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Old April 22nd 08, 05:05 PM posted to sci.space.history
Alan Erskine[_2_]
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In 1968, Apollo 8 took the famous Earth Rise image; now the Japanese have
taken a much sharper image
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/img..._kaguya_02.jpg Shows an image
of Earth Rise taken by a Japanese probe called Kayuga
(http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/200...a_e.html#ref01)

The image quality beats the daylights out of those taken by Apollo 8 in
1968. The camera on the Kayuga is digital, whereas the cameras used by
Apollo were film. The technological changes in 40 years are incredible.

I found the link in sci.space.news which was posted by Andrew Yee.


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Old April 22nd 08, 06:19 PM posted to sci.space.history
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On Apr 22, 11:05 am, "Alan Erskine" wrote:
In 1968, Apollo 8 took the famous Earth Rise image; now the Japanese have
taken a much sharper imagehttp://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/img/20080411_kaguya_02.jpg Shows an image
of Earth Rise taken by a Japanese probe called Kayuga
(http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/200...a_e.html#ref01)

The image quality beats the daylights out of those taken by Apollo 8 in
1968. The camera on the Kayuga is digital, whereas the cameras used by
Apollo were film. The technological changes in 40 years are incredible.

I found the link in sci.space.news which was posted by Andrew Yee.


Will the same bunch that say we never went to the moon, now say this
proves there are 5 Earths?
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Old April 22nd 08, 10:10 PM posted to sci.space.history
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Why did JAXA revise/modify those images, so as to exclude the mineral
color saturation or natural hues of the physically dark moon, along
with such a colorful Earth rising in the very same FOV?
.. - Brad Guth

Alan Erskine wrote:
In 1968, Apollo 8 took the famous Earth Rise image; now the Japanese have
taken a much sharper image
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/img..._kaguya_02.jpg Shows an image
of Earth Rise taken by a Japanese probe called Kayuga
(http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/200...a_e.html#ref01)

The image quality beats the daylights out of those taken by Apollo 8 in
1968. The camera on the Kayuga is digital, whereas the cameras used by
Apollo were film. The technological changes in 40 years are incredible.

I found the link in sci.space.news which was posted by Andrew Yee.

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Old April 22nd 08, 11:38 PM posted to sci.space.history
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Alan Erskine wrote:
The image quality beats the daylights out of those taken by Apollo 8 in
1968. The camera on the Kayuga is digital, whereas the cameras used by
Apollo were film. The technological changes in 40 years are incredible.


Slick shots!
I found a whole pile of Earth-Moon images here, including a series very
similer to this from Zond 7:
http://danielmarin.blogspot.com/2007...-y-apollo.html

Pat
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Old April 23rd 08, 01:27 AM posted to sci.space.history
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:05:54 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
wrote:

In 1968, Apollo 8 took the famous Earth Rise image; now the Japanese have
taken a much sharper image
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/img..._kaguya_02.jpg


The Apollo 8 image is still better. Kayuga's Earth looks like a
Photoshop job.

Brian
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Old April 23rd 08, 03:02 AM posted to sci.space.history
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On Apr 22, 5:27 pm, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:05:54 GMT, "Alan Erskine"

wrote:
In 1968, Apollo 8 took the famous Earth Rise image; now the Japanese have
taken a much sharper image
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/img..._kaguya_02.jpg


The Apollo 8 image is still better. Kayuga's Earth looks like a
Photoshop job.

Brian


Besides, where did all the lunar worth of mineral hue or color
saturation go?

Why is their CCD dynamic range(DR) gotten so limited, as though
restricted to only a few db or limited contrast bits.

In the original JAXA color images, shortly before arriving at their
final orbital placement, the moon was looking as though quite a bluish/
purple item without any PhotoShop modifications.

Are the JAXA/Selene HDTV telephoto and wide angle cameras selectively
broken, so that moon related pixels are no longer capable of detecting
a given hue?
.. - Brad Guth
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Old April 23rd 08, 03:37 AM posted to sci.space.history
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"Brian Thorn" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:05:54 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
wrote:

In 1968, Apollo 8 took the famous Earth Rise image; now the Japanese have
taken a much sharper image
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/img..._kaguya_02.jpg


The Apollo 8 image is still better. Kayuga's Earth looks like a
Photoshop job.

Brian


Jesus Brian; don't say things like that! You know how CT is! ;-)


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Old April 23rd 08, 03:42 AM posted to sci.space.history
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Alan Erskine wrote:
The image quality beats the daylights out of those taken by Apollo 8 in
1968. The camera on the Kayuga is digital, whereas the cameras used by
Apollo were film. The technological changes in 40 years are incredible.


Slick shots!
I found a whole pile of Earth-Moon images here, including a series very
similer to this from Zond 7:
http://danielmarin.blogspot.com/2007...-y-apollo.html

Pat


I haven't seen Zond images before - great shots, but I like the one from
Clementine best - crisp and clear.
http://bp2.blogger.com/_b1AE8x4eLKI/...e_NEWCOLLA.jpg

And compare it to Lunar Orbiter 1:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_b1AE8x4eLKI/...1_h102_123.gif


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Old April 23rd 08, 01:56 PM posted to sci.space.history
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Alan Erskine wrote:
I haven't seen Zond images before - great shots, but I like the one from
Clementine best - crisp and clear.
http://bp2.blogger.com/_b1AE8x4eLKI/...e_NEWCOLLA.jpg

And compare it to Lunar Orbiter 1:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_b1AE8x4eLKI/...lo1_h102_123.g


I can't see any stars...those shots are FAKE! :-D

Pat
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Old April 23rd 08, 02:48 PM posted to sci.space.history
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"Brian Thorn" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:05:54 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
wrote:

In 1968, Apollo 8 took the famous Earth Rise image; now the Japanese have
taken a much sharper image
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2008/04/img..._kaguya_02.jpg


The Apollo 8 image is still better. Kayuga's Earth looks like a
Photoshop job.


My thought as well (and this was after I went to the site to see if there
were higher resolution versions of the new pictures).

In a lot of ways, a high end (large format) film camera is still superior to
a high end digital camera. The cameras carried by Apollo were actually very
good. Unfortunately, the astronauts were a far cry from professional
photographers, so it's not terribly surprising that the quality of many of
the photos is lacking.

However, the famous Apollo 8 earthrise photo is very good, all things
considered.

Jeff
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A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein


 




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