Yet Another SD Rodrian Prediction True: Gravity is NOT an attractiveforce between bodies

Yet Another SD Rodrian Prediction True:
Gravity, as argued even by Einstein, is NOT
an attractive force between bodies.

EINSTEIN WAS RIGHT
- SPACE AND TIME BEND

Ninety years after he
expounded his famous theory,
a $700m NASA probe has
proved that the universe
behaves as he said. [read
the entire article below]

Actually, although what this experiment
PROVES is that "gravity is not an attractive
force between bodies" [merely], the results
are still misinterpreted here in the usual
nonsensical gibberish of conventional
"physics-talk" of the past century: In effect,
these interpreters speak of "space-time"
bending* because they are not yet aware
of the true evolution of the universe: They
have discovered that the universe behaves
as I describe it does [and which you can
read at: http://physics.sdrodrian.com ]
but they interpret it in their antediluvian
understanding (it's as if the scientists who
once believed that the entire universe
revolved around the planet earth were
interpreting this discovery in terms of that
once so universally-held ancient superstition).

ONLY my description of a universe which
has evolved across immense amounts of
time from unimaginably vast volumes of
space could have produced/accumulated
the "energy" that today powers it. No other
explanation accounts for the prodigious
amounts of energy infused into every
last/smallest bit of the universe's matter.
And not even the pretty fable of a magic
[Big Bang] bean bursting forth the whole
of "Creation" ... for no reason at all.

But, of course, this remains for yet another
more impressive understanding still.

S D Rodrian
http://sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://mp3.sdrodrian.com

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.
..
* Space is strictly/only the absence of
anything between instances of something.
And Time is merely the human mind's
attempt to synchronize one or more of
the universe's unrelated motions with/to
one of more of the universe's other
unrelated motion(s). --SDR

START QUOTE

Now the race is on to show
that the other half of
relativity also works--
for decades physicists have
been asking the question:
did Albert Einstein get it
wrong? After half a century,
seven cancellations and
$700m, a mission to test
his theory about the
universe has finally confirmed
that the man was a
mastermind -- or at
least half proved it.

The early results from Gravity
Probe B, one of Nasa's
most complicated satellites,
confirmed yesterday 'to
a precision of better than
1 per cent' the assertion
Einstein made 90 years ago
-- that an object such as
the Earth does indeed
distort the fabric of space and
time.

But this -- what is referred
to as the 'geodetic'
effect -- is only half of
the theory. The other,
'frame-dragging', stated
that as the world spins it
drags the fabric of the
universe behind it.

Francis Everitt, the Stanford
University professor
who has devoted his life to
investigating Einstein's
theory of relativity, told
scientists at the American
Physical Society it would
be another eight months
before he could measure
the 'frame-dragging' effect
precisely.

'Understanding the details
is a bit like an
archeological dig,' said
William Bencze, programme
manager for the mission.
'A scientist starts with a
bulldozer, follows with
a shovel, then finally uses
dental picks and toothbrushes
to clear the dust away.
We're passing out the
toothbrushes now.'

The Gravity Probe B
project was conceived in the
late 1950s but suffered
decades of delays while other
scientists ran tests
corroborating Einstein's theory.
It was Everitt's determination
that stopped it being
cancelled. The joint
mission between Nasa and
Stanford University uses
four of the most perfect
spheres -- ultra precise
gyroscopes -- to detect
minute distortions in th
e fabric of the universe.
Everitt's aim was to prove
to the highest precision
yet if Einstein was correct
in the way he described
gravity.

According to Einstein, in
the same way that a large
ball placed on a elasticated
cloth stretches the
fabric and causes it to
sag, so planets and stars
warp space-time. A marble
moving along the sagging
cloth will be drawn
towards the ball, as the Earth is
to the Sun, but not fall
into it as long as it keeps
moving at speed. Gravity,
argued Einstein, was not an
attractive force between
bodies as had been
previously thought.

