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Old March 12th 11, 04:04 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,alt.computer.security
Robert Clark
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Apprarently someone changed my password for my Google Groups account.
So I changed it. But then it got breached again, so I had to change it
again.
Anyone else have this problem?
I only use this account to post to Usenet so I'm not too terribly
concerned about that aspect of it. But it is curious that when I was
selecting my password the indicator to show the degree of security of
the passward listed it as "strong", which I presume means hard to
crack.
Are there automated programs out there used just to crack passwords
on Google Groups? What would be the purpose of those password
programs? I haven't signed up for a Gmail account. Perhaps such
programs would be useful because your Google Groups account can be
used as your Gmail account? Or can be used to access your Gmail
account?


Bob Clark
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Old March 12th 11, 04:15 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,alt.computer.security
Eric Gisse
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On Mar 12, 7:04*am, Robert Clark wrote:
*Apprarently someone changed my password for my Google Groups account.
So I changed it. But then it got breached again, so I had to change it
again.


Your personal computer has been breached. Don't blame Google.

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Old March 12th 11, 04:23 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,alt.computer.security
dlzc
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Dear Robert Clark:

On Mar 12, 8:04*am, Robert Clark wrote:
*Apprarently someone changed my password for my
Google Groups account.
So I changed it. But then it got breached again, so I
had to change it again.
*Anyone else have this problem?


I've not. They may have a keylogger installed on your machine, or a
packet sniffer watching traffic from your IP (much more difficult).
Or, you just forget to log out of your account on a machine, after
each session. And they walk up and mess with you.

*I only use this account to post to Usenet so I'm not
too terribly concerned about that aspect of it. But it
is curious that when I was selecting my password the
indicator to show the degree of security of the
passward listed it as "strong", which I presume means
hard to crack.


Doesn't help if you don't remember to log out of your GG account with
each session

* Are there automated programs out there used just
to crack passwords on Google Groups? What would
be the purpose of those password programs?


I can imagine lots of other ways that don't require a cracker.

David A. Smith
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Old March 12th 11, 04:42 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,alt.computer.security
Robert Clark
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On Mar 12, 10:23*am, dlzc wrote:


Doesn't help if you don't remember to log out of your GG account with
each session


That wouldn't happen since I only get on to this account using the
computer in my office at work or the one at home.
But how could you do a check for a keylogger that might have been
installed by a malware program?


Bob Clark
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Old March 12th 11, 04:44 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,alt.computer.security
Sam Wormley[_2_]
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On 3/12/11 9:04 AM, Robert Clark wrote:
Apprarently someone changed my password for my Google Groups account.
So I changed it. But then it got breached again, so I had to change it
again.


Here are some tips: http://edu-observatory.org/olli/hcs/index.html
http://edu-observatory.org/olli/hcs/Week1.html
http://edu-observatory.org/olli/hcs/Week2.html


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Old March 12th 11, 05:21 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,alt.computer.security
Robert Clark
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On Mar 12, 10:44*am, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 3/12/11 9:04 AM, Robert Clark wrote:

* Apprarently someone changed my password for my Google Groups account.

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Old March 12th 11, 06:06 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,alt.computer.security
dlzc
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Dear Robert Clark:

On Mar 12, 8:42*am, Robert Clark wrote:
On Mar 12, 10:23*am, dlzc wrote:



Doesn't help if you don't remember to log out of your
GG account with each session


*That wouldn't happen since I only get on to this account
using the computer in my office at work or the one at home.


And your co-workers wouldn't like to trigger your paranoid streak, by
messing with you? Before you get out of Google.Groups, Sign Out.
They made it a bit more difficult to find the control, but it has to
be done.

*But how could you do a check for a keylogger that
might have been installed by a malware program?


I use a virus scanner, Malwarebytes, and Spybot S&D.

David A. Smith
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Old March 13th 11, 01:48 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics,alt.computer.security
Ben[_2_]
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I use a scanner, Malewarebytes, Spybot S&D, and *Sophos anti
rootkit.* Haven't had much trouble with that battery.
 




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