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"Year of Our Lord" in the news
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The perpetual calendar
On Apr 4, 8:03*pm, Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
A more logical name for the A.D. (or C.E.) calendar is "Gregorian" since Pope Gregory sponsored the calendar reform that replace the previous Julian calendar. Although Gregory was in part motivated by religious factors, he also recognized that the Julian calendar simply did not work and was not accurate for keeping time in the Earth-Sun system. Saying Gregorian calendar should not be any more offensive than saying, for example, Celsius temperature scale, Dewey decimal system or Richter scale, all of which are named for ordinary human beings associated closely with them. Thus, we might say A.H. for a date strictly related to Islam and A.D. for a date strictly relate to Christianity but simply G. or A.G. for a date on the Gregorian calendar that is not used almost universally for everyday timekeeping. Except that Mr. Gregory had nothing to do with determining the number of the year. |
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"Year of Our Lord" in the news
On Apr 13, 6:14*pm, Oliver Cromm wrote:
* Evan Kirshenbaum: tony cooper writes: My diploma from Northwestern University (Evanston, IL, USA) has "In the year of our Lord" on it. According to Stanford, I graduated * * on the Fourteenth Day of June in the Year One Thousand Nine * * Hundred and Eighty-Seven the Two Hundred-Eleventh Year of the * * Republic and the Ninety-Sixth Academic Year of the University. (sic on the lack of commas). * * In my dentist's office I saw that his was in Latin (from McGill University in Montreal). I find it amusing at times how North Americans hold on to that traditional pompousness. Reminds me of their feudal taste in furniture, all while seeing themselves as leading modern democracy. On my diplomas from both Germany and Japan, the year is of course written in numbers, no Latin (or classical Chinese) is used, and there's no reference to religion, the Tenno, or anything of that general nature. My Cornell diploma is written in English. What "feudal taste in furniture"? |
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* Tak To:
Oliver Cromm wrote: * Evan Kirshenbaum: tony cooper writes: My diploma from Northwestern University (Evanston, IL, USA) has "In the year of our Lord" on it. According to Stanford, I graduated on the Fourteenth Day of June in the Year One Thousand Nine Hundred and Eighty-Seven the Two Hundred-Eleventh Year of the Republic and the Ninety-Sixth Academic Year of the University. (sic on the lack of commas). In my dentist's office I saw that his was in Latin (from McGill University in Montreal). I find it amusing at times how North Americans hold on to that traditional pompousness. Reminds me of their feudal taste in furniture, all while seeing themselves as leading modern democracy. On my diplomas from both Germany and Japan, the year is of course written in numbers, no Latin (or classical Chinese) is used, and there's no reference to religion, the Tenno, or anything of that general nature. Your diploma from Japan is in Japanese, but refers to the year with just numbers and no reignal name?? Hm, sounds unlikely. Guess I should have checked on that one before sending it. No, the date is in the Japanese format, so there's an indirect reference to the tenno. -- GOGELICH,gogelig, (...) 'fröhlich, lustig, ausgelassen' GRIMM, Deutsches Wörterbuch |
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On Apr 10, 8:19*am, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
On Apr 4, 8:03*pm, Yusuf B Gursey wrote: A more logical name for the A.D. (or C.E.) calendar is "Gregorian" since Pope Gregory sponsored the calendar reform that replace the previous Julian calendar. Although Gregory was in part motivated by religious factors, he also recognized that the Julian calendar simply did not work and was not accurate for keeping time in the Earth-Sun system. Saying Gregorian calendar should not be any more offensive than saying, for example, Celsius temperature scale, Dewey decimal system or Richter scale, all of which are named for ordinary human beings associated closely with them. Thus, we might say A.H. for a date strictly related to Islam and A.D. for a date strictly relate to Christianity but simply G. or A.G. for a date on the Gregorian calendar that is not used almost universally for everyday timekeeping. Except that Mr. Gregory had nothing to do with determining the number of the year. I agree, that was the weak point of poster I quoted. |
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Every calendar I have seen in the United States starts on Sunday.
From which statement we can deduce that (a) Mrs Doe is in the United States but simply hasn't seen all that many different calendars, or (b) Mrs Doe has seen calendars not starting the week with Sunday but didn't see them in the United States, or (c) Mrs Doe isn't in the United States in the first place and has seen zero calendars there. |
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WIWAL, the week clearly started on Saturday...
Lawyers start the week on Saturday? all you had to do to prove it was to look at TV Guide...what's more, each day began at 6:00am, [...] This is also true for non-lawyers reading TV listings. Now (strangely given that *all* stations stay on the air round the clock if only to air infomercials)TV Guide has decided [...] This, however, is not true. In these days of digital television, some stations go off the air entirely at certain times of day and their bandwidth is taken up by other stations. |
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 15:15:46 +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
WIWAL, the week clearly started on Saturday... Lawyers start the week on Saturday? all you had to do to prove it was to look at TV Guide...what's more, each day began at 6:00am, [...] This is also true for non-lawyers reading TV listings. Now (strangely given that *all* stations stay on the air round the clock if only to air infomercials)TV Guide has decided [...] This, however, is not true. In these days of digital television, some stations go off the air entirely at certain times of day and their bandwidth is taken up by other stations. If you are talking about over-the-air TV stations in the same service area, I'd like some specific examples of this, perhaps an FCC channel assignment chart. If you are referring to digital sub-channels, well, that's a different thing, and leads to the question of how you define a "station". Some radio stations in the US do leave the air and are replaced by other stations on the same frequency. And some radio stations are daylight-only stations, leaving the air at sunset. A local example is the University of Arizona's public AM station, KUAZ-AM. It's a 25 kilowatt station, which is quite powerful for a local station, and would interfere with other stations on the same frequency around the country when night time skip begins. Most of the powerful AM stations broadcast at 50 kilowatts and are so-called "clear channel" stations so there are no other stations on the same frequency. -- Dave Hatunen: Free Baja Arizona |
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Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
WIWAL, the week clearly started on Saturday... Lawyers start the week on Saturday? Lockheed Martin payroll accounting weeks start on Saturdays, unless they have changed things since I retired. -- Skitt (SF Bay Area) http://come.to/skitt |
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"Skitt" wrote in message ... Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: WIWAL, the week clearly started on Saturday... Lawyers start the week on Saturday? Lockheed Martin payroll accounting weeks start on Saturdays, unless they have changed things since I retired. County pay period ended Thursday, 11:59pm and a bit; during the era of hand-entered and -verified hours the cards were "turned in" at noon on Thursday. Twelve hours of conjecture, if not deceit. -- Frank ess |
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