Few scientists need the
final results, which will be
revealed in December, to
convince them of Einstein's
genius. 'From the most
esoteric aspects of time
dilation through to the
beautiful and simple
equation, e=mc2, the vast
bulk of Einstein's ideas
about the universe are
standing up to the test of
time,' said Robert Massey,
from the Royal
Astronomical Society.

He said the mission was
'legitimate science' to test
a theory and confirm its
brilliance, but others have
criticised the costs and
length of the study,
claiming that what was
announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees,
the Astronomer Royal, said
the announcement would
'fork no lightning'.

The theory explained

When Einstein wrote his
general theory of relativity
in 1915, he found a new
way to describe gravity. It
was not a force, as
Sir Isaac Newton had supposed,
but a consequence of the
distortion of space and
time, conceived together
in his theory as
'space-time'. Any object
distorts the fabric of
space-time and the bigger
it is, the greater the
effect.

Just as a bowling ball
placed on a trampoline
stretches the fabric and
causes it to sag, so planets
and stars warp space-time
-- a phenomenon known as
the 'geodetic effect'. A
marble moving along the
trampoline will be drawn
inexorably towards the ball.

Thus the planets orbiting
the Sun are not being
pulled by the Sun; they
are following the curved
space-time deformation
caused by the Sun. The reason
the planets never fall into
the Sun is because of the
speed at which they are travelling.

According to the theory,
matter and energy distort
space-time, curving it
around themselves. 'Frame
dragging' theoretically occurs
when the rotation of a
large body 'twists' nearby
space and time. It is this
second part of Einstein's
theory that the Nasa
mission has yet to corroborate.
More at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...ation.universe

On Jun 15, 4:36*pm, Aardvark wrote:
Yet Another SD Rodrian Prediction True:
Gravity, as argued even by Einstein, is NOT
an attractive force between bodies.

* EINSTEIN WAS RIGHT
* - SPACE AND TIME BEND

Here is the actual prediction, where Rodrian said Eisntein was wrong:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.m...d728a9d08e959c

David A. Smith

On Jun 15, 7:36*pm, Aardvark wrote:
Yet Another SD Rodrian Prediction True:
Gravity, as argued even by Einstein, is NOT
an attractive force between bodies.

* EINSTEIN WAS RIGHT
* - SPACE AND TIME BEND

* Ninety years after he
* expounded his famous theory,
* a $700m NASA probe has
* proved that the universe
* behaves as he said. [read
* the entire article below]

Actually, although what this experiment
PROVES is that "gravity is not an attractive
force between bodies" [merely], the results
are still misinterpreted here in the usual
nonsensical gibberish of conventional
"physics-talk" of the past century: In effect,
these interpreters speak of "space-time"
bending* because they are not yet aware
of the true evolution of the universe: They
have discovered that the universe behaves
as I describe it does [and which you can
read at:http://physics.sdrodrian.com]
but they interpret it in their antediluvian
understanding (it's as if the scientists who
once believed that the entire universe
revolved around the planet earth were
interpreting this discovery in terms of that
once so universally-held ancient superstition).

ONLY my description of a universe which
has evolved across immense amounts of
time from unimaginably vast volumes of
space could have produced/accumulated
the "energy" that today powers it. No other
explanation accounts for the prodigious
amounts of energy infused into every
last/smallest bit of the universe's matter.
And not even the pretty fable of a magic
[Big Bang] bean bursting forth the whole
of "Creation" ... for no reason at all.

But, of course, this remains for yet another
more impressive understanding still.

S D Rodrianhttp://sdrodrian.comhttp://physics.sdrodrian.comhttp://mp3.sdrodrian.com

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.
.
* Space is strictly/only the absence of
anything between instances of something.
And Time is merely the human mind's
attempt to synchronize one or more of
the universe's unrelated motions with/to
one of more of the universe's other
unrelated motion(s). * * --SDR

* START QUOTE

*Now the race is on to show
*that the other half of
*relativity also works--
*for decades physicists have
*been asking the question:
*did Albert Einstein get it
*wrong? After half a century,
*seven cancellations and
*$700m, a mission to test
*his theory about the
*universe has finally confirmed
*that the man was a
*mastermind -- or at
*least half proved it.

