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"Bill Snyder" wrote in message
"Brad Guth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org You folks do realize just how cool Venus L2 is, don't you? Venus isn't cool, retard, and neither are you. My God almighty, you silly folks actually don't know the difference between Venus and that of Venus L2. No wonder you're all so snookered and thus easily dumbfounded past the point of no return. Here I'd thought I was merely stuck with the sorts of having to fend off MI/NSA~MIB spooks, moles and/or the army of their minion borgs (apparently fully incest cloned borgs none the less), when in fact we're dealing with something far less qualified than a village idiot, and highly bigoted lot to boot. Sorry about all that. My mistake. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Brad Guth (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
lgate.org: "Bill Snyder" wrote in message "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org You folks do realize just how cool Venus L2 is, don't you? Venus isn't cool, retard, and neither are you. My God almighty, you silly folks actually don't know the difference between Venus and that of Venus L2. I wonder what they think the Trojan Position might be -- He hadde not leyser for to loke after who is his freend & who is his fo. - The Cloud of Unknowing (anon, 14th century) Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply |
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:42:31 +0000 (UTC), "Brad Guth"
wrote: "Bill Snyder" wrote in message "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org You folks do realize just how cool Venus L2 is, don't you? Venus isn't cool, retard, and neither are you. My God almighty, you silly folks actually don't know the difference between Venus and that of Venus L2. No wonder you're all so snookered and thus easily dumbfounded past the point of no return. Here I'd thought I was merely stuck with the sorts of having to fend off MI/NSA~MIB spooks, moles and/or the army of their minion borgs (apparently fully incest cloned borgs none the less), when in fact we're dealing with something far less qualified than a village idiot, and highly bigoted lot to boot. Sorry about all that. My mistake. So when you posted all those messages to a thread that you titled "Our moon is hot, Venus is not," you really meant the L2 point? When you said, "Venus has certainly been a little different and perhaps a whole lot more planetology rare on behalf of having accommodated intelligent other life than Earth," you meant space-based life? When you said, "You folks do realize that a fully manned rigid airship that's cruising efficiently just below those cool nighttime clouds could actually require some auxiliary cabin heat." -- that Zep would be cruising through clouds at the L2 point? Liar, lunatic, and retard. -- Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank.] |
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:15:37 +0000, Prai Jei
wrote: Brad Guth (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message ilgate.org: "Bill Snyder" wrote in message "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygat e.mailgate.org You folks do realize just how cool Venus L2 is, don't you? Venus isn't cool, retard, and neither are you. My God almighty, you silly folks actually don't know the difference between Venus and that of Venus L2. I wonder what they think the Trojan Position might be Nobody does it Trojan-style any more. You just can't find a decent horse costume these days, even at Halloween. -- Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank.] |
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In sci.physics, Brad Guth
wrote on Sun, 25 Feb 2007 02:34:40 +0000 (UTC) lgate.org: "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygate .mailgate.org You folks do realize just how cool Venus L2 is, don't you? On average, VL2 is much cooler than what ISS has to deal with. It's actually cool enough for accommodating a plastic Bigelow POOF, as to survive rather nicely within VL2. http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/ http://www.thespacereview.com/article/187/1 http://flyingsinger.blogspot.com/200...s-genesis.html - Brad Guth Um...forgive me for asking such a stupid question, but since space is so tenuous anyway how does one measure the temperature of a point therein? A better measurement is insolation or irradiation, especially if something is trapped in a bubble (e.g., a spacecraft with some air, water, etc. in it). Also, I'm not entirely sure but presumably the Venus L2 point is much farther away than low Earth orbit, or the Moon, making for certain logistics difficulties (and higher expense). -- #191, Linux. An OS which actually, unlike certain other offerings, works. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"The Ghost In The Machine" wrote in
message Um...forgive me for asking such a stupid question, but since space is so tenuous anyway how does one measure the temperature of a point therein? A better measurement is insolation or irradiation, especially if something is trapped in a bubble (e.g., a spacecraft with some air, water, etc. in it). It's all basic physics and math, either of which I'm not terribly good at, but supposedly you folks are. So, why don't you tell us what a POOF space station at VL2 is in for? At VL2 you've got roughly upon the spectrum average of 2550~2600 w/m2, less whatever's the shade provided by Venus (which is a serious bunch of shade). Also, I'm not entirely sure but presumably the Venus L2 point is much farther away than low Earth orbit, or the Moon, making for certain logistics difficulties (and higher expense). Each and every 19 months, your the same face of Venus that comes to within roughly 100 fold