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"Fleetie" wrote:
what are we hiding her? Telescopes of mass destruction? Well maybe _he's_ not selling them, but imagine what the mirror from a 10 metre scope atop a mountain could _do_ to something if it were used to focus sunlight! r=5m; == A ~= 78.5 m^2 P_incident ~= 1kWm^-2 == P_tot ~= 78.5 kW That's quite a toaster! It could spoil your whole day if it was pointing at you! Crikey - I hope the Americans aren't reading this. They'll all trade in their goto scopes for this latest gizmo. Get the Meade with DAGS, the world's first Digital Auto Gotcher system. No Frenchman will ever kick sand in your face again, no German will ever get near a deckchair and livel... Cheers Martin -------------- Martin Frey N 51 02 E 0 47 -------------- |
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"Fleetie" wrote in message ... "Martin Frey" wrote Not exactly a flame - but I did post a distinct worry/criticism about why a site like yours needs passwords - a) because I have difficulty remembering passwords and b) what are we hiding her? Telescopes of mass destruction? Well maybe _he's_ not selling them, but imagine what the mirror from a 10 metre scope atop a mountain could _do_ to something if it were used to focus sunlight! Thats just what Christopher Lee thought in The Man With Golden Gun....came to nowt in the end though when Bond blew it up (and then gave Britt Ekland a good seeing to for good measure). |
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"Fleetie" wrote in message ... "Martin Frey" wrote Not exactly a flame - but I did post a distinct worry/criticism about why a site like yours needs passwords - a) because I have difficulty remembering passwords and b) what are we hiding her? Telescopes of mass destruction? Well maybe _he's_ not selling them, but imagine what the mirror from a 10 metre scope atop a mountain could _do_ to something if it were used to focus sunlight! Thats just what Christopher Lee thought in The Man With Golden Gun....came to nowt in the end though when Bond blew it up (and then gave Britt Ekland a good seeing to for good measure). |
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Chris.B wrote:
Stephen Tonkin wrote [...] I want to make it clear that I was not objecting to the announcement on this NG (which I thought was entirely appropriate), [rant snipped] One question: Which bit of the above (that you quoted!) are you pretending not to understand? Best, Stephen -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://www.astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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Chris.B wrote:
Stephen Tonkin wrote [...] I want to make it clear that I was not objecting to the announcement on this NG (which I thought was entirely appropriate), [rant snipped] One question: Which bit of the above (that you quoted!) are you pretending not to understand? Best, Stephen -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://www.astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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Mark McIntyre wrote in message . ..
On 12 Jul 2003 00:46:38 -0700, in uk.sci.astronomy , (Chris.B) wrote: Sorry, Chris, but in my book ANY unsolicited email from people I don't know*, whether associated with something I'm interested in or not, is spam,especially if it has a commercial angle of some sort. You may welcome email from all and sundry so long as it is relevant to your interests. I'm a more private person, and regard my email addy as for my use and not for unknown persons to send me commercial or semicommercial mail to. I wish his website the absolute best for the future. I do too. * fwiw, "know" includes people I know virtually. eg. names I am familiar with via uksa, clc, ucsm and other sources. On the other hand, unrequested commercial mail from even these people would solicit a warning followed if the spam were repeated by a report to their ISP. -- Mark McIntyre Spam stinks, but sorry chaps, I'm simply shocked that you all take a private e-mail. From a fellow amateur & the provider of a free astro-kit ads service so seriously. Had there been a grain of commercialism then by all means cry foul. As loudly as you like! But this chap is offering a free service that surely benefits us all. I see nothing for sale except kit by other amateurs. No advertising whatesoever except for the astro equipment ads themselves. No implied message that might be construed as remotely commercial. The guy is putting up a website at (what I presume is) his own expense. Not least in time. Give him a break. Give me a break! g Chris.B |
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Mark McIntyre wrote in message . ..
