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Old February 13th 12, 02:45 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default NASA considers outpost beyond moon's far side

"NASA is pressing forward on assessing the value of a "human-tended
waypoint" near the far side of the moon — one that would embrace
international partnerships as well as commercial and academic
participation,
Space.com has learned.

According to a Feb. 3 memo from William Gerstenmaier, NASA's
associate
administrator for human exploration and operations, a team is being
formed
to develop a cohesive plan for exploring a spot in space known as the
Earth-
moon libration point 2 (EML-2)."

See:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46354336#.Tzh437QvjIU
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Old February 13th 12, 06:34 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default NASA considers outpost beyond moon's far side

On Feb 12, 6:45*pm, wrote:
"NASA is pressing forward on assessing the value of a "human-tended
waypoint" near the far side of the moon — one that would embrace
international partnerships as well as commercial and academic
participation,
Space.com has learned.

According to a Feb. 3 memo from William Gerstenmaier, NASA's
associate
administrator for human exploration and operations, a team is being
formed
to develop a cohesive plan for exploring a spot in space known as the
Earth-
moon libration point 2 (EML-2)."

See:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46354336#.Tzh437QvjIU


Our NASA can't afford to consider squat. President BHO should have
fired every last one of our NASA pricks as of day-one.
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Old February 13th 12, 03:24 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default NASA considers outpost beyond moon's far side


NASA's
associate
administrator for human exploration and operations, a team is being
formed
to develop a cohesive plan for exploring a spot in space known as the
Earth-
moon libration point 2 (EML-2)."


Could someone please explain to me how you "explore" a spot in space? But,
we would save money on sample return containers.

Several years ago we were in the lounge on a cruise ship. There was an
announcement - We are about to cross the Arctic Circle. Three women jumped
up and raced to the window, almost knocking people over, to get a look at
it. They were disappointed that they missed it.


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Old February 13th 12, 04:53 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default NASA considers outpost beyond moon's far side

At least with this plan, were not struggling to emerge from one gravity well
just so that we may fall down into another....

Dave
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Old February 13th 12, 11:13 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default NASA considers outpost beyond moon's far side

On Feb 13, 7:24*am, "Val Kraut" wrote:
NASA's

associate administrator for human exploration and operations,
a team is being formed
to develop a cohesive plan for exploring a spot in space known
as the Earth-moon libration point 2 (EML-2)."


Could someone please explain to me how you "explore" a spot in space? But,
we would save money on sample return containers.

Several years ago we were in the lounge on a cruise ship. There was an
announcement - We are about to cross the Arctic Circle. Three women jumped
up and raced to the window, almost knocking people over, to get a look at
it. They were disappointed that they missed it.


A tethered OASIS/outpost/gateway offers all sorts of nifty advantages.

That moon is worth perhaps a trillion dollars per month to us, or to
whomever gets control of it. Having the Earth-moon L1 (perhaps more
so than the farside L2) as a command post would be extremely valuable,
and I'm not even talking about astronomy values. The farside L2 would
be ideal for astronomy and space communications, but not much good for
anything else.

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Old February 14th 12, 01:04 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default NASA considers outpost beyond moon's far side

On Feb 12, 10:34*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 12, 6:45*pm, wrote:









"NASA is pressing forward on assessing the value of a "human-tended
waypoint" near the far side of the moon — one that would embrace
international partnerships as well as commercial and academic
participation,
Space.com has learned.


According to a Feb. 3 memo from William Gerstenmaier, NASA's
associate
administrator for human exploration and operations, a team is being
formed
to develop a cohesive plan for exploring a spot in space known as the
Earth-
moon libration point 2 (EML-2)."


See:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46354336#.Tzh437QvjIU


Our NASA can't afford to consider squat. *President BHO should have
fired every last one of our NASA pricks as of day-one.


The nations needs to rebuild its industrial base so as to better
afford such projects. And the poor man (the majority now)
who aren't going to get ahead
aren't going to care or generate the resources needed to such a
project. The ultra-rich really don't care as they are too busy
doing drugs (both RX and illegal) and banging high class hookers.

The positions use seems limited to its view and
its distance. Perhaps it could used to assemble
a multiple part craft away from certain nations that might take pot
shots at
a defenseless vessel.
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Old February 15th 12, 08:23 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default NASA considers outpost beyond moon's far side

On Feb 13, 5:04*pm, |"
wrote:
On Feb 12, 10:34*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Feb 12, 6:45*pm, wrote:


"NASA is pressing forward on assessing the value of a "human-tended
waypoint" near the far side of the moon — one that would embrace
international partnerships as well as commercial and academic
participation,
Space.com has learned.


According to a Feb. 3 memo from William Gerstenmaier, NASA's
associate
administrator for human exploration and operations, a team is being
formed
to develop a cohesive plan for exploring a spot in space known as the
Earth-
moon libration point 2 (EML-2)."


See:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46354336#.Tzh437QvjIU


Our NASA can't afford to consider squat. *President BHO should have
fired every last one of our NASA pricks as of day-one.


The nations needs to rebuild its industrial base so as to better
afford such projects. And the poor man (the majority now)
who aren't going to get ahead
aren't going to care or generate the resources needed to such a
project. The ultra-rich really don't care as they are too busy
doing drugs (both RX and illegal) and banging high class hookers.

The positions use seems limited to its view and
its distance. Perhaps it could used to assemble
a multiple part craft away from certain nations that might
take pot shots at a defenseless vessel.


$100 billion per month really isn't all that much ($14.28/person).

I know of many that spend twice that much on coffee per day, not to
mention whatever cosmetics, pharmaceuticals, sports, junk-foods,
entertainment, travel and just in tips alone.

How else (other than perpetual wars) are you going to create 100
million jobs?

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Old February 15th 12, 08:24 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default NASA considers outpost beyond moon's far side

On Feb 13, 8:53*am, David Spain wrote:
At least with this plan, were not struggling to emerge from one gravity well
just so that we may fall down into another....

Dave


Actually the Earth-moon L1 (aka Selene L1) is a whole lot better for
us.
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Old February 15th 12, 08:30 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default NASA considers outpost beyond moon's far side

On Feb 15, 7:01*am, David Spain wrote:
wrote:
"NASA is pressing forward on assessing the value of a "human-tended
waypoint" near the far side of the moon — one that would embrace
international partnerships as well as commercial and academic
participation,
Space.com has learned.


I would settle for an "autonomous waypoint" at L2 to serve as a lunar
'dark-side' comms relay to sats at L4 or L5.

To wit, it would not be a bad idea to launch twin L4 & L5 "environmental"
explorer sats just to make sure we can check our assumptions about these areas.

Isn't there is a chance of elevated micro-asteroid debris within these areas
because of their inherit gravitational stability?

Dave


According to all things NASA/Apollo, the environment around our naked
moon is passive and inert, with less chance of encountering any bits
of meteors than here on Earth. Apparently whatever gravity or wide
open exposure to whatever is passing through is a non-issue. It's
even cold on the sunny side while coasting between the moon and Earth,
because A-13 damn near froze to death.

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