When Will Brad Guth Get His First Clue?

Airhead "Brad Guth" wrote:

That reminds me...was it you who said that the collision
between "Deep Impact" and that comet would throw Mars out of
the solar system or something like that? (If you didn't say
that, why not?)

John Griffin,
You actually have a mind to remind? Going by this previous
used toilet-paper statement of your's seems to say that you've
lost whatever flatulence you once had as a mind.

I wish you were able to just say whatever is rattling around in
that space between your ears, i.e., resist your natural
compulsion to make it incoherent like that.

BTW; what's your calculations (specific to the direction and
micro meter/s), that the moon velocity should be shifted by
such a nifty asteroid impact, that which should be easy to
arrange?

See below.

Why are you so afraid of folks learning the truth, that we did
NOT quite walk on the moon?

Have you stopped beating your neighbor's wife?

What's the big freaking deal (aka "so what's the difference")
if we haven't moon walked?

It was a fun thing to do, and the money was available, so there
we were. It wasn't a big deal.

Doesn't our government generally lie their butts off most of
the time (especially when things are going rather badly)?

I don't know. You don't know. I doubt it. You don't doubt it.
Our government is just a bunch of us.

However, your question in the context does show how ****ing
stupid you are. It reminds me of an idiot who insists that you
know the speed of an individual vehicle on a freeway if you know
the number of vehicles using the road. Your "logic" is
"government lies most of the time, therefore it lies all the
time," or some **** like that. Also, are you prepared to say
"things have been going rather badly" for thirty years, and
therefore all the people from bottom to top of the entire ****ing
aerospace industry have been lying about the trips to the moon?

Haven't you lied on behalf of protecting your Third Reich and
their cult of Skull and Bones?

ROTMFFLMMFAO! You are truly a ****ing idiot. I don't have any
"Third Reich" (You can look up that term in history books if you
have any interest) and I have no idea whether any Third Reich
would have a "skull and bones." The question is 100% dumber than
****.

Wasn't our perpetrated cold-war nothing but liarsupon liars
telling us lies from day one?

Dumb****, you have demonstrated that you can't learn the stuff
you're actually obsessing over, so what the **** makes you think
newsgroup posters are going to try to teach you history?

Doesn't every red, white and blue blooded American lie and/or
having benefitted from others having lied from day one?

Huh?

Isn't other than being a native, being yet an all American a
lie?

Huh?

I wish you'd translate those into coherent form so I could laugh
at them.

Just because you've relocated yourself to another land that
you've summarily taken from the rightful owners doesn't make
you or any of your kin folk actual Americans, just as
relocating to France doesn't make you French, and so forth.
The taking of North America was not a natural progression of
human expansion/migration. Some of us got lucky, whereas
natives got either quite dead, extremely sick and prematurely
died off, or we just ran them off. Of those natives which
stuck around we continually lied to. So, what's new?

Holy ****! A digression! Damn, how fun! I don't give a ****
about the primitives, but I can guarantee you that they would
never have been able to put a man on the moon, or even on a non-
living moving object of any kind. The ones that the Europeans
found on these continents came here from Asia lots of centuries
earlier, killed all of the males from the previous wave of
migrant hunter-gatherers, and waited their turn.

Obviously you've still got no such fly-by-rocket lander (not
even so much as a prototype), and I'll have to bet China is
getting closer to seeing their prototype lander actually
perform. So, why don't you prove me wrong?

The Andorrans are in the final stages of taking control of China.
Go ahead, prove me wrong.

While you're at it; why don't you get Kodak corporate to
prove me wrong?

While you're at it, why don't you get the town council of Athol,
Idaho to prove me wrong? (speaking of irrelevance...)

BTW; the impact energy is not 1/2,000,000,000,000 the worth
of the moon.

Who cares? Still, as I mentioned, the moon's mass is
2,000,000,000,000 times the mass of Apophis. You can probably
learn the difference between mass and kinetic energy. Combine
that with learning to read, and you might be able to understand
the point.

It's roughly worth half of 4.6e10 X V2. At 10 km/s = 2.3e16
kg.

What makes you think a hypothetical (and, I say, damn near
impossible) impact velocity would be 10 km/second? What makes you
think 10000^2 is 10^6? Why don't you understand what I mean when
I say "mass"?

Taking a mere 10% = .23e16 kg of applied force. Thus
7.35e22/0.23e16 = 32e6:1 should cause our moon velocity to
measurably shift. Why is it that your best swag can't manage
to say by how much? -

No one gives a **** how much, fool. The momentum of the
moon/Apophis system after impact would not be measureably
different from the momentum of the moon alone at the same time.

However, I will help you with your stupid question. First, I
should mention that it's amusing that you haven't thought of
doing this simple test.

Moon mass: 7.35*10^22 Apophis: 4.6*10^10
Earth mass: 5.97*10*24


Go to http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/

Get someone to show you how to choose parameters that describe
what you believe to be an Earth/Asteroid impact equivalent to
your hypothetical and virtually impossible Moon/Apophis merger.
Try a rock 81 times the mass of Apophis at first. You'll need
someone to show you how to calculate a density and diameter to do
that. After that, make the rock bigger and bigger until it says
there would be a noticeable effect on the planet's motion. Use
big increments at first. Alternatively, you could save time by
just looking at their math and calculate the threshold where the
impact begins to change the planet's motion. Okay, you couldn't--
but somebody could.

After you finish sniveling that the authors of that program are
incest-cloned borg-slapped testicle-free heathen-snookered
informercial-science Skull and Bones Third Reich maggot bait,
which you sure as hell will because you're going to hate the
results, be sure to click the "tell me more" link so you can
personally dismantle their methodology and point out all the
errors in the equations they use. Also, let me know if you find
any reason why the idea of using their earth impact solutions to
get an idea of the effects of a moon impact is not valid. (Never
mind their wind speed calculations.)









Brad Guth