On 12 Jul 2003 00:46:38 -0700, in uk.sci.astronomy , (Chris.B) wrote: Sorry, Chris, but in my book ANY unsolicited email from people I don't know*, whether associated with something I'm interested in or not, is spam,especially if it has a commercial angle of some sort. You may welcome email from all and sundry so long as it is relevant to your interests. I'm a more private person, and regard my email addy as for my use and not for unknown persons to send me commercial or semicommercial mail to. I wish his website the absolute best for the future. I do too. * fwiw, "know" includes people I know virtually. eg. names I am familiar with via uksa, clc, ucsm and other sources. On the other hand, unrequested commercial mail from even these people would solicit a warning followed if the spam were repeated by a report to their ISP. -- Mark McIntyre Spam stinks, but sorry chaps, I'm simply shocked that you all take a private e-mail. From a fellow amateur & the provider of a free astro-kit ads service so seriously. Had there been a grain of commercialism then by all means cry foul. As loudly as you like! But this chap is offering a free service that surely benefits us all. I see nothing for sale except kit by other amateurs. No advertising whatesoever except for the astro equipment ads themselves. No implied message that might be construed as remotely commercial. The guy is putting up a website at (what I presume is) his own expense. Not least in time. Give him a break. Give me a break! g Chris.B |
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Geoff Smith wrote:
I would say that changing emails addresses to include "at" and "dot" , "nospam" etc is really to prevent these automatic email trawling companies and mass spamming lists while leaving the address available for real people to use by simply removing the obvious bits that are added in. All that is correct, but I think it's missing something: "...in order that they may respond to the advert." Without that last bit, it is effectively a statement that anyone anywhere can un-mung it for any purpose. I think its harsh to say that someone has no right to mail you by removing these. I don't think it's a matter of "rights" but of courtesy. In the same way that people get (rightly, IMHO) miffed if they advertise in the paper "Free Ads" and other ad-mags phone up wanting them to place the same advert in their rag, this is just the modern equivalent of the same thing (IMHO, of course). Did the guy bother to ask Chris H if he minded if his resource was troffed for email addresses for targeted spam? (It may well be that Chris doesn't mind.) Why, if he wanted to be open and above board, did he not just place an ad on UKAstroAds advertising his alternative site? And I still haven't had an answer to the question I asked earlier, which is what he hoped to gain by spamming by email people who would see his ad in this NG. One other thing: Someone has suggested that this is a "new site". It isn't. It's been around for a couple of years -- it's been in my bookmarks for about 18 months. Best, Stephen -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://www.astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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Geoff Smith wrote:
I would say that changing emails addresses to include "at" and "dot" , "nospam" etc is really to prevent these automatic email trawling companies and mass spamming lists while leaving the address available for real people to use by simply removing the obvious bits that are added in. All that is correct, but I think it's missing something: "...in order that they may respond to the advert." Without that last bit, it is effectively a statement that anyone anywhere can un-mung it for any purpose. I think its harsh to say that someone has no right to mail you by removing these. I don't think it's a matter of "rights" but of courtesy. In the same way that people get (rightly, IMHO) miffed if they advertise in the paper "Free Ads" and other ad-mags phone up wanting them to place the same advert in their rag, this is just the modern equivalent of the same thing (IMHO, of course). Did the guy bother to ask Chris H if he minded if his resource was troffed for email addresses for targeted spam? (It may well be that Chris doesn't mind.) Why, if he wanted to be open and above board, did he not just place an ad on UKAstroAds advertising his alternative site? And I still haven't had an answer to the question I asked earlier, which is what he hoped to gain by spamming by email people who would see his ad in this NG. One other thing: Someone has suggested that this is a "new site". It isn't. It's been around for a couple of years -- it's been in my bookmarks for about 18 months. Best, Stephen -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://www.astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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Did the guy bother to ask Chris H if he minded
if his resource was troffed for email addresses for targeted spam? (It may well be that Chris doesn't mind.) Why, if he wanted to be open and above board, did he not just place an ad on UKAstroAds advertising his alternative site? I agree with you . Chris has done a great job over the years and it was bad form to contact his advertisers in that fasion. |
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