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Old November 14th 10, 10:29 PM posted to sci.space.policy
William Mook[_2_]
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Ed Smith, creator of the Lensman and Skylark space operas was a PhD
chemist and worked at the National Bureau of Standards. He also was a
Lieutenant in the US Army during World War 1.

Lee Garby a PhD chemical engineer working at the Bureau of Chemistry
also in Washington DC with Smith, began a discussion about the
feasibility of space travel in 1915 following a dinner at Smith's
house. This led eventually the Skylark of Space stories published in
that era.

Smith was widely read by scientists and engineers from the 1920s into
the 1970s. Literary precursors of ideas which arguably entered the
military include

* SDI (Triplanetary),
* stealth (Gray Lensman),
* the OODA Loop, (Gray Lensman)
* C3-based warfare, (Gray Lensman)
* AWACS (Gray Lensman).

So, what's your beef Fred?



  #92  
Old November 14th 10, 10:30 PM posted to sci.space.policy
William Mook[_2_]
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Who is John Galt?

I am John Galt.

  #93  
Old November 15th 10, 03:41 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Nov 10, 12:01*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 9, 3:42*pm, William Mook wrote:



On Nov 8, 2:11*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 8, 10:38*am, William Mook wrote:


On Nov 7, 10:24*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 7, 5:26*pm, William Mook wrote:


Earth as a planet means Earth treated as a single entity of production
and consumption. *Which stands in marked contrast to treating Earth as
a divided and fractious collection of 266 nations each on their own
geopolitical position defined by their access or not to resources and
defined by their ability to trick, cajole or force others to hand over
what they need at the expense of the rest.


It is clear that despite well defined limits and options we have not
made good decisions related to the development of energy resources on
this planet.


It is likely we have not made good decisions related to the
development of other primary resources as well.


So, its worth thinking of a goal and determining if this goal is at
all feasible!


It turns out that it may be!


8 billion millionaires is one place to start. *Its a well defined
target. *We find that to achieve this goal we need vastly more than is
currently being produced in terms of food, energy, wood, metals, and
so on.


When, we look at what the entire planet has to offer we find that we
have enough - surprisingly.


In the end, we look at the Earth as we might look at a space colony -
and we find that we have plenty of everything to go around - if we
trouble ourselves to invest in the most productive infrastructure
possible and apply it as broadly as possible leaving no one out..


When we do this we find that approximately 800,000 sq km of solar
collectors, 800,000 sq km of green houses in the desert, a few large
water works programs, and careful management of 800,000 sq km of Taiga
forest, combined with the development of a yet to be determined number
of deep sea trenches - connected together with space based
communications, space based navigation, space based sensing, and a
network of hydrogen filled hydrogen fueled UAV - creates a system that
achieves the initial target of 8 billion millionaires.


From the productivity of this asset we can see how our economy might
adopt it as a private public partnership - allocating what Ford calls
efficiency bonuses to workers, management, investors, government, and
buyers alike.


This is all well and good, except for the usual part where William
Mook does nothing.


Motivating poor folks to do whatever they can't possibly afford to
accomplish isn't exactly a working plan, and especially dysfunctional
if there's no actual leadership by anyone other than yourself. *Do you
even have a short list of who would be put in charge of what, and have
any of them been contacted by you?


*~ BG


The 10 million millionaires have $40 trillion. *With the collapse of
the US banking system and the imminent unraveling of the US monetary
system they're looking for a place to put their money. *A few billion
to build a 'production cell' that puts all the pieces together is the
first step. *Then, building a factory that makes factories to make the
things we need to live. *Like I said;


* Five Years to Engineer and Develop
* Five Years to build the supply chain
* Five Years to build the products


We start with 1 cell and grow it 100x over three years by building a
production cell per year - of each type needed to support the supply
chain.


They are looking for a relatively failsafe and untaxable place to put
their 40 trillion so that it turns into 80 trillion at the least
possible overhead, and Mook hydrogen balloon cells for accomplishing
global deforestation or those terrific satellite based energy notions
to go along with your terrestrial conversion of solar energy into dirt
cheap LH2 and LOx are probably not on any of their short lists,
perhaps because they is heavily invested in the existing hydrocarbon
and nuclear energy cartels as is.


