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Old January 27th 18, 03:37 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Paris has rules against shop lights from 1-5am to deal with light pollution and energy waste. So of course, someone had to try to go around the rules.

http://www.glowee.eu/

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Old January 27th 18, 07:07 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Saturday, 27 January 2018 04:37:59 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
Paris has rules against shop lights from 1-5am to deal with light pollution and energy waste. So of course, someone had to try to go around the rules.

http://www.glowee.eu/


Another source of light is not automatically evil unless made evil by evil men. A free and endless source of light, which does not require electrical energy, is surely a good thing? Particularly for cave dwellers like yourself. So rejoice! Now you don't need to figure out the conspiracy behind a few small [wooden] matches and the price of firewood! ;-)
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Old January 27th 18, 03:05 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 19:37:56 -0800 (PST), RichA
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Paris has rules against shop lights from 1-5am to deal with light pollution and energy waste. So of course, someone had to try to go around the rules.

http://www.glowee.eu/


Lighting in cities is generally a good thing.
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Old January 28th 18, 12:36 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Saturday, 27 January 2018 02:07:23 UTC-5, Chris.B wrote:
On Saturday, 27 January 2018 04:37:59 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
Paris has rules against shop lights from 1-5am to deal with light pollution and energy waste. So of course, someone had to try to go around the rules.

http://www.glowee.eu/


Another source of light is not automatically evil unless made evil by evil men. A free and endless source of light, which does not require electrical energy, is surely a good thing? Particularly for cave dwellers like yourself. So rejoice! Now you don't need to figure out the conspiracy behind a few small [wooden] matches and the price of firewood! ;-)


When self-luminous squid start cruising the streets of Paris at night, you can blame them too.
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Old January 28th 18, 12:38 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Saturday, 27 January 2018 10:05:55 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 19:37:56 -0800 (PST), RichA
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Paris has rules against shop lights from 1-5am to deal with light pollution and energy waste. So of course, someone had to try to go around the rules.

http://www.glowee.eu/


Lighting in cities is generally a good thing.


Circadian rhythm disruption. 90% of people in the civilized world live in cities and most don't use pitch-black window blinds or curtains.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5142605/
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Old January 28th 18, 01:05 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:38:50 -0800 (PST), RichA
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On Saturday, 27 January 2018 10:05:55 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 19:37:56 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

Paris has rules against shop lights from 1-5am to deal with light pollution and energy waste. So of course, someone had to try to go around the rules.

http://www.glowee.eu/


Lighting in cities is generally a good thing.


Circadian rhythm disruption. 90% of people in the civilized world live in cities and most don't use pitch-black window blinds or curtains.


It is bad design if people are unable to have darkness where they
sleep. Good lighting design fixes that.

A city without lights would be terrible.
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Old January 28th 18, 08:18 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sunday, 28 January 2018 02:05:11 UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:38:50 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

On Saturday, 27 January 2018 10:05:55 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 19:37:56 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

Paris has rules against shop lights from 1-5am to deal with light pollution and energy waste. So of course, someone had to try to go around the rules.

http://www.glowee.eu/

Lighting in cities is generally a good thing.


Circadian rhythm disruption. 90% of people in the civilized world live in cities and most don't use pitch-black window blinds or curtains.


It is bad design if people are unable to have darkness where they
sleep. Good lighting design fixes that.

A city without lights would be terrible.


It is not the light itself, but the vulgar, violent and completely inappropriate manner in which it is provided. It is not the absence of light but the excess of the same in completely the wrong place and time.

City street lighting may well be the sole reason we have not been contacted by aliens. We are considered far too dim to warrant their interest. They are patiently waiting until we fit proximity sensors and impose a global ban on the use of artificial light for advertising.

Product promotion, light trespass is a vile crime against humanity and should be the subject of the strongest sanctions available! We teach our children not to lie. Then subject them to constant corporate lies from blinding birth to a slow and lingering death. Once infected by advertising we have no way to treat the symptoms. There is no inoculation against the lifelong harm to innocence and an unfettered, free choice.

Carpet bombing children and civilians is considered a crime against humanity. So why not ban all advertising? It is far more damaging to a far greater number of innocent people.

Just look at self-harming behaviours which riddle our society! Chronically advertised, obese zombies stalk our streets looking for another abusive meal between meals. Or search for another toxic sugar bomb dealer.

Desperate children approach complete strangers on street corners. Each trying to buy a hideously disfiguring iPhoney just to satiate their greed for anything with functioning batteries. We could end spinal curvature right here and right now if they just banned iRottenApple's false advertising!

This isn't just affecting a few foreigners cowering in some rubble-strewn hell under bombardment by some evil despot like Pootin. It is happening right here and right now to our very own children, ourselves and our own parents! Let's end this once and for all!
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Old January 28th 18, 02:07 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:38:50 -0800 (PST), RichA
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Circadian rhythm disruption. 90% of people in the civilized world

live in cities and most don't use pitch-black window blinds or
curtains.

Anyone who want to can get and use such curtains. It's much harder to
put a pitch black blanket over the whole city to get dark skies...
:-)
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Old January 28th 18, 02:10 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:05:08 -0700, Chris L Peterson
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A city without lights would be terrible.


You don't have to go to such extremes. Even cities of centuries ago,
when light pollution was insignificant, weren't completely devoid of
lights.
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Old January 28th 18, 04:04 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 15:10:30 +0100, Paul Schlyter
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:05:08 -0700, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
A city without lights would be terrible.


You don't have to go to such extremes. Even cities of centuries ago,
when light pollution was insignificant, weren't completely devoid of
lights.


I'm in favor of decorative lighting in cities. Lighting up bridges and
buildings. Using lighting as art. And there are a great many examples
from around the world of this being done without much light being
wasted and contributing to light pollution.

The problem isn't light, it is bad lighting design.
 




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