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Old February 28th 06, 09:49 AM posted to uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro.amateur
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Mark McIntyre wrote:

This is utter rubbish. The proof of physics is all around you, and
this post defines you as a troll or an idiot. You choose.


Sorry, I am not a priest and unable to help you. However, all I can do
for you at the moment:

Feyerabend Paul, "Against Method", # Paperback: 279 pages,Publisher:
Verso; 3rd, edition (September 1993), Language: English,ISBN:
0860916464

But do not take me serious I am just a troll and always willing to use
and apply your physics which you seemed to have proven true for the
rest of us in this world. Thanks.
Schneewittchen

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granite stone wrote:
I have re-written the article. Hope you understand it.



However, a peer-reviewed paper about the topic:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/np...4250 c6725884

==
Title:
On the Relation between the Solar Activity Cycle and the Solar Tidal
Force induced by the Planets
Authors:
Takahashi, Kozo
Journal:
Solar Physics, Vol. 3, p.598 (SoPh Homepage)
Publication Date:
00/1968
==

And then look for further references in the paper.

Go to your next university library and ask for the journal "Solar
Physics". Maybe I will find time for reading the article. Our
department is actually subscribed to "Solar Physics". But I am not sure
whether we have such old copies from 1968.

Troll,
Schneewittchen

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Hard luck Jon, looks like someone beat you to it (at least the tidal bit). Have a go at something
else, thankfully there's loads we don't know yet.

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granite stone wrote:
I have re-written the article. Hope you understand it.



However, a peer-reviewed paper about the topic:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/np...4250 c6725884

==
Title:
On the Relation between the Solar Activity Cycle and the Solar Tidal
Force induced by the Planets
Authors:
Takahashi, Kozo
Journal:
Solar Physics, Vol. 3, p.598 (SoPh Homepage)
Publication Date:
00/1968
==

And then look for further references in the paper.

Go to your next university library and ask for the journal "Solar
Physics". Maybe I will find time for reading the article. Our
department is actually subscribed to "Solar Physics". But I am not sure
whether we have such old copies from 1968.

Troll,
Schneewittchen



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Old March 1st 06, 12:05 AM posted to uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro.amateur
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On 28 Feb 2006 00:49:57 -0800, in uk.sci.astronomy , "Förster vom
Silberwald" wrote:


Mark McIntyre wrote:

This is utter rubbish. The proof of physics is all around you, and
this post defines you as a troll or an idiot. You choose.


Sorry, I am not a priest and unable to help you. However, all I can do
for you at the moment:


.... is send me a different message via private mail. If you have
something to say, say it in public where the discussion began.

You wrote
Let us bet: you has never written a scientific peer-reviewed paper.
Neither did you attend in any scientific meeting. All you can do:
reading popular books about the subject.


Humorous. For the record, I have an degree from Oxford university in
Phyisics (specialising in atomic and nuclear), and worked for several
years as a research assistant at the same university. I spent five of
that working towards a DPhil in cryogenic engineering, the rest
working on superconductivity. I confess that other than my thesis and
a couple of minor papers I've not had anything published. I'm not
Peter in disguise.

The worst what happend to this world: semi-educated retards like you
who think they have any proof.


I agree about the semi-educated retards.

Schneewittchen


(scientist for a living)


Though apparently not applying what you've learned here. Your moniker
also doesn't lend much credence. Fairytales?

But do not take me serious I am just a troll


No worries, I had to unkillfile this thread to respond to your private
mail, since I don't reply to unsolicited email. Its right back in the
bitbucket already.
Mark McIntyre
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Mark McIntyre wrote:

No worries, I had to unkillfile this thread to respond to your private
mail, since I don't reply to unsolicited email. Its right back in the
bitbucket already.


Hey: I ama troll and do not feed the trolls. However, I wrote you a
private email where I said you are just an idot. You were the one first
calling me names in public.

But let me suggest: write me your description of your experiment where
you prove that physics is right. And do not forget: head banging your
head into a wall is no proof for particles and matter.

That said.