However, if you can manage to brake any of those trillions lose for
whatever Mook contrived investments, I'm certainly not going to stand
in your way. *I totally agree that we need to get our upper most
wealthy loot reinvested into advanced technology, various productions
of products, goods and especially energy that insures better long-term
growth that's affordably clean and isn't restricted by government or
faith-based policies that only get in the way and run up the cost of
just about everything. *Any further delay is yet another cost that we
can not afford.


*~ BG


Here is one scenario the board members at Exxon Mobil have on their
books;


The USA following a limited nuclear war in Asia before 2040 between
the Hindus and the Muslims will be in an ideal position to take over
ALL the world's nukes to secure world peace. *The USA will also
benefit from the flight of capital from a post-nuclear Asia. *The
world's population will be reduced to 4 billions by the war, and the
demand for resources will be radically reduced. *Following a limited
nuclear strike in Asia and a doubling of our background radiation, the
USA will then be in a position to introduce high-temperature nuclear
reactors using recycled nuclear materials gathered in the security
operation immediately following the war. *These will be used to
implement the BNL plan for high-temp breeder type nuclear reactors and
move from energy at $500 per barrel to too cheap to meter within a
half-century. *This will allow the major oil companies to retrieve all
the value from their remaining oil and then give them special entree'
to spend that money on the next big energy resource - the world's
stockpile of nuclear weapons materials.


Without pressing geopolitical needs present at the beginning of the
nuclear era, a portion of this resource will be cycled into nuclear
pulse spaceships which will be used to develop solar system resources
and other things I speak of, with a 4 billion, largely white, largely
Western, population.


Then it's all good. *We get our wish and the NWO tells each of us
exactly what we can or can not do.

It sounds like a perfect Mook and Semite world.

*~ BG


Its far from good. We are playing with our own extinction. Brad as
usual jumps to the wrong conclusions about what I've said, and in the
process missed the major detail that says a lot. Before I point out
that detail I will respond to what Brad says of me by saying that I
would prefer a diverse world of 8 billions and more. I will also say
that willfully reducing our social, psychological and biological
diversity before expanding into space is sheer madness. We will find
within the next 300 years, even with unlimited lifespans, that the
number of humans in the cosmos and their ability to intelligently
respond to the challenges there will be quite limited - made more so
by a limited nuclear war. If this scenario or anything like it is
allowed to happen we will have mutilated ourselves and our innate
capacities as humans in meeting the challenges the cosmos will send
our way. Hopefully we will not pay the ultimate price for our fears,
extinction.

The scary part is that powerful people at powerful organizations are
planning for something like this.

  #94  
Old November 15th 10, 04:10 PM posted to sci.space.policy
William Mook[_2_]
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On Nov 10, 12:06*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 9, 3:32*pm, William Mook wrote:

Nuking forests is not recommended.


Interesting you go from one extreme to the other and ignore the
rational path in between.


So, you really do not have any forestry or lumber related holdings or
connections, and you really don't have any honorable intentions or
perusing anything you've proposed. *Figures, because that's pretty
much exactly what a spook/mole from DARPA, CIA/MI6 would do.

*~ BG


Interesting that when someone points out the bi-polar madness you spew
(opposing harvesting and keeping forests pristine, then nuking forest
lands) you then accuse them of being part of a vast conspiracy due to
some equally mad logic of yours (spook/mole DARPA, CIA/MI6)

I think those words you constantly repeat are designed to dissuade
anyone from reading any further. Which seems to be the point of your
commentary - ditto for Fred and Jeff. Whether that's your intent, who
knows? That that's the effect is unquestioned.

