal work which

patrarat et benedixit diei septimo
He had accomplished, and gave benediction for the day seventh

et sanctificavit illum quia in ipso cessaverat
and sanctified it, because in this very day He rested

ab omni opere suo quod creavit Deus ut
from all the work of His which created Zeus in order that

faceret istae generationes caeli et
to be making. these are the generations of the heavens and

terrae quando creatae sunt in die quo
of the earth when created they were in the day that

fecit Dominus Deus caelum et terram"
made the Dominant one Zeus the heaven and the earth.

 




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