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Old August 27th 14, 12:19 AM posted to alt.astronomy
Double-A[_4_]
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Default Venus has no water.

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:04:00 AM UTC-7, Hägar wrote:
"Dean Markley" wrote in message

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On Monday, August 25, 2014 5:16:26 PM UTC-4, Double-A wrote:

On Monday, August 25, 2014 12:21:03 PM UTC-7, Brad Guth wrote:




snipped to reduce my carbon footprint, heh



It is said that Venus probably has an ocean of liquid carbon dioxide.


So the old idea of Venus as an ocean planet may be true after all.


The air in the upper atmosphere is said to be cool at comfortable


Earth levels. Also it might even be breathable because of the fact


that oxygen and nitrogen rise to the top!








Double-A




Who is this "it"? There is no ocean of liquid CO2 on Venus. The phase

diagrams for CO2 at Venusian temps and pressures clearly eliminate that

possibility. And then there are accurate radar observations form Earth

and orbiting probes that clearly show a hot, dry, solid surface.





*** You really should stop citing those irrefutable facts ... it just

confuses this collection of make-believe science hacks and nonsense

babbling Bonobos. Let them have their Venusian lakes ... in fact, you

should tell them that the fishing there is excellent; (a little green

guy told you so) ...



I'll bet you see a lot of little green guys around that sewer lagoon, severely stunted from living in that toxic environment.

Double-A

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Old August 27th 14, 12:39 AM posted to alt.astronomy
Double-A[_4_]
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Default Venus has no water.

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:01:02 AM UTC-7, Dean Markley wrote:
On Monday, August 25, 2014 5:16:26 PM UTC-4, Double-A wrote:

On Monday, August 25, 2014 12:21:03 PM UTC-7, Brad Guth wrote:




On Monday, August 25, 2014 6:53:08 AM UTC-7, Hägar wrote:








"Brad Guth" wrote in message
















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On Monday, August 25, 2014 5:13:17 AM UTC-7, Dean Markley wrote:
















On Friday, August 22, 2014 11:57:14 PM UTC-4, Brad Guth wrote:
































Actually, Venus has teratonnes of water, but never a drop for the
















always dumbfounded likes of yourself.
































And where is this water?
































Mostly suspended within those clouds, although being continually
















resupplied via geothermal vents is a perfectly natural process, exactly
















as here on Earth and of most every other planet, planetoid and moon..
































Are you suggesting that the planet Venus is cooler and a lot more inert
















than Earth inside?
































































*** The water content in the atmosphere of Venus is 20 ppm; if you're
















too stupid to digest that, it means 20 parts per million ... take that
















in, Goth ... 20 parts per ****ing MILLION ...
















It would take three cubic miles to mix a scotch and water, you nonsense
















yammering baboon.
























http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
















Dream on, you clueless wonder ...
















Except those are not actually white fluffy clouds of inert crystal dry dust.
















We've been told over and over how terribly dense and acidic them clouds and their atmosphere supposedly are. If they were of only 20 ppm water, they'd be of nothing but perfectly harmless inert dust clouds.
















In other words, mainstream science isn't always interpreted for the benefit of others, just like you, GW Bush and Dick Cheney got to interpret a firetruck at better than .1 m resolution, as a WMD. Do you need more analogy examples?












It is said that Venus probably has an ocean of liquid carbon dioxide. So the old idea of Venus as an ocean planet may be true after all. The air in the upper atmosphere is said to be cool at comfortable Earth levels. Also it might even be breathable because of the fact that oxygen and nitrogen rise to the top!








Double-A




Who is this "it"? There is no ocean of liquid CO2 on Venus. The phase diagrams for CO2 at Venusian temps and pressures clearly eliminate that possibility. And then there are accurate radar observations form Earth and orbiting probes that clearly show a hot, dry, solid surface.



The CO2 would be a supercritical fluid at Venusian surface pressure and temperature. That's the way I read the phase diagram anyway.

Double-A

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Old August 27th 14, 02:02 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Venus has no water.

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:39:50 PM UTC-7, Double-A wrote:

The CO2 would be a supercritical fluid at Venusian surface pressure and temperature. That's the way I read the phase diagram anyway.

Double-A


In a valley/depression of -5 km, figure the pressure of at least 122 bar (1770 psi)
 




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