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Old March 9th 14, 01:18 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Seems the Cassini mission will be killed in 2015 b
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Old March 9th 14, 02:27 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 06:18:25 -0700 (PDT), RichA
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Seems the Cassini mission will be killed in 2015 b


It's already operating well past its original end-of-life. And it
isn't a purely NASA mission. The ESA can opt to continue with the
extended mission if they choose.

Extended missions are always subject to continued financing outside
the original budget. If Congress doesn't allocate sufficient funding,
NASA has to adjust its priorities. As we now know with a high degree
of certainty that the world is in deep trouble due to climate change,
and part of NASA's primary charter is studying the Earth and its
climate, it makes good sense they should shift what resources they
have to that. Understanding the Earth in more detail has become the
most important thing NASA can do.
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Old March 9th 14, 06:49 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sunday, March 9, 2014 2:27:18 PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 06:18:25 -0700 (PDT), RichA

wrote:



Seems the Cassini mission will be killed in 2015 b




It's already operating well past its original end-of-life. And it

isn't a purely NASA mission. The ESA can opt to continue with the

extended mission if they choose.



Extended missions are always subject to continued financing outside

the original budget. If Congress doesn't allocate sufficient funding,

NASA has to adjust its priorities. As we now know with a high degree

of certainty that the world is in deep trouble due to climate change,

and part of NASA's primary charter is studying the Earth and its

climate, it makes good sense they should shift what resources they

have to that. Understanding the Earth in more detail has become the

most important thing NASA can do.


So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -

"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East) around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4 days per year." NASA

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html

I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.

I don't care if these guys stonewall and continue to conjure fiction in order to get some sort of social reaction based on their idea of climate but when a society can't mesh one rotation with all the effects within a 24 hour day,and that is exactly what that nonsensical 366 1/4 rotation figure represents,then indeed people in our era are in deep trouble,nothing to do with climate but with the dominance of a cult.





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Old March 9th 14, 07:27 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sunday, March 9, 2014 11:49:06 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

I don't care if these guys stonewall and continue to conjure fiction in order to get some sort of social reaction based on their idea of climate but when a society can't mesh one rotation with all the effects within a 24 hour day,and that is exactly what that nonsensical 366 1/4 rotation figure represents,then indeed people in our era are in deep trouble,nothing to do with climate but with the dominance of a cult.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...06365668_n.jpg
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Old March 9th 14, 09:10 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:27:12 PM UTC, palsing wrote:
On Sunday, March 9, 2014 11:49:06 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:



I don't care if these guys stonewall and continue to conjure fiction in order to get some sort of social reaction based on their idea of climate but when a society can't mesh one rotation with all the effects within a 24 hour day,and that is exactly what that nonsensical 366 1/4 rotation figure represents,then indeed people in our era are in deep trouble,nothing to do with climate but with the dominance of a cult.




https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...06365668_n.jpg


If the people at NASA wish to study the Earth then they had better come to understand the architecture of the 24 hour system and the Lat/long system which exploits the terms 'average' with its partner 'constant' within the framework of references which fix the planet's orbital location in space and the number of actual rotations that fit inside an orbital circumference.

The definitive explanation has been processed here over the last dozen years but is always open to improvement as it brings in new tools and more expansive historical and technical details in order to escape the celestial sphere quagmire created by taking conceptual shortcuts.

Sci.astro.amateur has been an open source conduit but as far as I am concerned the changes have not come quick enough in the overall scheme of things or in the different sections such as climate,evolutionary geology and so on..



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Old March 11th 14, 02:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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oriel36 wrote:

So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -

"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but
there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a
day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the
average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the
course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East)
around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we
are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards
from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4
days per year." NASA

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html

I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where
the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare
of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first
appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour
amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an
entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.


Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily
log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.

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Old March 11th 14, 03:19 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:53:23 PM UTC, Don Kuenz wrote:
oriel36 wrote:



So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -




"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but


there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a


day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the


average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the


course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East)


around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we


are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards


from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4


days per year." NASA




http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html




I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where


the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare


of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first


appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour


amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an


entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.




Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily

log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.


Yes,sure, it is thousands of years old and the only accurate one presently -

" on account of the precession of the rising of Sirius by one day in the course of 4 years.. therefore it shall be, that the year of 360 days and the 5 days added to their end, so one day shall be from this day after every 4 years added to the 5 epagomenae before the New Year" Canopus Decree

The orbital position of the Earth is fixed in space by that observation as Sirius runs parallel with the ecliptic motion of our planet and temporarily vanishes from sight as it becomes lost in the glare of the central Sun.

The endeavor of the people of NASA and any other organization or individual is to give people back the principles which tie timekeeping to planetary dynamics.People are not unthinking robots but can enjoy the spectacle as it is handed to them as they observe the motion of Sirius over an extended period from the surface or a graphic showing it from a distance. The sequence of images show Elnath,Castor and Pollox disappear behind the Sun and the orbital motion of the Earth that causes the spectacle -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=MdFrE7hWj0A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeQwYrfmvoQ

This forum is the first to see the architecture of timekeeping and planetary dynamics mesh and separate as it truly exists and using tools that the flawed empiricists never had. Time to act like people who live in the 21st century instead of being stuck in the late 17th.









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Old March 11th 14, 05:23 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Don Kuenz wrote:
oriel36 wrote:

So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -

"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but
there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a
day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the
average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the
course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East)
around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we
are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards
from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4
days per year." NASA

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html

I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where
the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare
of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first
appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour
amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an
entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.


Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily
log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.

--

Don Kuenz


download Sellarium.
Its free

http://www.stellarium.org/en_GB/
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Old March 11th 14, 07:24 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Mike Collins wrote:
Don Kuenz wrote:


Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily
log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.


download Sellarium.
Its free

http://www.stellarium.org/en_GB/


Thank you Mike. The BSD port of stellarium is one of the easier packages
to install. It runs without a hitch and its database even came preloaded
with data for my relatively small home town.

It's night vision (red) feature ought to prove quite useful on a laptop
in the field. Just as soon as it warms up a bit more I intend to take
my Orion EQ2-mounted-Bausch & Lomb-Pentax contraption out to the field
for a little amateur astronomy.

Thank you again.

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Old March 11th 14, 10:04 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:23:34 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
Don Kuenz wrote:

oriel36 wrote:




So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -




"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but


there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a


day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the


average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the


course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East)


around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we


are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards


from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4


days per year." NASA




http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html




I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where


the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare


of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first


appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour


amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an


entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.




Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily


log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.




--




Don Kuenz




download Sellarium.

Its free



http://www.stellarium.org/en_GB/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x5pbI5E3P4

Just another homocentric timekeeping average program with no appreciation of the apparent motion of the constellations behind the central Sun as the Earth orbits along the ecliptic plane -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeQwYrfmvoQ

Grown men mesmerized by the constellations moving in stellar circumpolar motion and unable to make the majestic distinctions the great astronomers once made.

No need to rail against NASA who is overrun by celestial sphere addicts and have managed to get the taxpayers to pay for the upkeep of a cult that continues to indoctrinate students. That chain of indoctrination has now been broken.









 




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