Here are the major owners of the world's old growth forests. As you
can see all the private owners are the minority here. Idigenous
peoples and governments own the bulk of the forests and they are not
managed scientifically to maximize production.

millions of hectares
COUNTRY GOVT INDIG PRIVATE

Russian Federation 886.5 0 0
Brazil 423.7 74.5 57.3
Canada 388.9 1.4 27.2
United States 110.0 17.1 164.1
China 58.2 70.3 0

Australia 410.3 53.5 114.6
Congo 109.2 0 0
Indonesia 104.0 0.6 0
Peru nd 30.9 nd
India 53.6 11.6 5.2

Sudan 40.6 0.8 0
Mexico 2.75 44 8.3
Bolivia 28.2 19.2 5.4
Colombia nd 24.5 nd
Tanzania 38.5 0.4 0

Argentina 5.7 0 22.2
Myanmar 27.1 0 0
Papua New Guinea 0.8 25.9 0
Sweden 6.1 0 24.1
Japan 10.5 0 14.6

Cameroon 22.8 0 0
Central Africa 22.9 0 0
Gabon 21.0 0 0
Guyana 30.9 2.8 0

SUB-TOTAL 2,802.3 377.5 443.0

TOTAL 3,622.3
  #95  
Old November 15th 10, 10:20 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Nov 14, 9:34*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:
Ed Smith, creator of the Lensman and Skylark space operas was a PhD
chemist and worked at the National Bureau of Standards. *He also was a
Lieutenant in the US Army during World War 1.


Lee Garby a PhD chemical engineer working at the Bureau of Chemistry
also in Washington DC with Smith, began a discussion about the
feasibility of space travel in 1915 following a dinner at Smith's
house. *This led eventually the Skylark of Space stories published in
that era.


Smith was widely read by scientists and engineers from the 1920s into
the 1970s. Literary precursors of ideas which arguably entered the
military include


** SDI (Triplanetary),
** stealth (Gray Lensman),
** the OODA Loop, (Gray Lensman)
** C3-based warfare, (Gray Lensman)
** AWACS (Gray Lensman).


So, what's your beef Fred?


Poor Mookie really doesn't get it...

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine


No, Fred doesn't.
  #96  
Old November 15th 10, 10:49 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Nov 14, 2:30*pm, William Mook wrote:
Who is John Galt?

I am John Galt.


Interesting, and a little disturbing at the same time.

~ BG
  #97  
Old November 15th 10, 10:54 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Nov 15, 7:41*am, William Mook wrote:
On Nov 10, 12:01*am, Brad Guth wrote:



On Nov 9, 3:42*pm, William Mook wrote:


On Nov 8, 2:11*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 8, 10:38*am, William Mook wrote:


On Nov 7, 10:24*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 7, 5:26*pm, William Mook wrote:


Earth as a planet means Earth treated as a single entity of production
and consumption. *Which stands in marked contrast to treating Earth as
a divided and fractious collection of 266 nations each on their own
geopolitical position defined by their access or not to resources and
defined by their ability to trick, cajole or force others to hand over
what they need at the expense of the rest.


It is clear that despite well defined limits and options we have not
made good decisions related to the development of energy resources on
this planet.


It is likely we have not made good decisions related to the
development of other primary resources as well.


So, its worth thinking of a goal and determining if this goal is at
all feasible!


It turns out that it may be!


8 billion millionaires is one place to start. *Its a well defined
target. *We find that to achieve this goal we need vastly more than is
currently being produced in terms of food, energy, wood, metals, and
so on.


When, we look at what the entire planet has to offer we find that we
have enough - surprisingly.


In the end, we look at the Earth as we might look at a space colony -
and we find that we have plenty of everything to go around - if we
trouble ourselves to invest in the most productive infrastructure
possible and apply it as broadly as possible leaving no one out.


When we do this we find that approximately 800,000 sq km of solar
collectors, 800,000 sq km of green houses in the desert, a few large
water works programs, and careful management of 800,000 sq km of Taiga
forest, combined with the development of a yet to be determined number
of deep sea trenches - connected together with space based
communications, space based navigation, space based sensing, and a
network of hydrogen filled hydrogen fueled UAV - creates a system that
achieves the initial target of 8 billion millionaires.


From the productivity of this asset we can see how our economy might
adopt it as a private public partnership - allocating what Ford calls
efficiency bonuses to workers, management, investors, government, and
buyers alike.


