Submarine as space ship!

Radios and other important gear along with antennas, Of course sonor
wouldn't be of much value but rempval of SONOR

Hi "Scientific Cabbie":

You expect us to take this seriously, and you don't even know enough about
submarine systems to know the acronym is SON_A_R?! Oh, you're going to have a
SYMPOSIUM, are you? Who'd attend? Art Bell, for god's sake?!

I'm sorry folks, you know I'm not usually like this. Maybe I'm turning into a
curmudgeon. I'm certainly getting old enough. But it's just that lately every
other post on s.a.a. is from an Internet LOON with nothing better to do than to
waste everyone's time including his/her own!

If you're seriously interested in spaceflight, go to the library and check some
_books_ out and READ! Turn off Art Bell. He's a liar and a fool. TURN OFF THE
COMPUTER! GO OUT AND MEET SOME GIRLS! JUST STOP IT!

Sitting here typing FOOLISHNESS into your PC signed with a silly...SILLY screen
name will get you absolutely nowhere! Why a submarine? Why not a London bus?
Why not the Disneyland monorail cars? Why not the Washington Monument?! "All"
we have to do is get them into space!

SHEESH! Somebody buy me a drink...I think I'm drifting over the edge, y'all,
and you have my apologies. I'll be good from now on. ;-)

I will not reply to trolls and loons...I will not reply to trolls and loons...I
will not reply to trolls and loons...

Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of _Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope_
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"Sean" wrote in message
...
What about using a space ship as a..... wait for it....as a
submarine....cool eh?

Captain Pugwash.


wrote in message
om...
I think you are being too hard on the idea that is being presented here.
The
good thing about a submarine in outer space is that, if it is a fleet
ballistic missile sub, it will already have launch tubes. The missiles
could
be for good purposes or just to get it the hell over with, you KNOW it
is
going to happen, and militarize the hell out of outer space. Why let
settlements be built on the Moon and Mars before the capability exists
to
blow them to kingdom come? This time do it right and get the capability
to
destroy upfront!

I also like the idea of the torpedo tubes. Someday, maybe in two hundred
years who knows, we are going to be looking, diving, swimming and
dumping
in
the frozen ice topped liquid oceans of the outer planets and their
moons.
We
can blow the hell out of anything we find there from the beginning. Why
scale up our response, why not just "go all the way" from the start? A
lot
of your checklist of criticisms seem to be coming from this arty farty
goodie two shoe perspective. "helping out at the local hospital?" what
the
hell is that? You think the money that is being spent by the ones who
write
the checks is so scientists can have renewed Solaris work stations and
young
pretty British assistants who eat vegan and are all so far away from
home?

It is all about dominance over the Chinese and anybody else on earth
that
gets in America's way. Get smart about it!!! A submarine that is fully
armed
is a good step toward the real goal. I think the cooling problem for the
reactors is the stumbling point. Maybe a big scaled up version of a car
radiator, a few hundred feet across, that could be towed behind the
submarine would work?



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"Sean" wrote in message
...
What about using a space ship as a..... wait for it....as a
submarine....cool eh?

Captain Pugwash.


wrote in message
om...
I think you are being too hard on the idea that is being presented here.
The
good thing about a submarine in outer space is that, if it is a fleet
ballistic missile sub, it will already have launch tubes. The missiles
could
be for good purposes or just to get it the hell over with, you KNOW it
is
going to happen, and militarize the hell out of outer space. Why let
settlements be built on the Moon and Mars before the capability exists
to
blow them to kingdom come? This time do it right and get the capability
to
destroy upfront!

I also like the idea of the torpedo tubes. Someday, maybe in two hundred
years who knows, we are going to be looking, diving, swimming and
dumping
in
the frozen ice topped liquid oceans of the outer planets and their
moons.
We
can blow the hell out of anything we find there from the beginning. Why
scale up our response, why not just "go all the way" from the start? A
lot
of your checklist of criticisms seem to be coming from this arty farty
goodie two shoe perspective. "helping out at the local hospital?" what
the
hell is that? You think the money that is being spent by the ones who
write
the checks is so scientists can have renewed Solaris work stations and
young
pretty British assistants who eat vegan and are all so far away from
home?

