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Old August 25th 14, 03:32 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/augus.../#.U_pCmsVdVEA
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Old August 25th 14, 11:45 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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RichA wrote:
http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/augus.../#.U_pCmsVdVEA


As somebody who thinks there is no global warning you should be glad that
more evidence is being gathered which may prove you right.
..
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Old August 25th 14, 12:13 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, August 25, 2014 11:45:32 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
RichA wrote:

http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/augus.../#.U_pCmsVdVEA




As somebody who thinks there is no global warning you should be glad that

more evidence is being gathered which may prove you right.



You are a bunch of impostors in all respects where terrestrial sciences are involved and linked to astronomy.

What can be said for a bunch of dummies who suddenly decided it was a good idea to 'define' a planet outside the context of its original designation where they were seen to move against the background field of stars -

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=planet

Within the last year there has been a new and spectacular addition to the explanation for those wandering motions where the motion of the inner planets against the background stars in one direction and then the other is resolved as a grandstand view.

You bunch of phonies tried to isolate a planet as an object outside the original context and ended up calling Pluto a 'dwarf planet' . When is a dwarf human being not a human being if that is the case ?. In short, your cult can't touch anything without destroying it.


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Old August 25th 14, 03:02 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:32:09 -0700 (PDT), RichA
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http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/augus.../#.U_pCmsVdVEA


Thank goodness there are a few places where my tax dollars are still
being put to good use!
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Old August 25th 14, 04:10 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, August 25, 2014 3:02:09 PM UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:32:09 -0700 (PDT), RichA

wrote:



http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/augus.../#.U_pCmsVdVEA




Thank goodness there are a few places where my tax dollars are still

being put to good use!


Try interpreting a daily temperature graph first Peterson and the response of the surface to one rotation each 24 hours. The last time I looked NASA asserted there are more rotations than 24 hour days -

" It is a fact not generally known that,owing to the difference between solar and sidereal time,the Earth rotates upon its axis once more often than there are days in the year" NASA /Harvard

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1904PA.....12..649B

It is a fact not generally known that the same empiricists screaming at humanity that they need to control the planet's temperature like a thermostat can't even correlate daily temperature fluctuations with a rotating planet.

Global warming is indeed a problem - the fact that the surface warms and cools within a 24 hour period due to a rotating planet and in the dozen years I haven't seen one person capable of extending the correlation to the extra rotation after 4 cycles of 365 days which keeps the Earth roughly fixed to the same position in space using the number of rotations as a gauge.

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Old August 25th 14, 04:13 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, August 25, 2014 4:10:51 PM UTC+1, oriel36 wrote:
On Monday, August 25, 2014 3:02:09 PM UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:32:09 -0700 (PDT), RichA




wrote:








http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/augus.../#.U_pCmsVdVEA








Thank goodness there are a few places where my tax dollars are still




being put to good use!




Try interpreting a daily temperature graph first Peterson and the response of the surface to one rotation each 24 hours. The last time I looked NASA asserted there are more rotations than 24 hour days -



" It is a fact not generally known that,owing to the difference between solar and sidereal time,the Earth rotates upon its axis once more often than there are days in the year" NASA /Harvard



http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1904PA.....12..649B



It is a fact not generally known that the same empiricists screaming at humanity that they need to control the planet's temperature like a thermostat can't even correlate daily temperature fluctuations with a rotating planet.

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Old August 25th 14, 05:28 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, August 25, 2014 4:13:46 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

Within the last year there has been a new and spectacular addition to the explanation for those wandering motions where the motion of the inner planets against the background stars in one direction and then the other is resolved as a grandstand view.


There is no spectacular new addition to the explanation of retrograde motion, its very simple definition covers such motion for both superior and inferior planets just fine. Just because YOU had an a-ha moment of enlightenment does NOT mean that tens of thousands of others before you didn't understand this perfectly well.
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On Monday, August 25, 2014 5:28:58 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Monday, August 25, 2014 4:13:46 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:



Within the last year there has been a new and spectacular addition to the explanation for those wandering motions where the motion of the inner planets against the background stars in one direction and then the other is resolved as a grandstand view.




There is no spectacular new addition to the explanation of retrograde motion, its very simple definition covers such motion for both superior and inferior planets just fine. Just because YOU had an a-ha moment of enlightenment does NOT mean that tens of thousands of others before you didn't understand this perfectly well.


It is really an injustice that nobody else has come forward and realized what was needed to resolve inner planetary retrogrades as this insight is only really made possible through contemporary graphics and even though Galileo understood the principle of the motion of Venus via its phases, he was less certain as to its retrograde motion for a specific reason common to his contemporaries -

"Now what is said here of Jupiter is to be understood of Saturn and Mars also. In Saturn these retrogressions are somewhat more frequent than in Jupiter, because its motion is slower than Jupiter's, so that the Earth overtakes it in a shorter time. In Mars they are rarer, its motion being faster than that of Jupiter, so that the Earth spends more time in catching up with it. Next, as to Venus and Mercury, whose circles are included within that of the Earth, stoppings and retrograde motions appear in them also, due not to any motion that really exists in them, but to the annual motion of the Earth. This is acutely demonstrated by Copernicus . . " Galileo

The inner planetary retrograde resolution is spectacular as it modifies the view at the time of Copernicus regarding the Sun's motion through the Zodiac along the ecliptic plane and shifts the perspective to the annual motion of the stars along the same ecliptic plane thereby referring the motions of Venus and Mercury to the central Sun rather than the Earth -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFrE7hWj0A

From here it is easy to see that Venus swings out from behind the central Sun and in the opposite direction of the ecliptic motion of the stars and then turns in towards the front of the Sun and in the direction of the those stars hence retrogrades are a consequence of the planet's motion alone where the only inputs of the Earth's orbital motion are the line of sight observations of the stars as they are lost behind the glare of the central Sun -

http://www.masil-astro-imaging.com/S...age%20flat.jpg

This takes nothing away from the incomparable Galileo and his observations using a telescope at a time when both existed as a productive entity whereas today the tools allow for a more accurate view which partitions inner and outer retrogrades.

I would have imagined that a least a few people would have made themselves known and cooperated with a more dedicated expression of this insight as a visual narrative but then again there is always a lag in these things and they will eventually filter out into the wider world.






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Old August 26th 14, 02:54 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, August 25, 2014 12:45:03 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

It is really an injustice that nobody else has come forward and realized what was needed to resolve inner planetary retrogrades as this insight is only really made possible through contemporary graphics...


Not even close to being accurate. The retrograde motion of the inner planets, more accurately called 'inferior planets', has no need to be resolved, no new insight is required, it has been understood long before computer graphics existed. Computer graphics only help to explain it more easily, which is why it took you so very long to get the memo; the rest of us grasped the concept decades ago. It is only your monstrous Ego that claims you have 'discovered' something new and different... but you are just late to the party.

Alas, poor Gerald, you just don't know what you don't know...
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Old August 26th 14, 03:05 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, August 25, 2014 6:45:32 AM UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
RichA wrote:

http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/augus.../#.U_pCmsVdVEA




As somebody who thinks there is no global warning you should be glad that

more evidence is being gathered which may prove you right.

.


Actually, I don't say absolutely there is no warming. We're still coming off the last ice-age, so there has to be some. But it wasn't caused by man, anymore than any of the other warming and cooling periods the planet has experienced.
 




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