This is all well and good, except for the usual part where William
Mook does nothing.


Motivating poor folks to do whatever they can't possibly afford to
accomplish isn't exactly a working plan, and especially dysfunctional
if there's no actual leadership by anyone other than yourself. *Do you
even have a short list of who would be put in charge of what, and have
any of them been contacted by you?


*~ BG


The 10 million millionaires have $40 trillion. *With the collapse of
the US banking system and the imminent unraveling of the US monetary
system they're looking for a place to put their money. *A few billion
to build a 'production cell' that puts all the pieces together is the
first step. *Then, building a factory that makes factories to make the
things we need to live. *Like I said;


* Five Years to Engineer and Develop
* Five Years to build the supply chain
* Five Years to build the products


We start with 1 cell and grow it 100x over three years by building a
production cell per year - of each type needed to support the supply
chain.


They are looking for a relatively failsafe and untaxable place to put
their 40 trillion so that it turns into 80 trillion at the least
possible overhead, and Mook hydrogen balloon cells for accomplishing
global deforestation or those terrific satellite based energy notions
to go along with your terrestrial conversion of solar energy into dirt
cheap LH2 and LOx are probably not on any of their short lists,
perhaps because they is heavily invested in the existing hydrocarbon
and nuclear energy cartels as is.


However, if you can manage to brake any of those trillions lose for
whatever Mook contrived investments, I'm certainly not going to stand
in your way. *I totally agree that we need to get our upper most
wealthy loot reinvested into advanced technology, various productions
of products, goods and especially energy that insures better long-term
growth that's affordably clean and isn't restricted by government or
faith-based policies that only get in the way and run up the cost of
just about everything. *Any further delay is yet another cost that we
can not afford.


*~ BG


Here is one scenario the board members at Exxon Mobil have on their
books;


The USA following a limited nuclear war in Asia before 2040 between
the Hindus and the Muslims will be in an ideal position to take over
ALL the world's nukes to secure world peace. *The USA will also
benefit from the flight of capital from a post-nuclear Asia. *The
world's population will be reduced to 4 billions by the war, and the
demand for resources will be radically reduced. *Following a limited
nuclear strike in Asia and a doubling of our background radiation, the
USA will then be in a position to introduce high-temperature nuclear
reactors using recycled nuclear materials gathered in the security
operation immediately following the war. *These will be used to
implement the BNL plan for high-temp breeder type nuclear reactors and
move from energy at $500 per barrel to too cheap to meter within a
half-century. *This will allow the major oil companies to retrieve all
the value from their remaining oil and then give them special entree'
to spend that money on the next big energy resource - the world's
stockpile of nuclear weapons materials.


Without pressing geopolitical needs present at the beginning of the
nuclear era, a portion of this resource will be cycled into nuclear
pulse spaceships which will be used to develop solar system resources
and other things I speak of, with a 4 billion, largely white, largely
Western, population.


Then it's all good. *We get our wish and the NWO tells each of us
exactly what we can or can not do.


It sounds like a perfect Mook and Semite world.


*~ BG


Its far from good. *We are playing with our own extinction. *Brad as
usual jumps to the wrong conclusions about what I've said, and in the
process missed the major detail that says a lot. * Before I point out
that detail I will respond to what Brad says of me by saying that I
would prefer a diverse world of 8 billions and more. *I will also say
that willfully reducing our social, psychological and biological
diversity before expanding into space is sheer madness. *We will find
within the next 300 years, even with unlimited lifespans, that the
number of humans in the cosmos and their ability to intelligently
respond to the challenges there will be quite limited - made more so
by a limited nuclear war. *If this scenario or anything like it is
allowed to happen we will have mutilated ourselves and our innate
capacities as humans in meeting the challenges the cosmos will send
our way. *Hopefully we will not pay the ultimate price for our fears,
extinction.

The scary part is that powerful people at powerful organizations are
planning for something like this.


I once again 100% agree with that interpretation. But then I've been
telling you this for how many years?

