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Falcon Heavy test flight payload announced on Twitter
Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... send a bunch of communication satellites and some inflatable habitats, with supplies Did you miss the beginning of this thread? Musk isn't taking suggestions. He Tweeted he's sending his Tesla Roadster up on the first Falcon Heavy flight. The first test flight has maybe a 50/50 chance of success. So, this thing is going to be a mass simulator, albeit a fancy one than your typical hunk of metal or tank of water. And now for a complete reversal: Elon Musk told us he was sending a car to space, then said he totally made it up; 30 Other reports say that the plan is real by Sean O'Kane@sokane1 Dec 1, 2017, 11:33pm EST https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/1/1...n-heavy-tesla- roadster-launch-elon-musk From above: Musk sent us a response in a direct message on Twitter saying he "totally made it up." The plot thickens. I'm as confused as everyone else right now. At one point wasn't he joking about sending up several tons of underwear, too? -- "Taught me how to shoot to kill. A specialist with a deadly skill. A skill I needed to have to be a survivor. It's over now, or so they say. But sometimes it don't work out that way. And you're never the same when you've been under fire." -- Huey Lewis and the News "Walking On A Thin Line" |
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Falcon Heavy test flight payload announced on Twitter
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says... Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... In article , says... send a bunch of communication satellites and some inflatable habitats, with supplies Did you miss the beginning of this thread? Musk isn't taking suggestions. He Tweeted he's sending his Tesla Roadster up on the first Falcon Heavy flight. The first test flight has maybe a 50/50 chance of success. So, this thing is going to be a mass simulator, albeit a fancy one than your typical hunk of metal or tank of water. And now for a complete reversal: Elon Musk told us he was sending a car to space, then said he totally made it up; 30 Other reports say that the plan is real by Sean O'Kane@sokane1 Dec 1, 2017, 11:33pm EST https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/1/1...n-heavy-tesla- roadster-launch-elon-musk From above: Musk sent us a response in a direct message on Twitter saying he "totally made it up." The plot thickens. I'm as confused as everyone else right now. At one point wasn't he joking about sending up several tons of underwear, too? I didn't hear that one. Just what kind of sites are you visiting? :-) Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of. |
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Falcon Heavy test flight payload announced on Twitter
On 12/4/2017 6:12 AM, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says... Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... The plot thickens. I'm as confused as everyone else right now. At one point wasn't he joking about sending up several tons of underwear, too? I think they should fall back on the old reliable, wheel of cheese. If the flight is successful, the first one to be able to retrieve it gets to keep it! Is the payload destination for F9H-L1 really Mars? GTO would make more sense to me... I didn't hear that one. Just what kind of sites are you visiting? :-) Jeff I can't speak for Fred, but for myself, pretty cheesy ones. :-) Dave |
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Falcon Heavy test flight payload announced on Twitter
Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says... Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... In article , says... send a bunch of communication satellites and some inflatable habitats, with supplies Did you miss the beginning of this thread? Musk isn't taking suggestions. He Tweeted he's sending his Tesla Roadster up on the first Falcon Heavy flight. The first test flight has maybe a 50/50 chance of success. So, this thing is going to be a mass simulator, albeit a fancy one than your typical hunk of metal or tank of water. And now for a complete reversal: Elon Musk told us he was sending a car to space, then said he totally made it up; 30 Other reports say that the plan is real by Sean O'Kane@sokane1 Dec 1, 2017, 11:33pm EST https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/1/1...n-heavy-tesla- roadster-launch-elon-musk From above: Musk sent us a response in a direct message on Twitter saying he "totally made it up." The plot thickens. I'm as confused as everyone else right now. At one point wasn't he joking about sending up several tons of underwear, too? I didn't hear that one. Just what kind of sites are you visiting? :-) I think he originally said it when he talked about funding BFR by selling underwear. Watch his Australia presentation on the new BFR configuration. I think he even mentioned it in passing there, when he talked about now having a real idea about how to fund it. Wouldn't you want to buy a Falcon Heavy or BFR tee that had actually been launched on Falcon Heavy or BFR? -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." --George Bernard Shaw |
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Falcon Heavy test flight payload announced on Twitter
On 3/12/2017 1:38 AM, Jeff Findley wrote:
Falcon Heavy has maybe a 50/50 chance of success on its first flight. But you can't launch it empty, because that doesn't properly simulate a flight with a payload on top. So, you really do need a mass simulator. In the past, mass simulators have been solid chunks of metal or a tank filled with something benign like water. Well, Elon Musk isn't one to follow the old boring trends. So, he announced his payload plan (mass simulator) to the public via Twitter last night: On Friday evening, Musk tweeted what that payload would be his "midnight cherry Tesla Roadster." And the car will be playing Space Oddity, by David Bowie; the song which begins, "Ground Control to Major Tom." In fairness to any aliens who come across it hundreds of millions of years hence, there should be an attempt[*] made to explain how what is clearly a land vehicle designed for a gravity field much larger than that of Mars should end up in orbit around it. Sylvia. [*] Which pretty much implies providing a complete language course designed for aliens. |
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Falcon Heavy test flight payload announced on Twitter
