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Old December 12th 03, 11:32 AM
Franz Heymann
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Subject: A revolutionary propulsion system


We inform you of our the recent and decisive progress in a propulsion

system
SC2.12 finally alternative to rocketry because it was conceived in the

final
purpose of a propulsion system that can perform manned outposts in the

Moon
and Mars.

The PNNE (Propulsione Non Newtoniana Eletromagnetica) uses the
electromagnetic field as mass of reaction with reaction momentum p

greather
than p=E/c (E= electromagnetic energy , c= velocity of light).

PNNE therefore is distinguished from the chemical and ionic propulsion
(using mass of reaction) as well as the propulsion based on solar sail

i.e.
the photonic propulsion (which impulse cannot exceed p=E/c). Its primary
source of energy is of electric nature so SC2.12 is a propellanless
propulsion system.

One of the advantages of SC2.12 is that no reaction mass is used and that
the specific momentum is million times greather than the momentum of the
ionic motors (which have a specific impulse much greater one of the

chemical
rockets).

There is a videoclip in http://www.asps.it/nucleoin.htm


A fifty-fifty mix of gobbledegook and bull****.

Franz Heymann


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Old December 12th 03, 11:50 AM
Paul Blay
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"Franz Heymann" wrote ...

"asps" wrote in message

There is a videoclip in http://www.asps.it/nucleoin.htm


A fifty-fifty mix of gobbledegook and bull****.


Ah, but is it _non-Newtonian_ bull**** that can propel with
no loss of reaction mass?

Obviously asps has tapped into the fabric of usenet itself
where no matter how much bull**** is removed more will
always remain.

With such a dangerous method I can only pray there will
be no leaks.
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Old December 12th 03, 02:25 PM
David Robbins
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"asps" wrote in message
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"Paul Blay" ha scritto nel messaggio
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"Franz Heymann" wrote ...

"asps" wrote in message

There is a videoclip in http://www.asps.it/nucleoin.htm

A fifty-fifty mix of gobbledegook and bull****.


Ah, but is it _non-Newtonian_ bull**** that can propel with
no loss of reaction mass?

Obviously asps has tapped into the fabric of usenet itself
where no matter how much bull**** is removed more will
always remain.

With such a dangerous method I can only pray there will
be no leaks.


every human progress is accompanied with the **** ........




if it is so good then why are you still begging for investors instead of
rolling in money?


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Old December 13th 03, 12:39 PM
asps
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"David Robbins" ha scritto nel messaggio
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"asps" wrote in message
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"Paul Blay" ha scritto nel messaggio
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"Franz Heymann" wrote ...

"asps" wrote in message

There is a videoclip in http://www.asps.it/nucleoin.htm

A fifty-fifty mix of gobbledegook and bull****.

Ah, but is it _non-Newtonian_ bull**** that can propel with
no loss of reaction mass?

Obviously asps has tapped into the fabric of usenet itself
where no matter how much bull**** is removed more will
always remain.

With such a dangerous method I can only pray there will
be no leaks.


every human progress is accompanied with the **** ........




if it is so good then why are you still begging for investors instead of
rolling in money?


Since July 2002 , every 3 or 4 months , we have road shows wth italian
aerospace industries (and we have still) . The problem is the procedure
....... they want generally :

1) the know-how of PNN before they try to find who can pay Asps.
2) to be the only owner of pnn before they try to find who can pay Asps

We want at the same time and to avoid loss of know-how we have a procedure
to show SC2.12 in a closed box http://www.asps.it/propnn.htm (for safety no
patent at now)
Besides we want money only if SC2.12 is a revolution in space transport
system.

Against us work that the fact we are very small and PNN is simplew
incredible.
Several industries said ud that don't like PNN for the fact that is less
expensive than the rocketry. They said to us that PNN will be interesting if
italian goverment put in it the same money that put in rocketry.....


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Old December 13th 03, 02:56 PM
Paul F. Dietz
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asps wrote:

Since July 2002 , every 3 or 4 months , we have road shows wth italian
aerospace industries (and we have still) . The problem is the procedure
...... they want generally :

1) the know-how of PNN before they try to find who can pay Asps.
2) to be the only owner of pnn before they try to find who can pay Asps

We want at the same time and to avoid loss of know-how we have a procedure
to show SC2.12 in a closed box http://www.asps.it/propnn.htm (for safety no
patent at now)
Besides we want money only if SC2.12 is a revolution in space transport
system.


Suuuuuure you have.

You've been spamming this bull**** on usenet since 1996. It reeked then,
and it has not improved with age.

Your patent excuse is utterly ridiculous and contemptible.