the distance of our moon. Therefore, you could damn near toss a moon rock at Venus, and expect that rock to eventually hit that big sucker (though perhaps not until the next 19 month cycle). Whatever the logistics wouldn't be at most 10% of accomplishing Mars, perhaps not 1% of our actually accomplishing any viable base camp upon our own nasty and otherwise global warming moon, and to think that you wouldn't have to pack along hardly any spare amounts of shielding or energy for surviving within your composite rigid waverider airship, or otherwise for the 19 month stay within the relatively cool VL2 POOF, nor would your mission be having need of all that much spare energy for your return trip from VL2 to Earth because, your exit energy demand from VL2 would be next to nothing, other than the wussy gravity pull of the sun, that's you're leaving behind at good velocity. Put any one of our spendy orbital do-everything supercomputers to work on it, and then give us that fully 3D animated GOOGLE/NOVA production quality run-through. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"Brad Guth" wrote in message
news:943268f4698ce93ff8aabb231b766a9b.49644@mygate .mailgate.org In addition to all that's clearly ongoing as taboo/nondisclosure (damage-control) about anything Venus, it seems there's still more news that we can all use about our silly moon which hasn't quite been walked upon. NASA insiders expose Apollo Hoax / banished from Mailgate http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...2a2ea85ea88d70 http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/sc...smart&p=1/1963 If these folks accept the fundamental notions that our warm and fuzzy NASA/Apollo can manage to have photographed our moon's physically dark terrain along with mother Earth as coexisting within the same FOV, and especially interesting is of their Kodak film's DR(dynamic range) as having rather easily recorded portions of our dark oceans that are worth an albedo of perhaps 0.1 (entirely similar enough as to the moon itself), whereas the absolute impressive and somewhat blue/violet peak spectrum as representing the vibrance of Venus should have been unavoidably recorded as well. Especially well recorded via those unfiltered optics that should otherwise have been nearly if not overloaded with such a gauntlet of all those extra near-UV and UV-a spectrums worth of photons as having reacted rather nicely with those highly reflective clouds which offers us the visual albedo of 0.7~0.8 to work with, whereas the actual peak solar spectrum energy and roughly reflecting 75% of that 4 kw/m2 is what the naked and unfiltered Kodak eye had to deal with. Yet lo and behold, not even from orbit or from those supposed EVAs upon the deck had there once been any sign of Venus, much less of any other significant planets, as well as never once accommodating the bluish-white vibrant speck of the Sirius star system, all of which were well within the DR(dynamic range) of those unfiltered Kodak moments, yet as though such significant items were never once to be seen (especially odd as of those NASA/Apollo missions A11, A14 and A16). As I've often stipulated before, that most any interactive 3D solar system simulator puts Venus smack within good EVA obtained view of at least those three missions (always within each command module's orbital view), and I might as well further add, that we have those free cellphone cameras with far better DR and of a wider spectrum capability than what our newest MESSENGER mirror optics and spendy 14+db CCD could apparently muster, as proof-positive via their flyby of Earth which only provided a rather naked looking and otherwise somewhat pastel view of Earth, w/o even so much as once accommodating our physically dark moon, much less having shared upon any other significant planets or stars that simply had to be there, yet all such other items were artificially made as invisible/stealth as were all of those Muslim WMD. Remember that starshine as well as earthshine upon the moon is absolutely vibrant to the unfiltered Kodak eye that's far more sensitive to having recorded such near-UV and UV-a spectrums than our human eye, which can't hardly if even detect, not to mention those pesky gamma and hard-X-ray spectrums of which that moon of our's is absolutely chuck full of such TBI(total body irradiation) dosage that's simply much worse off than any lethal hot zone within our Van Allen belts, and that's still not even including upon all of the continual thermal trauma of their having to survive those double IR/FIR spectrums that also coexisted, as coming at their naked moonsuit from nearly all surrounding directions in addition to whatever sol was directly contributing. That physically dark and somewhat salty moon of ours is what's actually a darn good IR/FIR reflector, and otherwise represents a rather **** poor UV reflector because, such UV energy often gets absorbed and/or interacts as creating secondary/recoil photons of the [UV black light generated] near-blue spectrum. Of course the solar and cosmic influx is what also represents lethal buttloads of having generated those secondary/recoil photons of gamma and hard-X-rays, with zilch worth of any attenuation from all possible directions, meaning that your wussy moonsuit is surrounded by an absolute minimum lethal gauntlet of 3.14e6 m2 that's contributing the full secondary spectrum worth of whatever's downright nasty if not lethal to your frail DNA, as well as continually impacting each and every physically more than boiling role of all that sensitive Kodak film. Wayne Throop: If you substitute venus for earth, it'd show up in the shot. Even if you move earth far away, it'd still show up, until it's so far away its light is falling on less than a single grain of the photograph; but