*The early results from Gravity
*Probe B, one of Nasa's
*most complicated satellites,
*confirmed yesterday 'to
*a precision of better than
*1 per cent' the assertion
*Einstein made 90 years ago
*-- that an object such as
*the Earth does indeed
*distort the fabric of space and
*time.

*But this -- what is referred
*to as the 'geodetic'
*effect -- is only half of
*the theory. The other,
*'frame-dragging', stated
*that as the world spins it
*drags the fabric of the
*universe behind it.

*Francis Everitt, the Stanford
*University professor
*who has devoted his life to
*investigating Einstein's
*theory of relativity, told
*scientists at the American
*Physical Society it would
*be another eight months
*before he could measure
*the 'frame-dragging' effect
*precisely.

*'Understanding the details
*is a bit like an
*archeological dig,' said
*William Bencze, programme
*manager for the mission.
*'A scientist starts with a
*bulldozer, follows with
*a shovel, then finally uses
*dental picks and toothbrushes
*to clear the dust away.
*We're passing out the
*toothbrushes now.'

*The Gravity Probe B
*project was conceived in the
*late 1950s but suffered
*decades of delays while other
*scientists ran tests
*corroborating Einstein's theory.
*It was Everitt's determination
*that stopped it being
*cancelled. The joint
*mission between Nasa and
*Stanford University uses
*four of the most perfect
*spheres -- ultra precise
*gyroscopes -- to detect
*minute distortions in th
*e fabric of the universe.
*Everitt's aim was to prove
*to the highest precision
*yet if Einstein was correct
*in the way he described
*gravity.

*According to Einstein, in
*the same way that a large
*ball placed on a elasticated
*cloth stretches the
*fabric and causes it to
*sag, so planets and stars
*warp space-time. A marble
*moving along the sagging
*cloth will be drawn
*towards the ball, as the Earth is
*to the Sun, but not fall
*into it as long as it keeps
*moving at speed. Gravity,
*argued Einstein, was not an
*attractive force between
*bodies as had been
*previously thought.

*Few scientists need the
*final results, which will be
*revealed in December, to
*convince them of Einstein's
*genius. 'From the most
*esoteric aspects of time
*dilation through to the
*beautiful and simple
*equation, e=mc2, the vast
*bulk of Einstein's ideas
*about the universe are
*standing up to the test of
*time,' said Robert Massey,
*from the Royal
*Astronomical Society.

*He said the mission was
*'legitimate science' to test
*a theory and confirm its
*brilliance, but others have
*criticised the costs and
*length of the study,
*claiming that what was
*announced had already been
*shown. Sir Martin Rees,
*the Astronomer Royal, said
*the announcement would
*'fork no lightning'.

* * *The theory explained

*When Einstein wrote his
*general theory of relativity
*in 1915, he found a new
way to describe gravity. It
*was not a force, as
*Sir Isaac Newton had supposed,
*but a consequence of the
*distortion of space and
*time, conceived together
*in his theory as
*'space-time'. Any object
*distorts the fabric of
*space-time and the bigger
*it is, the greater the
*effect.

*Just as a bowling ball
*placed on a trampoline
*stretches the fabric and
*causes it to sag, so planets
*and stars warp space-time
*-- a phenomenon known as
*the 'geodetic effect'. A
*marble moving along the
*trampoline will be drawn
*inexorably towards the ball.

*Thus the planets orbiting
*the Sun are not being
*pulled by the Sun; they
*are following the curved
*space-time deformation
*caused by the Sun. The reason
*the planets never fall into
*the Sun is because of the
*speed at which they are travelling.