It is all about dominance over the Chinese and anybody else on earth
that
gets in America's way. Get smart about it!!! A submarine that is fully
armed
is a good step toward the real goal. I think the cooling problem for the
reactors is the stumbling point. Maybe a big scaled up version of a car
radiator, a few hundred feet across, that could be towed behind the
submarine would work?



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"Sean" wrote in message
...
What about using a space ship as a..... wait for it....as a
submarine....cool eh?

Captain Pugwash.


wrote in message
om...
I think you are being too hard on the idea that is being presented here.
The
good thing about a submarine in outer space is that, if it is a fleet
ballistic missile sub, it will already have launch tubes. The missiles
could
be for good purposes or just to get it the hell over with, you KNOW it
is
going to happen, and militarize the hell out of outer space. Why let
settlements be built on the Moon and Mars before the capability exists
to
blow them to kingdom come? This time do it right and get the capability
to
destroy upfront!

I also like the idea of the torpedo tubes. Someday, maybe in two hundred
years who knows, we are going to be looking, diving, swimming and
dumping
in
the frozen ice topped liquid oceans of the outer planets and their
moons.
We
can blow the hell out of anything we find there from the beginning. Why
scale up our response, why not just "go all the way" from the start? A
lot
of your checklist of criticisms seem to be coming from this arty farty
goodie two shoe perspective. "helping out at the local hospital?" what
the
hell is that? You think the money that is being spent by the ones who
write
the checks is so scientists can have renewed Solaris work stations and
young
pretty British assistants who eat vegan and are all so far away from
home?

It is all about dominance over the Chinese and anybody else on earth
that
gets in America's way. Get smart about it!!! A submarine that is fully
armed
is a good step toward the real goal. I think the cooling problem for the
reactors is the stumbling point. Maybe a big scaled up version of a car
radiator, a few hundred feet across, that could be towed behind the
submarine would work?



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[ ] Somewhat too revealing of your minimal mental abilities
[ ] Too similar to other trolls submitted in the past

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[ ] Taking remedial English lessons
[ ] Mentioning that you are a professional
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[ ] Swearing more
[ ] Including more colorful personal insults
[ ] Using the phrases "you people" or "those people" more
[ ] Modifying your insults to cover larger groups of people at once
[ ] Ranting incoherently
[ ] Using religious or racial slurs
[ ] Using the words "junk", "crap", "garbage", "toy", "flimsy" and
"Professional" more frequently
[ ] Using childish taunts
[ ] Including fake laughter such as "ha ha ha" or "har de har de har"
[ ] Focusing on just one outrageous topic will give your troll more
punch
[ ] Ignoring any facts, and using more absolutes in your troll
[ ] Using all capital letters
[x] Focusing more on those areas in which "your" view is better than
"their"
view
[ ] Exaggerate more, you need not be limited by facts

Please get a...
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[ ] job
[ ] clue
[ ] book on basic history/astronomy
[x] note from your mom
[ ] telescope

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[ ] Save your postings for later and think if you really want to send
them
[ ] Take your medication
[ ] Not have "one for the road" next time
[x] Stay in school
[ ] Go and buy whatever eyepiece you want, we don't care
[ ] Think about other people's feelings before you post
[ ] Get your ego boost some other way
[ ] Realize that by trolling a group you hurt everyone, not just the
people
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[ ] Put up a web site with your name on it to show the world
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[ ] Actually having a look through a telescope
[ ] Helping someone else
[ ] Spending some time with your family instead of your magazines
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"Sean" wrote in message
...
What about using a space ship as a..... wait for it....as a
submarine....cool eh?

Captain Pugwash.


wrote in message
om...
I think you are being too hard on the idea that is being presented here.
The
good thing about a submarine in outer space is that, if it is a fleet
ballistic missile sub, it will already have launch tubes. The missiles
could
be for good purposes or just to get it the hell over with, you KNOW it
is
going to happen, and militarize the hell out of outer space. Why let
settlements be built on the Moon and Mars before the capability exists
to
blow them to kingdom come? This time do it right and get the capability
to
destroy upfront!

I also like the idea of the torpedo tubes. Someday, maybe in two hundred
years who knows, we are going to be looking, diving, swimming and
dumping
in
the frozen ice topped liquid oceans of the outer planets and their
moons.
We
can blow the hell out of anything we find there from the beginning. Why
scale up our response, why not just "go all the way" from the start? A
lot
of your checklist of criticisms seem to be coming from this arty farty
goodie two shoe perspective. "helping out at the local hospital?" what
the
hell is that? You think the money that is being spent by the ones who
write
the checks is so scientists can have renewed Solaris work stations and
young
pretty British assistants who eat vegan and are all so far away from
home?