as long as its idealized image is at least a single grain big, that grain would still be exposed. Instead, we see a somewhat naked guano island like reflective environment, for as far as the human and unfiltered Kodak eyes could see, in places having a thin and naturally terrestrial clumping 50/50 dusting of portland cement and cornmeal that was entirely xenon lamp spectrum illuminated (meaning w/o UV), whereas instead of their having to deal with whatever the raw and nearly point source of the extremely contrasty solar spectrum should have had to offer, along with such raw influx having unavoidably shared absolute extra loads worth of the near-UV and UV-a energy. Therefore, there's absolutely nothing of such hocus-pocus artificial content within such bogus images, or otherwise of mission associated content, that's worth a freaking hoot, much less a scientific hoot. Of course there's many other iffy if not downright naysay worthy fly-by-rocket and unproven lander factors that simply do not add up to what those pesky regular laws of physics and of replicated science and of otherwise proven technology has to say. Sorry that the likes of "Wayne Throop", "rick_so" and myself as your pesky historical revisionist team, and otherwise truth telling messengers from hell, must continually **** on your silly hocus-pocus parade. - Brad Guth Of a similar topic that's worthy of disclosure interest: Velikovsky/Neocatastrophism Sources / banished from Mailgate http://groups.google.com/group/rec.o...a52739c889bcc2 http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/rec/rec.org.mensa/Pbb1h.956$CT5.551%40trnddc02?order=smart&p=1/469 -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Brad Guth (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
lgate.org: It's all basic physics and math, either of which I'm not terribly good at, but supposedly you folks are. So, why don't you tell us what a POOF space station at VL2 is in for? Sounds a bit queer to me. -- He hadde not leyser for to loke after who is his freend & who is his fo. - The Cloud of Unknowing (anon, 14th century) Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply |
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In sci.physics, Brad Guth
wrote on Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:47:22 +0000 (UTC) lgate.org: "The Ghost In The Machine" wrote in message Um...forgive me for asking such a stupid question, but since space is so tenuous anyway how does one measure the temperature of a point therein? A better measurement is insolation or irradiation, especially if something is trapped in a bubble (e.g., a spacecraft with some air, water, etc. in it). It's all basic physics and math, either of which I'm not terribly good at, but supposedly you folks are. So, why don't you tell us what a POOF space station at VL2 is in for? At VL2 you've got roughly upon the spectrum average of 2550~2600 w/m2, less whatever's the shade provided by Venus (which is a serious bunch of shade). Somehow, I seriously doubt the VL2 point would get all that much shade. But lessee. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point mentions the concept of a Hill Sphere, which has radius r =~ R * cuberoot(M2/3M1) where M1 is presumably 1.998435 * 10^30 kg, M2 4.8685 * 10^24 kg, and R 1.08208926000 * 10^11 m. This gives r = 1.01 * 10^9 m. At that distance the angular displacement of Venus, which has diameter about 1.2 * 10^4 m, will be 1.2 * 10^-5 radian. The angular displacement of Sol, which has diameter 1.392 * 10^9 m, will be 1.286 * 10^-2 radian. One should see Venus as a dot against the Sun, but that's about it. Looks to me to be about a 0.0001% reduction in insolation -- which is basically nothing. Also, I'm not entirely sure but presumably the Venus L2 point is much farther away than low Earth orbit, or the Moon, making for certain logistics difficulties (and higher expense). Each and every 19 months, your the same face of Venus that comes to within roughly 100 fold the distance of our moon. Therefore, you could damn near toss a moon rock at Venus, and expect that rock to eventually hit that big sucker (though perhaps not until the next 19 month cycle). Moon distance: 3.85 * 10^8 m Venusian distance: maybe 4.2 * 10^10 m Whatever the logistics wouldn't be at most 10% of accomplishing Mars, perhaps not 1% of our actually accomplishing any viable base camp upon our own nasty and otherwise global warming moon, and to think that you wouldn't have to pack along hardly any spare amounts of shielding or energy for surviving within your composite rigid waverider airship, or otherwise for the 19 month stay within the relatively cool VL2 POOF, nor would your mission be having need of all that much spare energy for your return trip from VL2 to Earth because, your exit energy demand from VL2 would be next to nothing, other than the wussy gravity pull of the sun, that's you're leaving behind at good velocity. Put any one of our spendy orbital do-everything supercomputers to work on it, and then give us that fully 3D animated GOOGLE/NOVA production quality run-through. - Brad Guth -- #191, Useless C++ Programming Idea #10239993: char * f(char *p) {char *q = malloc(strlen(p)); strcpy(q,p); return q; } -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Prai Jei" wrote in message
Brad Guth (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message lgate.org: It's all basic physics and math, either of which I'm not terribly good at, but supposedly you folks are. So, why don't you tell us what a POOF space station at VL2 is in for? Sounds a bit queer to me. So, you are playing it dumb and dumber. Is there a good physics or whatever science reason for this? - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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