The hunt for alien life heats up in 2021

How do you know we haven't been visited? How do you know they're not here
now?


Obviously, if they were here, they'd be SOME evidence of this. There isn't, so they're not.

And of course, there is absolutely no way either aliens or man could ever traverse the vast mind bogling distances. Even at near light speed, which will practically never happen in any case, travel times would still be excessive.

What part of Distance = Speed x Time don't you understand ? !

"Whisper" wrote in message
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On 8/01/2021 9:32 am, Andrew W wrote:
casag... wrote in message ...

Also keep in mind, something worth repeating. Intelligent space faring
species likely abound throughout the universe. If interstellar travel
were possible, then we'd be often visited by aliens. We are clearly not
so it isn't possible.


How do you know we haven't been visited? How do you know they're not here
now?



Because he's a logical thinker.


Logic is blind to fact and experience.

casag... wrote in message ...



How do you know we haven't been visited? How do you know they're not
here now?



Because he's a logical thinker.


Obviously, if they were here, they'd be SOME evidence of this. There isn't,
so they're not.


There is plenty of evidence (recovered craft and tech) but it is all kept in
government and military facilities.


And of course, there is absolutely no way either aliens or man could ever
traverse the vast mind bogling distances. Even at near light speed, which
will practically never happen in any case, travel times would still be
excessive.


That's only if ETs use primitive human technologies and concepts. Why would
they do that?


What part of Distance = Speed x Time don't you understand ? !


As has been said, that is only a limitation in our 3rd dimension. I trust
you've heard of quantum concepts such as 'quantum teleportation', 'quantum
entanglement' and 'action at a distance'? There is no delay even over great
distances. What does that tell you?

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On 10/01/2021 2:36 am, wrote:


How do you know we haven't been visited? How do you know they're not
here now?



Because he's a logical thinker.


Obviously, if they were here, they'd be SOME evidence of this. There isn't, so they're not.

And of course, there is absolutely no way either aliens or man could ever traverse the vast mind bogling distances. Even at near light speed, which will practically never happen in any case, travel times would still be excessive.

What part of Distance = Speed x Time don't you understand ? !




Absolutely spot on. Keep up the good work.

On 10/01/2021 9:18 am, Andrew W wrote:
"Whisper"Â* wrote in message
...

On 8/01/2021 9:32 am, Andrew W wrote:
casag... wrote in message ...

Also keep in mind, something worth repeating. Intelligent space
faring species likely abound throughout the universe. If
interstellar travel were possible, then we'd be often visited by
aliens. We are clearly not so it isn't possible.


How do you know we haven't been visited? How do you know they're not
here now?



Because he's a logical thinker.


Logic is blind to fact and experience.



You need to look up the definition of 'logic'.

On 10/01/2021 9:29 am, Andrew W wrote:
casag... wrote in message ...



How do you know we haven't been visited? How do you know they're not
here now?



Because he's a logical thinker.


Obviously, if they were here, they'd be SOME evidence of this. There
isn't, so they're not.


There is plenty of evidence (recovered craft and tech) but it is all
kept in government and military facilities.




It would be impossible for something like this to be kept secret for so
long. There would be too many people involved & no way would they all
remain silent.




And of course, there is absolutely no way either aliens or man could
ever traverse the vast mind bogling distances. Even at near light
speed, which will practically never happen in any case, travel times
would still be excessive.


That's only if ETs use primitive human technologies and concepts. Why
would they do that?


You need to explain how something like interstellar travel including
living creatures is possible. There is no 'technology' that could
facilitate this.




What part of Distance = Speed x Time don't you understand ? !


As has been said, that is only a limitation in our 3rd dimension. I
trust you've heard of quantum concepts such as 'quantum teleportation',
'quantum entanglement' and 'action at a distance'? There is no delay
even over great distances. What does that tell you?



You're talking nonsense. I can make up all kinds of wild theories too.
Doesn't make it real.

Whisper wrote:
On 10/01/2021 9:29 am, Andrew W wrote:
casag... wrote in message ...
How do you know we haven't been visited? How do you know they're not
here now?
Because he's a logical thinker.
Obviously, if they were here, they'd be SOME evidence of this. There
isn't, so they're not.
There is plenty of evidence (recovered craft and tech) but it is all
kept in government and military facilities.
It would be impossible for something like this to be kept secret for so
long. There would be too many people involved & no way would they all
remain silent.

It is only secret to you, so there goes your "deduction".

Even the US military and CIA now publicly ack *something* is going on.
Cleverly they picked the height of a global pandemic to release
the video footage.

Learn to use google to find the defense dept page that shows
GOFAST, GIMBAL, and FLIR where "objects with no wings evade
fighter jets, pulling 40g turns, moving at 2 km/s at sea level".

Fish around enough you can get an official Navy report on the tictac
incident 2004 describing the background for GOFAST (the other 2 vids
are for incidents in ~2014).

wrote:
How do you know we haven't been visited? How do you know they're not
here now?
Because he's a logical thinker.
Obviously, if they were here, they'd be SOME evidence of this. There isn't, so they're not.

You must be an expert in logic because you use logical fallacies like
you invented them!

--
Argument from ignorance
Argument from ignorance also known as appeal to ignorance is a fallacy in
informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet
been proven ...
-- wiki

Argument by assertion
Argument by assertion is the logical fallacy where someone tries to argue a
point by merely asserting that it is true, regardless of contradiction.
-- rationalwiki

On 10/01/2021 9:48 pm, R Kym Horsell wrote:
wrote:
How do you know we haven't been visited? How do you know they're not
here now?
Because he's a logical thinker.
Obviously, if they were here, they'd be SOME evidence of this. There isn't, so they're not.

You must be an expert in logic because you use logical fallacies like
you invented them!

--
Argument from ignorance
Argument from ignorance also known as appeal to ignorance is a fallacy in
informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet
been proven ...
-- wiki

Argument by assertion
Argument by assertion is the logical fallacy where someone tries to argue a
point by merely asserting that it is true, regardless of contradiction.
-- rationalwiki



'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence'

Carl Sagan