It is all about dominance over the Chinese and anybody else on earth
that
gets in America's way. Get smart about it!!! A submarine that is fully
armed
is a good step toward the real goal. I think the cooling problem for the
reactors is the stumbling point. Maybe a big scaled up version of a car
radiator, a few hundred feet across, that could be towed behind the
submarine would work?



"Chuck Taylor" wrote in
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"Unscientific Cabbie" wrote in message
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This is my new Idea for spaceship of future Today!!!!
snip

I am not the original author
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[ ] Offensive
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[ ] Laden with circular reasoning
[ ] Laced with misunderstandings of basic scientific principles
[ ] Somewhat too revealing of your minimal mental abilities
[ ] Too similar to other trolls submitted in the past

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[x] Including a few actual facts
[ ] Taking remedial English lessons
[ ] Mentioning that you are a professional
[ ] Stating more falsehoods as facts than you already have
[ ] Swearing more
[ ] Including more colorful personal insults
[ ] Using the phrases "you people" or "those people" more
[ ] Modifying your insults to cover larger groups of people at once
[ ] Ranting incoherently
[ ] Using religious or racial slurs
[ ] Using the words "junk", "crap", "garbage", "toy", "flimsy" and
"Professional" more frequently
[ ] Using childish taunts
[ ] Including fake laughter such as "ha ha ha" or "har de har de har"
[ ] Focusing on just one outrageous topic will give your troll more
punch
[ ] Ignoring any facts, and using more absolutes in your troll
[ ] Using all capital letters
[x] Focusing more on those areas in which "your" view is better than
"their"
view
[ ] Exaggerate more, you need not be limited by facts

Please get a...
[x] life
[ ] grip
[ ] job
[ ] clue
[ ] book on basic history/astronomy
[x] note from your mom
[ ] telescope

You should...
[ ] Have someone who can read review your postings
[ ] Save your postings for later and think if you really want to send
them
[ ] Take your medication
[ ] Not have "one for the road" next time
[x] Stay in school
[ ] Go and buy whatever eyepiece you want, we don't care
[ ] Think about other people's feelings before you post
[ ] Get your ego boost some other way
[ ] Realize that by trolling a group you hurt everyone, not just the
people
you are mad at
[ ] Go away so we can talk about astronomy
[ ] Put up a web site with your name on it to show the world
[ ] Take down your web site, it's not very good


Suggested other activities besides trolling...
[ ] Posting something constructive
[ ] Actually having a look through a telescope
[ ] Helping someone else
[ ] Spending some time with your family instead of your magazines
[ ] Working off that big pot belly
[ ] Get your ego boost instead by helping out at a local hospital
[x] Consider another hobby that does not require contact with other
humans
e.g. mortuary science

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Ogden Johnson III wrote:

Scientific Cabbie wrote:

This is my new Idea for spaceship of future Today!!!!

Cross-posted, among others, to alt.fan.art-bell. Need anyone say
more?


Better sent to alt.usenet.kooks.

Ogden Johnson III wrote:

Scientific Cabbie wrote:

This is my new Idea for spaceship of future Today!!!!

Cross-posted, among others, to alt.fan.art-bell. Need anyone say
more?


Better sent to alt.usenet.kooks.

Ogden Johnson III wrote:

Scientific Cabbie wrote:

This is my new Idea for spaceship of future Today!!!!

Cross-posted, among others, to alt.fan.art-bell. Need anyone say
more?


Better sent to alt.usenet.kooks.

Ogden Johnson III wrote:

Scientific Cabbie wrote:

This is my new Idea for spaceship of future Today!!!!

Cross-posted, among others, to alt.fan.art-bell. Need anyone say
more?


Better sent to alt.usenet.kooks.

dwelsh46 wrote:
Actually this is hardly a new idea. For an example of a simple
adaptation of
a submarine into a space ship I refer you to the serial "Flash Gordon"
(1936) in which the space ships look a good deal like Captain Nemo's
submarine and are actually maneouvered using periscopes.

Not a submarine, but don't forget Starship Yamoto.

Cheers
David