On 12/12/2017 3:12 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 3/12/2017 1:38 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: Falcon Heavy has maybe a 50/50 chance of success on its first flight. But you can't launch it empty, because that doesn't properly simulate a flight with a payload on top.Â* So, you really do need a mass simulator. In the past, mass simulators have been solid chunks of metal or a tank filled with something benign like water. Well, Elon Musk isn't one to follow the old boring trends.Â* So, he announced his payload plan (mass simulator) to the public via Twitter last night: Â*Â*Â* On Friday evening, Musk tweeted what that payload would be his Â*Â*Â* "midnight cherry Tesla Roadster." And the car will be playing Â*Â*Â* Space Oddity, by David Bowie; the song which begins, "Ground Â*Â*Â* Control to Major Tom." In fairness to any aliens who come across it hundreds of millions of years hence, there should be an attempt[*] made to explain how what is clearly a land vehicle designed for a gravity field much larger than that of Mars should end up in orbit around it. Sylvia. [*] Which pretty much implies providing a complete language course designed for aliens. Although fun to imagine, this story has been de-bunked, by Musk himself. It was Elon winking at us.... However orbiting a CD of Bowie songs, including Space Oddity, ought not to be out of the question. And would keep the aliens busy for a long time.... Dave |
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Falcon Heavy test flight payload announced on Twitter
On 13/12/2017 2:47 AM, David Spain wrote:
On 12/12/2017 3:12 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: On 3/12/2017 1:38 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: Falcon Heavy has maybe a 50/50 chance of success on its first flight. But you can't launch it empty, because that doesn't properly simulate a flight with a payload on top. So, you really do need a mass simulator. In the past, mass simulators have been solid chunks of metal or a tank filled with something benign like water. Well, Elon Musk isn't one to follow the old boring trends. So, he announced his payload plan (mass simulator) to the public via Twitter last night: On Friday evening, Musk tweeted what that payload would be his "midnight cherry Tesla Roadster." And the car will be playing Space Oddity, by David Bowie; the song which begins, "Ground Control to Major Tom." In fairness to any aliens who come across it hundreds of millions of years hence, there should be an attempt[*] made to explain how what is clearly a land vehicle designed for a gravity field much larger than that of Mars should end up in orbit around it. Sylvia. [*] Which pretty much implies providing a complete language course designed for aliens. Although fun to imagine, this story has been de-bunked, by Musk himself. It was Elon winking at us.... However orbiting a CD of Bowie songs, including Space Oddity, ought not to be out of the question. And would keep the aliens busy for a long time.... Dave Do CDs, even pressed CDs, work after hundreds of millions of years? Sylvia. |
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Falcon Heavy test flight payload announced on Twitter
On 12/16/2017 8:17 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
Do CDs, even pressed CDs, work after hundreds of millions of years? Sylvia. Well if you're going to go all out post-historic on me, probably not. Interesting digression.... Space vacuum with protection from radiation helps a great deal, the real issue is probably temperature regulation to prevent de-bonding. That's probably a CD killer. Here's a list of issues: quote How Do CDs or DVDs Rot? As mentioned above, different types of optical discs contain different layers and particularly the reflective layer is susceptible to damage. Standard compact discs typically have a reflective layer made from aluminum. When exposed to air, aluminum oxidizes, which naturally happens around the edges of the CD. However, degradation of the reflective layer is not the only cause of disc rot. The causes of disc rot are manifold and can include one of the following: oxidation or corrosion of reflective layer physical damage to disc surfaces or edges galvanic reaction between layers and coatings chemical reactions with contaminants ultra-violet light damage breaking down of disc materials, e.g. de-bonding of adhesives between layers Interestingly, while most types of disc rot are caused by inappropriate use and/or storage, there is one in particular, i.e. CD bronzing, which is caused by a fault in manufacturing. /quote From: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/cds-tru...vity-mold-rot/ Being in vacuum takes care of item 1. Not being in the possession of humans takes care of item 2. Item 3 is a limiting factor, being in space won't change this. Item 4 highly unlikely if the capsule was prepped in a "clean room", unless the disk was ill-manufactured. Item 5 is an issue but gamma rays are probably far worse than UV in a space environment, so assume disk would need rad shielding and would have it in a capsule. Item 6 is probably the most significant problem, esp. if the disc is exposed to extreme cold. Dave |
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Falcon Heavy test flight payload announced on Twitter
On 17/12/2017 12:41 PM, David Spain wrote:
On 12/16/2017 8:17 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: Do CDs, even pressed CDs, work after hundreds of millions of years? Sylvia. Well if you're going to go all out post-historic on me, probably not. Interesting digression.... Space vacuum with protection from radiation helps a great deal, the real issue is probably temperature regulation to prevent de-bonding. That's probably a CD killer. Here's a list of issues: quote How Do CDs or DVDs Rot? As mentioned above, different types of optical discs contain different layers and particularly the reflective layer is susceptible to damage. Standard compact discs typically have a reflective layer made from aluminum. When exposed to air, aluminum oxidizes, which naturally happens around the edges of the CD. However, degradation of the reflective layer is not the only cause of disc rot. The causes of disc rot are manifold and can include one of the following: oxidation or corrosion of reflective layer physical damage to disc surfaces or edges galvanic reaction between layers and coatings chemical reactions with contaminants ultra-violet light damage breaking down of disc materials, e.g. de-bonding of adhesives between layers Interestingly, while most types of disc rot are caused by inappropriate use and/or storage, there is one in particular, i.e. CD bronzing, which is caused by a fault in manufacturing. /quote From: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/cds-tru...vity-mold-rot/ Being in vacuum takes care of item 1. Not being in the possession of humans takes care of item 2. Item 3 is a limiting factor, being in space won't change this. Item 4 highly unlikely if the capsule was prepped in a "clean room", unless the disk was ill-manufactured. Item 5 is an issue but gamma rays are probably far worse than UV in a space environment, so assume disk would need rad shielding and would have it in a capsule. Item 6 is probably the most significant problem, esp. if the disc is exposed to extreme cold. Dave I suspect that on the time scale of hundreds of millions of years, effects like evaporation become significant. Sylvia. |
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