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Simultaneous Arrival of Optical Signals and Gravitational Waves inLIGO's GW170817 Experiment



 
 
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Old November 10th 18, 11:07 AM posted to sci.astro
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That (some, not all) gravitational waves travel at the speed of light was Eddington's 1922 fabrication (nothing to do with Einstein's general relativity): http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.o...6/268.full.pdf

Also, the simultaneous arrival of optical signals and gravitational waves (if the latter exist; actually they don't) in LIGO's GW170817 experiment can only be discussed if the gravitational waves experience Shapiro delay, which is nonsense of course. (Does Einstein's relativity predict Shapiro delay for gravitational waves?)

Conclusion: LIGO conspirators obviously FAKED the simultaneous arrival of optical signals and gravitational waves in the GW170817 (neutron-star-collision) experiment.

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Gravitational waves (ripples in spacetime) don't exist because spacetime doesn't exist, and spacetime doesn't exist because the speed of light is VARIABLE:

Stationary light source; moving receiver: http://www.einstein-online.info/imag...ector_blue.gif

(Website: http://www.einstein-online.info/spotlights/doppler.html)

The speed of the light pulses relative to the source is

c = df

where d is the distance between the pulses and f is the frequency measured by the source. The speed of the pulses relative to the receiver is

c'= df' c

where f' f is the frequency measured by the receiver.

In Einstein's schizophrenic world scientists repudiate spacetime but worship the underlying premise, Einstein's false constant-speed-of-light postulate, and LIGO's "ripples in spacetime":

Nima Arkani-Hamed (06:09): "Almost all of us believe that space-time doesn't really exist, space-time is doomed and has to be replaced..." https://youtu.be/U47kyV4TMnE?t=369

"We've known for decades that space-time is doomed," says Arkani-Hamed. "We know it is not there in the next version of physics." http://discovermagazine.com/2014/jan...ure-of-physics

Nobel Laureate David Gross observed, "Everyone in string theory is convinced...that spacetime is doomed. But we don't know what it's replaced by." https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26563

What scientific idea is ready for retirement? Steve Giddings: "Spacetime. Physics has always been regarded as playing out on an underlying stage of space and time. Special relativity joined these into spacetime... [...] The apparent need to retire classical spacetime as a fundamental concept is profound..." https://www.edge.org/response-detail/25477

"Rethinking Einstein: The end of space-time. [...] Horava, who is at the University of California, Berkeley, wants to rip this fabric apart and set time and space free from one another in order to come up with a unified theory that reconciles the disparate worlds of quantum mechanics and gravity - one the most pressing challenges to modern physics." https://www.newscientist.com/article...of-space-time/

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Old November 12th 18, 10:03 AM posted to sci.astro
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LIGO conspirators don't detect anything - they FAKE gravitational waves. There were rehearsals - secretly injecting false signals, informing the world about a great discovery, studying the reactions, finally fixing noticed Achilles heels. The dress rehearsal occurred in 2010:

"On September 16, 2010, a false signal - a so-called "blind injection" - was fed into both the Ligo and Virgo systems as part of an exercise to "test .... detection capabilities". At the time, the vast majority of the hundreds of scientists working on the equipment had no idea that they were being fed a dummy signal. The truth was not revealed until March the following year, by which time several papers about the supposed sensational discovery of gravitational waves were poised for publication. "While the scientists were disappointed that the discovery was not real, the success of the analysis was a compelling demonstration of the collaboration's readiness to detect gravitational waves," Ligo reported at the time. But take a look at the visualisation of the faked signal, says Dr Kiriushcheva, and compare it to the image apparently showing the collision of the twin black holes, seen on the second page of the recently-published discovery paper. "They look very, very similar," she says. "It means that they knew exactly what they wanted to get and this is suspicious for us: when you know what you want to get from science, usually you can get it." The apparent similarity is more curious because the faked event purported to show not a collision between two black holes, but the gravitational waves created by a neutron star spiralling into a black hole. The signals appear so similar, in fact, that Dr Kiriushcheva questions whether the "true" signal might actually have been an echo of the fake, "stored in the computer system from when they turned off the equipment five years before"." http://www.thenational.ae/arts-life/...s-collide#full

LIGO's 2010 dress rehearsal: A few "expert administrators" injected a false signal and deceived everybody, misled astronomers into wasting time and money on the fake, and, gloriously, "this became particularly useful starting in September 2015":

"...a blind injection test where only a select few expert administrators are able to put a fake signal in the data, maintaining strict confidentiality.. They did just that in the early morning hours of 16 September 2010. Automated data analyses alerted us to an extraordinary event within eight minutes of data collection, and within 45 minutes we had our astronomer colleagues with optical telescopes imaging the area we estimated the gravitational wave to have come from. Since it came from the direction of the Canis Major constellation, this event picked up the nickname of the "Big Dog Event". For months we worked on vetting this candidate gravitational wave detection, extracting parameters that described the source, and even wrote a paper. Finally, at the next collaboration meeting, after all the work had been cataloged and we voted unanimously to publish the paper the next day. However, it was revealed immediately after the vote to be an injection and that our estimated parameters for the simulated source were accurate. Again, there was no detection, but we learned a great deal about our abilities to know when we detected a gravitational wave and that we can do science with the data.. This became particularly useful starting in September 2015." https://www..researchgate.net/blog/p...-not-a-failure

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