It seems you're still the one that doesn't accept what a firm grip the
past has on our private parts (including those of yours).

”whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell

~ BG
  #98  
Old November 15th 10, 11:05 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Nov 15, 8:10*am, William Mook wrote:
On Nov 10, 12:06*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Nov 9, 3:32*pm, William Mook wrote:


Nuking forests is not recommended.


Interesting you go from one extreme to the other and ignore the
rational path in between.


So, you really do not have any forestry or lumber related holdings or
connections, and you really don't have any honorable intentions or
perusing anything you've proposed. *Figures, because that's pretty
much exactly what a spook/mole from DARPA, CIA/MI6 would do.


*~ BG


Interesting that when someone points out the bi-polar madness you spew
(opposing harvesting and keeping forests pristine, then nuking forest
lands) you then accuse them of being part of a vast conspiracy due to
some equally mad logic of yours (spook/mole DARPA, CIA/MI6)

You forgot ZNRs and those nasty Semites that seldom if ever police
their own kind.


I think those words you constantly repeat are designed to dissuade
anyone from reading any further. *Which seems to be the point of your
commentary - ditto for Fred and Jeff. *Whether that's your intent, who
knows? *That that's the effect is unquestioned.

Here are the major owners of the world's old growth forests. *As you
can see all the private owners are the minority here. *Idigenous
peoples and governments own the bulk of the forests and they are not
managed scientifically to maximize production.

* * * * * * * * * * * * *millions of hectares
COUNTRY * * * * GOVT * *INDIG * PRIVATE

Russian Federation * * * 886.5 * * * 0 * * *0
* * * * * * * * * * * Brazil * * 423.7 *74.5 * * *57.3
* * * * * * * * * Canada * * * * 388.9 * *1..4 * * 27.2
* * * * *United States * 110.0 *17.1 * * * * * *164.1
* * * * * * * * * * *China * * * * 58.2 70.3 * * * * * * * *0

* * * * * * * * *Australia * * * 410.3 *53.5 * * * * * *114.6
* * * * * * * * * * Congo * * * *109.2 * * *0 * * * * * * * 0
* * * * * * * *Indonesia * * * * 104.0 * *0.6 * * * * * * * 0
* * * * * * * * * * * *Peru * * * * * nd * * * *30.9 * * * * * * * nd
* * * * * * * * * * * *India * * * *53.6 * * * *11.6 * * * * * * * *5.2

* * * * * * * * * * *Sudan * * * * *40.6 * * * * *0.8 * * * * * * * 0
* * * * * * * * * * Mexico * * * * *2.75 * * * *44 * * * * *8.3
* * * * * * * * * * *Bolivia * * * *28.2 * * * *19.2 * * * * * * * *5.4
* * * * * * * * Colombia * * * * * * * nd * * * 24.5 * * * * * * * *nd
* * * * * * * * *Tanzania * * * * * *38.5 * * * * 0.4 * * * * * * * 0

* * * * * * * * Argentina * * * * * * *5.7 * * * * 0 * * 22.2
* * * * * * * * Myanmar * * *27.1 * * * * 0 * * * * 0
Papua New Guinea * * * * * * * 0.8 * * *25.9 * * * *0
* * * * * * * * * Sweden * * * * * * * 6.1 * * * *0 * * *24.1
* * * * * * * * * * *Japan * * * * * 10.5 * * * * 0 * * *14.6

* * * * * * * Cameroon * * * 22.8 * * * * 0 * * * * 0
* * * * *Central Africa * * *22.9 * * * * 0 * * * * 0
* * * * * * * * * * Gabon * * * * * *21.0 * * * * 0 * * * * 0
* * * * * * * * * Guyana * * * * * * 30.9 * * * 2.8 * * * * 0

* * * * * *SUB-TOTAL * *2,802.3 377.5 * 443.0

* * * * * * * * * *TOTAL * * * *3,622.3


And thus far you own no stock or hold any lease in any of it, yet you
intend to tell us how it should be harvested with your hydrogen
blimps. And how is that going?