Against us work that the fact we are very small and PNN is simplew
incredible.
Several industries said ud that don't like PNN for the fact that is less
expensive than the rocketry. They said to us that PNN will be interesting if
italian goverment put in it the same money that put in rocketry.....


The biggest thing working against you is the unfortunate fact it's
all a pile of steaming ****.

At least you got the 'incredible' (meaning: without credibility)
part right.


Paul

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Old December 13th 03, 05:29 PM
asps
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"Paul F. Dietz" ha scritto nel messaggio
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asps wrote:

Since July 2002 , every 3 or 4 months , we have road shows wth italian
aerospace industries (and we have still) . The problem is the procedure
...... they want generally :

1) the know-how of PNN before they try to find who can pay Asps.
2) to be the only owner of pnn before they try to find who can pay Asps

We want at the same time and to avoid loss of know-how we have a

procedure
to show SC2.12 in a closed box http://www.asps.it/propnn.htm (for safety

no
patent at now)
Besides we want money only if SC2.12 is a revolution in space transport
system.


Suuuuuure you have.

You've been spamming this bull**** on usenet since 1996. It reeked then,
and it has not improved with age.


please our "bull****" is updated since 1979 http://www.asps.it .........but
.....but only in 2001 we reach the goal of the super**** i.e. what is the
ruin of "carthago" scientists as you are, that are the arrogance of
mathematical physicists giving priority to formalism against empirical
facts....
I am not glad to win if mathematical physicists will not be destroyed by PNN
too ...as soon as you will reach togheter mr. Uncle the gothalist
http://www.asps.it/gotha.htm

Your patent excuse is utterly ridiculous and contemptible.


Against us work that the fact we are very small and PNN is simplew
incredible.
Several industries said ud that don't like PNN for the fact that is

less
expensive than the rocketry. They said to us that PNN will be

interesting if
italian goverment put in it the same money that put in rocketry.....


The biggest thing working against you is the unfortunate fact it's
all a pile of steaming ****.

At least you got the 'incredible' (meaning: without credibility)
part right.


you idiot don't speak about:

Is wrong this too ? :
[5] Kirk T. McDonald ,Joseph Henry Laboratories, Princeton University,
Princeton, NJ 08544
(Nov. 15, 1998) [PDF]The Transverse Momentum of an Electron in a Wave 1
Problem 2 ... Formato file: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Versione HTML
Page 1. The Transverse Momentum of an Electron in a Wave Kirk T. McDonald
Joseph Henry Laboratories, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544 (Nov.
15, 1998) 1 ... http://www.hep.princeton.edu/~mcdona.../transmom2.pdf -

Experiments are the alone thing that have physical meaning, you ****
charlatan don't exist in front of PNN experiments

E.Laureti

p.s. : ceterum censeo Carthago delenda est ......id est : ceterum censeo
mathematical physicists delendi sunt





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Old December 13th 03, 05:32 PM
Robert J. Kolker
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asps wrote:

E.Laureti

p.s. : ceterum censeo Carthago delenda est ......id est : ceterum censeo
mathematical physicists delendi sunt


When will the reactionless motor run. Should I hold my breath till it
happens? Believed when seen.

Bob Kolker

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Old December 13th 03, 05:35 PM
David Robbins
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"asps" wrote in message
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called asps names...

"Paul F. Dietz" ha scritto nel messaggio
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asps wrote:

unfortunately replied with more name calling...

this will go no where on this group. without proof there can be no logical
discussion. but you refuse to provide proof without money up front. there
will be no money up front from anyone who reads this group, so your presence
here is not useful. may i suggest that you seal up the secret stuff in a
box and take it to a reputable university physics department and have them
measure it's effects in a controlled experiment, publish the results and
measurement method and see if that helps.


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Old December 13th 03, 06:29 PM
Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)
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"Paul F. Dietz" wrote in message
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asps wrote:

Since July 2002 , every 3 or 4 months , we have road shows wth italian
aerospace industries (and we have still) . The problem is the procedure
...... they want generally :

1) the know-how of PNN before they try to find who can pay Asps.
2) to be the only owner of pnn before they try to find who can pay Asps

We want at the same time and to avoid loss of know-how we have a

procedure
to show SC2.12 in a closed box http://www.asps.it/propnn.htm (for safety

no
patent at now)
Besides we want money only if SC2.12 is a revolution in space transport
system.


Suuuuuure you have.

You've been spamming this bull**** on usenet since 1996. It reeked then,
and it has not improved with age.

Your patent excuse is utterly ridiculous and contemptible.


I just realized, this reactionless drive BS seems to generate a lot of
reaction around here.

We should just ignore it.


 




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