*According to the theory,
*matter and energy distort
*space-time, curving it
*around themselves. 'Frame
*dragging' theoretically occurs
*when the rotation of a
*large body 'twists' nearby
*space and time. It is this
*second part of Einstein's
*theory that the Nasa
*mission has yet to corroborate.
*More at:
*http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...ation.universe

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~...ein_ether.html

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ...
disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
aether's state of displacement.

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
The material is maether.
Maether has mass.
Aether and matter have mass.
Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether.
Aether is displaced by matter.
The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'.
The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether.
Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter.

On Jun 16, 8:36*am, Aardvark wrote:
Yet Another SD Rodrian Prediction True:
Gravity, as argued even by Einstein, is NOT
an attractive force between bodies.

* EINSTEIN WAS RIGHT
* - SPACE AND TIME BEND

* Ninety years after he
* expounded his famous theory,
* a $700m NASA probe has
* proved that the universe
* behaves as he said. [read
* the entire article below]

Your text would be easier to parse if you upgraded your VIC20.

Aardvark wrote:

Yet Another SD Rodrian Prediction True:
Gravity, as argued even by Einstein, is NOT
an attractive force between bodies.

Convince the moon.

EINSTEIN WAS RIGHT
- SPACE AND TIME BEND
[snip crap]

1928-1931 Einstein, Müntz, Weitzenböck, Grommer, Lanczos, Cartan, and
Mayer formulated teleparallel gravitation, "Fernparallelismus," that
collapsed to General Relativity for Equivalence Principle = true. It
predicted EP violation coupled to angular momentum (physical spin,
particle spin, particle orbit, relativistic spin-orbit coupling),
arxiv:0812.0034 and such.

Spacetime torsion not curvature. Spacetime torsion is trivially
testible,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ertor1.jpg

idiot

Ninety years after he
expounded his famous theory,
a $700m NASA probe has
proved that the universe
behaves as he said. [read
the entire article below]

1) Galactic rotation curves vs. radius.
2) The Bullet Nebula and gravitational lensing absent baryonic
mass.
3) idiot

ONLY my description of a universe which
has evolved across immense amounts of
time from unimaginably vast volumes of
space could have produced/accumulated
the "energy" that today powers it.
[snip more crap]

1) Account for the universe's natural abundances of hydrogen,
helium, lithium, and boron.
2) Account for current summed WMAP observations.
3) Account for large scale filamentous distribution of galaxies.
4) idiot

* Space is strictly/only the absence of
anything between instances of something.
And Time is merely the human mind's
attempt to synchronize one or more of
the universe's unrelated motions with/to
one of more of the universe's other
unrelated motion(s).
[snip rest of crap]

1) The momentum four-vector.
2) The metric.
3) The quantitiative empirical validation of all GR predictions.
4)idiot.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

Aardvark wrote:
[snip crap]

Why don't physicists and other mathematicians
posit the existence of a two-dimension reality?

1) Volume.
2) idiot

Because Homer Simpson lives there,
[snip more crap]

idiot

Science owes a lot to Homer Simpson!
[snip more crap]

Francis Everitt, the Stanford
University professor
who has devoted his life to
investigating Einstein's
theory of relativity, told
scientists at the American
Physical Society it would
be another eight months
before he could measure
the 'frame-dragging' effect
precisely.
[snip rest of crap]

Gravity Probe B was a disaster of patch potentials. William
Fairbanks, also at Stanford, knew how to handle patch potentials.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

mpc755 wrote:
[snip 250 lines of crap]

The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
aether's state of displacement.