You do realize that replacement trees are nearly always dwarfs and
otherwise inferior to old growth. However, I'm certain Monsanto and
yourself can fix that.

You do realize that I'm in favor of your hydrogen blimps, perhaps
because I'm in favor of using hydrogen, as well as HTP that you can't
seem to appreciate any wide spread commercial or private consumer use
for.

~ BG

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Old November 15th 10, 11:40 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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My grandfather was always fond of saying there is more than one way to
skin a cat. There are many approaches. If we already worked
together with the same efficiency and intensity that we now struggle
against one another - the Earth would already be a paradise.

But, it can be done by a single individual, company, or group of
people, with the right approach and technical skills.

Here is another way to skin the cat outlined above;


* * *

Start with how to organize demand - you need an emergent system that's
flexible enough to meet everyone's needs - the best of markets and
democracy - without the shortcomings of markets and voting.

A monetary system that overcame the limitations of our present system,
would be helpful.

An efficient secure system that ran on a distributed network would
displace less efficient systems just as poor currencies are displaced
by stronger ones.

I have proposed this in the past, and have outlined it in brief here;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=istE1bpoDPg

Basically, scalars are replaced with vectors, and relationships are
replaced with tensors. Leontieff's input-output method of econometric
analysis builds such tensors. Vectors that relate two tensors create
a means to account accurately for transactions.

A workable system would be revolutionary without the need of a
revolution in the usual sense. As money declines in value, the
electronic 'promises' inferred from these secure transactions would
remain constant in terms of time attention and materiel produced and
consumed by folks.

* * *
Being able to sense and act in the world is also needed.

So, another aspect of near term tech is the ability to build mobile
MEMS devices.

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-n...ess-sensor-net

http://www.memsinvestorjournal.com/2...r-network.html

Gyros and accelerometers along with other devices built into every
cell phone, and networked together, can create a planetary sensor -
providing a status of all people everywhere all at once.

Then, there is the potential of MEMS based robots operating through a
wireless network;

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/lo...hDecision=-203

and 3D sensors

http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/11/1...ew-level-of-c/

http://electronicdesign.com/article/...e_devices.aspx

and even flying MEMS robots

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...a/display.aspx

that scavenge power from the environment - mostly sunlight but also
heat differences which is then stored in chemical form on board the
micro-robot

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/1062...7/01594114.pdf

which is pretty much what I said about 20 years ago.

* * * *
Tying the world together is an important detail. IP shows us how to
do that.

I have for years proposed an orbiting network of communications
satellites that used peta-bit open optical laser communicatoins to
create a global broadband backbone - with each satellite a router.
Along with phased array antennae on each satellite to implement an
uplink/downlink amid millions of virtual cells that are stationary on
Earth and doppler corrected for the simple IEEE 803.11y chipset that
made broadband contact with the global wireless hotspot.

These satellites also provide detailed weather and sensor data from
orbit - a real time Google Earth like application - with far more
data. Along with an enhanced GPS system using the satellites to
obtain millimeter resolution.

A cloud of 'smart smoke' - i.e. - A system of free-flying solar
powered robots that were networked together and coordinated their
signals to operate as a single antenna when needed - would displace
the need for satellites. The cost would be greater for a global
system - the entry level could be lower - depending on the details.

With any system folks anywhere communicate real time with sensor sets
and humanoid robots to drive them naturally using data suits.
Software is developed that takes advantage of the advanced
technologies describe here to organize a host of automated responses
to a wide range of conditions.

* * *
Manufacturing

Someone asked me how I would build 16 million airships. I pointed out
that a factory that built factories would be able to build the
airships in 15 years by pumping out a factory a week for two years.
This would be on the same scale as Kaiser's production of 140 capital
ships in a few years for the Allies in World War 2.

Building a factory that makes factories is a first step toward a self-
replicating machine system;

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science... searchtype=a

the problem of self-replication was defined mathematically in World
War 2. MEMS technology, and nano-technology, have the potential to
implement such systems in compact systems. Combinations are
interesting.