Troll,
Schneewittchen

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granite stone wrote:
As the author of this article I don't regret what I said. In the
1920's scientist thought the universe was just the milky way
and all bright objects (other galaxies) were part of the milky way.
Can you believe it? Until Hubble proved that bright objects were far
away outside of the galaxy (1925), everyone did not know about galaxies
other than our own. So I don't see why I can not write here about why
the sun is hot or where magma comes from. I am well aware of Newton's
first law and if you know the mass of something you can work out the
energy. I stil think we should push the envelop and discover new
ideas. You are all stuck inside of a box.


New ideas are good, Jon. But even better are new ideas that conform with
physical reality.

The relative ignorance of astronomers 80 some years ago or whenever is
hardly a good reason to ignore what it known today.

There is more to study and learn now than ever before. Inventing
half-baked theories without endeavoring to understand today's knowledge
is hardly a path to greater enlightenment .. and, no surpise, will lead
to ridicule from those who have taken the time to achieve such
understanding.

Phil
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Hay Phil, if Jupitr is the reason the sun is hot ( Disreguarding the Nuke
reaction going on in it's center ) then can he give a reason why there are
clouds of dust and gas that don't have planets and yet they are millions of
degrees hot?

Hay, maybe I could sell him my oil well in Hawaii?


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granite stone wrote:
As the author of this article I don't regret what I said. In the
1920's scientist thought the universe was just the milky way
and all bright objects (other galaxies) were part of the milky way.
Can you believe it? Until Hubble proved that bright objects were far
away outside of the galaxy (1925), everyone did not know about galaxies
other than our own. So I don't see why I can not write here about why
the sun is hot or where magma comes from. I am well aware of Newton's
first law and if you know the mass of something you can work out the
energy. I stil think we should push the envelop and discover new
ideas. You are all stuck inside of a box.


New ideas are good, Jon. But even better are new ideas that conform with
physical reality.

The relative ignorance of astronomers 80 some years ago or whenever is
hardly a good reason to ignore what it known today.

There is more to study and learn now than ever before. Inventing
half-baked theories without endeavoring to understand today's knowledge is
hardly a path to greater enlightenment .. and, no surpise, will lead to
ridicule from those who have taken the time to achieve such understanding.

Phil



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Old March 4th 06, 01:16 AM posted to uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro.amateur
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Starlord wrote:
Hay Phil, if Jupitr is the reason the sun is hot ( Disreguarding the Nuke
reaction going on in it's center ) then can he give a reason why there are
clouds of dust and gas that don't have planets and yet they are millions of
degrees hot?

Hay, maybe I could sell him my oil well in Hawaii?




Maybe ... or perhaps other things
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Old March 4th 06, 08:20 AM posted to uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro.amateur
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Interesting ambiguity there. No, I cannot believe that the universe is just
the Milky Way! On a serious note, interactions between two astronomical
bodies affect the smaller one more than the larger one. Therefore if the
Sun's surface were hot due to Jupiter's influence, just think how much
hotter Jupiter's surface would be due to the Sun. Jupiter's isn't, so the
Sun's must be for some other reason.

"granite stone" wrote in message
ups.com...
As the author of this article I don't regret what I said. In the
1920's scientist thought the universe was just the milky way
and all bright objects (other galaxies) were part of the milky way.
Can you believe it? Until Hubble proved that bright objects were far
away outside of the galaxy (1925), everyone did not know about galaxies
other than our own. So I don't see why I can not write here about why
the sun is hot or where magma comes from. I am well aware of Newton's
first law and if you know the mass of something you can work out the
energy. I still think we should push the envelop and discover new
ideas. You are all stuck inside of a box.

Jon Riley
Toronto



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Old March 4th 06, 10:49 PM posted to uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro.amateur
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John Carruthers wrote:
Hard luck Jon, looks like someone beat you to it (at least the tidal bit). Have a go at something
else, thankfully there's loads we don't know yet.

snip

Word of advice: Never argue with an idiot, he will drag
you down to his level and beat you with experience... :-)
 




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