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"Private industry could be prepared to
go where NASA fears to tread and develop a spaceplane to replace the space shuttle and ferry crews to and from the International Space Station. But if industry succeeds, it will be thanks to decades of work by the space agency on lifting-body reentry vehicles." See: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...&channel=space |
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On 2/8/2011 2:50 PM, wrote:
"Private industry could be prepared to go where NASA fears to tread and develop a spaceplane to replace the space shuttle and ferry crews to and from the International Space Station. But if industry succeeds, it will be thanks to decades of work by the space agency on lifting-body reentry vehicles." I wish someone would point out that the HL-20 design was developed from a wind tunnel model NASA made from photos an Austrailian P-3 Orion took of the splashdown and recovery of the Soviet BOR-4 unmanned reentry vehicle in the Indian Ocean: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/bor4.htm http://www.astronautix.com/craft/hl20.htm We were always yelping about the damn Russians copying our designs; here's a case where just the reverse was the literal truth. Pat |
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Jeff Findley wrote:
Now, now, Pat! We don't want to admit that the US sometimes steals the best Russian ideas, do we? Can't we just let NASA quietly take all the credit (by not setting the record straight), just like they do for inventing Tang and velcro? ;-) ;-) Jeff And the microchip.... Dave |
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On 2/9/2011 2:10 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
There have been other such projects that looked more airplane-like. One started from the F-5 Tiger airframe. That was even shorter lived than Kistler. I still like Canadian Arrow and their V-2 - that at least _looked_ like a classic rocketship: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Arrow Passengers should dress in chrome silver spacesuits with bubble helmets. pat |
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(Pat Flannery) wrote:
On 2/8/2011 2:50 PM, wrote: But if industry succeeds, it will be thanks to decades of work by the space agency on lifting-body reentry vehicles." And not just the space agency... anybody else remember the Aeron 26? I wish someone would point out that the HL-20 design was developed from a wind tunnel model NASA made from photos an Austrailian P-3 Orion took of the splashdown and recovery of the Soviet BOR-4 unmanned reentry vehicle in the Indian Ocean: Sure, but the BOR-4 had the advantage of coming after the M2-F1/2/3, HL-10, X-24A/B, and the Space Shuttle... I wonder if the Russians had any photos of those. -- djb@ | Dan Birchall - Observation System Associate - Subaru Telescope. naoj | Views I express are my own, certainly not those of my employer. ..org | Oh wicked, bad, naughty, _evil_ Dan! He is a _naughty_ person. |
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On Feb 9, 5:53*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article tatelephone, says... I wish someone would point out that the HL-20 design was developed from a wind tunnel model NASA made from photos an Austrailian P-3 Orion took of the splashdown and recovery of the Soviet BOR-4 unmanned reentry vehicle in the Indian Ocean: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/bor4.htm http://www.astronautix.com/craft/hl20.htm We were always yelping about the damn Russians copying our designs; here's a case where just the reverse was the literal truth. Now, now, Pat! *We don't want to admit that the US sometimes steals the best Russian ideas, do we? *Can't we just let NASA quietly take all the credit (by not setting the record straight), just like they do for inventing Tang and velcro? *;-) *;-) Jeff -- " Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry Spencer 1/28/2011 Perhaps the first viable commercial spaceplanes for accessing ISS will have to come from China or India, because anything from William Mook isn't going to fly, and there's nothing viable that we can afford from NASA. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On 2/13/2011 4:49 AM, Dan Birchall wrote:
Sure, but the BOR-4 had the advantage of coming after the M2-F1/2/3, HL-10, X-24A/B, and the Space Shuttle... I wonder if the Russians had any photos of those. BOR-4 was a subscale offshoot of the Spiral Spaceplane design, which dated back to 1965: http://www.buran.ru/htm/str126.htm ....around the time we were building our lifting bodies, although the M2-F1 predated it. What interested NASA about the BOR-4 design was that the vehicle reentered inside of its own shockwave, which reduced reentry heating on the main body. Pat |
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