I showed elsewhere that 2.4 million km2 can sustain all people at
millionaire level. 800,000 sq km of solar collectors in deserts,
800,000 sq km of green houses in deserts, and 800,000 sq km of managed
forests - all tied together with high speed hydrogen filled hydrogen
fueled airships.

With the emerging systems described here it is clear that once a
'cell' is started - involving only

80 ha - of solar collectors
80 ha - of green houses
80 ha - of manged forests

with 16 airships tying them together - 1 large, 3 medium, 12 small

1 million cells form the complete system with 800,000 sq km each and
16 million airships supplying everyone's need.

Three hexagons - each 62 meters (203 ft 6 in) on a side - is the size
we're talking about here for each cell. Each cell is equipped with a
range of devices made from the materials found within each of the
areas described sufficient to make at least 20 copies of itself (first
generation).

20 doubling periods produce 1 million systems.

A doubling period of a 880 hours would allow construction of a global
system within 24 months of the first operating system.

* * *

8,000 people are supported by each cell once the system is operating.

* * *

16 million airships separated spread evenly over the entire Earth are
separated by 7 km each. Traveling at 400 kph they circumnavigate the
Earth in 100 hours. Looking at how populations are distributed,
typical cycle times are 2.5 days and payloads average 50 metric tons
across the three classes contemplated. 20 tons per ship per day - 320
million tons per day. 116.8 billion tons per year - 14.61 tons per
person per year - which accounts for productive transfer as well as
consumption and waste recovery.

* * *

Processing air, water, soil, laterite, regolith, saprolite and bedrock
into materials needed into demandite needed by the self-replicating
system is ideal. Assuming it takes 10 kilos of material to cover 1
sq meter and that 15% of the material is useful and it takes 70 tons
of material processed to cover each square meter. Taking the material
from ambient to the melting point of glass requires about 84 MJ per
square meter. Assuming an energy limited process - in the desert
1,000 W/m2 during full insolation and 25% illumination mean that 250 W/
m2 are available and 84 MJ mean 336,000 seconds doubling time at 100%
efficiency at 10% efficiency doubling time is 3,360,000 seconds
doubling time (Watt-second = Joule) This brackets the 3.18 million
seconds required to reproduce every 880 hours.


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Old November 16th 10, 03:05 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default The First Step in Creating a Space Age - Treat Earth as a Planet

On Nov 15, 3:40*pm, William Mook wrote:
My grandfather was always fond of saying there is more than one way to
skin a cat. *There are many approaches. * If we already worked
together with the same efficiency and intensity that we now struggle
against one another - the Earth would already be a paradise.

But, it can be done by a single individual, company, or group of
people, with the right approach and technical skills.

*Here is another way to skin the cat outlined above;

* * *

Start with how to organize demand - you need an emergent system that's
flexible enough to meet everyone's needs - the best of markets and
democracy - without the shortcomings of markets and voting.

A monetary system that overcame the limitations of our present system,
would be helpful.

An efficient secure system that ran on a distributed network would
displace less efficient systems just as poor currencies are displaced
by stronger ones.

I have proposed this in the past, and have outlined it in brief here;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=istE1bpoDPg

Basically, scalars are replaced with vectors, and relationships are
replaced with tensors. *Leontieff's input-output method of econometric
analysis builds such tensors. *Vectors that relate two tensors create
a means to account accurately for transactions.

A workable system would be revolutionary without the need of a
revolution in the usual sense. *As money declines in value, the
electronic 'promises' inferred from these secure transactions would
remain constant in terms of time attention and materiel produced and
consumed by folks.

* * *
Being able to sense and act in the world is also needed.

So, another aspect of near term tech is the ability to build mobile
MEMS devices.

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-n...cked-smartphon...

http://www.memsinvestorjournal.com/2...-mobile-device...

Gyros and accelerometers along with other devices built into every
cell phone, and networked together, can create a planetary sensor -
providing a status of all people everywhere all at once.