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.
The material is maether.
Maether has mass.
Aether and matter have mass.
Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether.
Aether is displaced by matter.
The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'.
The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether.
Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter.

idiot

http://home.comcast.net/~steveham21/turbo.mpg

idiot

http://www.kidsreads.com/reviews/0385327501.asp
http://corsairanovel.topsite.ma.cx/the-hidden-arrow-of-maether.html
"The Hidden Arrow of Maether"

HEY STOOOPID: ***OBSERVATION*** SAYS YOU ARE A PIECE OF **** TO 15
DECIMAL PLACES. Pull your thumb out of your ass and read what people
have *done* in the past five years. Theory says everything. You are
insurmountably stooopid.

http://arXiv.org/abs/0706.2031
Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)
http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml
Phys. Rev. D8, pg 3321 (1973)
Phys. Rev. D9 pg 2489 (1974)
http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/Walsworth/pdf/PT_Romalis0704.pdf
No aether

http://arxiv.org/abs/0905.1929
http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2005-5/index.html
Phys. Rev. D 81 022003 (2010)
http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.0287
No Lorentz violation

idiot
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

Dear Aardvark:

On Jun 15, 9:25*pm, Aardvark wrote:
On Jun 15, 8:10 wrote: On Jun 15, 4:36 pm, Aardvark wrote:

Yet Another SDRodrianPrediction True:
Gravity, as argued even by Einstein, is NOT
an attractive force between bodies.

* EINSTEIN WAS RIGHT
* - SPACE AND TIME BEND

Here is the actual prediction, where
Rodrian said Eisntein was wrong:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.m...d728a9d08e959c

Dear David, my memory fails me nowadays
when old age and incipient Alzheimer's is
robbing me of all I once was. So I went to
that ancient post to see where I had said
Einstein's contention that Gravity is NOT an
attractive force was. I'm afraid I did not
find such a statement by me. I can't even
find any discussion of this matter in that
post at all. It would be as unexpected that
I should say such a thing as that I should
say that whales wear shoes!

Well, since you cannot seem to wade through your own affected style
either, let me supply an appropriate quote:
QUOTE
Too bad Einstein simply replaced one myth with another myth (namely,
the delusion that Time AND space have pertinent/critical existence...
while the truth is that Time only exists in our minds, and Space is
only the absence of anything existing there.
END QUOTE

So clearly you thought he was wrong about gravitation. If interested,
I'm sure I can find other examples of you make "predictions"...

The nice thing (for you) about your Alzheimer's, is that you can claim
victory at every turn. Whether a new limit is found to relativity, or
another experiment shows support, you can point to where you
"predicted" this would happen.

David A. Smith

On Jun 16, 1:05 pm, dlzc wrote:
Dear Aardvark:

On Jun 15, 9:25 pm, Aardvark wrote:







On Jun 15, 8:10 wrote: On Jun 15, 4:36 pm, Aardvark wrote:

Yet Another SDRodrianPrediction True:
Gravity, as argued even by Einstein, is NOT
an attractive force between bodies.

EINSTEIN WAS RIGHT
- SPACE AND TIME BEND

Here is the actual prediction, where
Rodriansaid Eisntein was wrong:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.m...d728a9d08e959c

Dear David, my memory fails me nowadays
when old age and incipient Alzheimer's is
robbing me of all I once was. So I went to
that ancient post to see where I had said
Einstein's contention that Gravity is NOT an
attractive force was. I'm afraid I did not
find such a statement by me. I can't even
find any discussion of this matter in that
post at all. It would be as unexpected that
I should say such a thing as that I should
say that whales wear shoes!

Well, since you cannot seem to wade through your own affected style
either, let me supply an appropriate quote:
QUOTE
Too bad Einstein simply replaced one myth with another myth (namely,
the delusion that Time AND space have pertinent/critical existence...
while the truth is that Time only exists in our minds, and Space is
only the absence of anything existing there.
END QUOTE

So clearly you thought he was wrong about gravitation. If interested,
I'm sure I can find other examples of you make "predictions"...

The nice thing (for you) about your Alzheimer's, is that you can claim
victory at every turn. Whether a new limit is found to relativity, or
another experiment shows support, you can point to where you
"predicted" this would happen.

Hey, ya gotta get yer victories where ya can!

SDR



David A. Smith