Then, there is the potential of MEMS based robots operating through a
wireless network;

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/lo...%2F%2Fieeexplo....

and 3D sensors

http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/11/1...s-3-axis-mems-...

http://electronicdesign.com/article/...rtial_sensors_...

and even flying MEMS robots

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...Qoy6eMAykJ:htt....

that scavenge power from the environment - mostly sunlight but also
heat differences which is then stored in chemical form on board the
micro-robot

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/1062...7/01594114.pdf

which is pretty much what I said about 20 years ago.

* * * *
Tying the world together is an important detail. *IP shows us how to
do that.

I have for years proposed an orbiting network of communications
satellites that used peta-bit open optical laser communicatoins to
create a global broadband backbone - with each satellite a router.
Along with phased array antennae on each satellite to implement an
uplink/downlink amid millions of virtual cells that are stationary on
Earth and doppler corrected for the simple IEEE 803.11y chipset that
made broadband contact with the global wireless hotspot.

These satellites also provide detailed weather and sensor data from
orbit - a real time Google Earth like application - with far more
data. *Along with an enhanced GPS system using the satellites to
obtain millimeter resolution.

A cloud of 'smart smoke' - i.e. - A system of free-flying solar
powered robots that were networked together and coordinated their
signals to operate as a single antenna when needed - would displace
the need for satellites. * The cost would be greater for a global
system - the entry level could be lower - depending on the details.

With any system folks anywhere communicate real time with sensor sets
and humanoid robots to drive them naturally using data suits.
Software is developed that takes advantage of the advanced
technologies describe here to organize a host of automated responses
to a wide range of conditions.

* * *
Manufacturing

Someone asked me how I would build 16 million airships. *I pointed out
that a factory that built factories would be able to build the
airships in 15 years by pumping out a factory a week for two years.
This would be on the same scale as Kaiser's production of 140 capital
ships in a few years for the Allies in World War 2.

Building a factory that makes factories is a first step toward a self-
replicating machine system;

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...i=B6V0V-3YCKKB....

the problem of self-replication was defined mathematically in World
War 2. *MEMS technology, and nano-technology, have the potential to
implement such systems in compact systems. Combinations are
interesting.

I showed elsewhere that 2.4 million km2 can sustain all people at
millionaire level. *800,000 sq km of solar collectors in deserts,
800,000 sq km of green houses in deserts, and 800,000 sq km of managed
forests - all tied together with high speed hydrogen filled hydrogen
fueled airships.

With the emerging systems described here it is clear that once a
'cell' is started - involving only

80 ha - of solar collectors
80 ha - of green houses
80 ha - of manged forests

with 16 airships tying them together - 1 large, 3 medium, 12 small

1 million cells form the complete system with 800,000 sq km each and
16 million airships supplying everyone's need.

Three hexagons - each 62 meters (203 ft 6 in) on a side - is the size
we're talking about here for each cell. *Each cell is equipped with a
range of devices made from the materials found within each of the
areas described sufficient to make at least 20 copies of itself (first
generation).

20 doubling periods produce 1 million systems.

A doubling period of a 880 hours would allow construction of a global
system within 24 months of the first operating system.

* * *

8,000 people are supported by each cell once the system is operating.

* * *

16 million airships separated spread evenly over the entire Earth are
separated by 7 km each. *Traveling at 400 kph they circumnavigate the
Earth in 100 hours. * Looking at how populations are distributed,
typical cycle times are 2.5 days and payloads average 50 metric tons
across the three classes contemplated. *20 tons per ship per day - 320
million tons per day. *116.8 billion tons per year - 14.61 tons per
person per year - which accounts for productive transfer as well as
consumption and waste recovery.

* * *

Processing air, water, soil, laterite, regolith, saprolite and bedrock
into materials needed into demandite needed by the self-replicating
system is ideal. * Assuming it takes 10 kilos of material to cover 1
sq meter and that 15% of the material is useful and it takes 70 tons
of material processed to cover each square meter. *Taking the material
from ambient to the melting point of glass requires about 84 MJ per
square meter. * Assuming an energy limited process - in the desert
1,000 W/m2 during full insolation and 25% illumination mean that 250 W/
m2 are available and 84 MJ mean 336,000 seconds doubling time at 100%
efficiency at 10% efficiency doubling time is 3,360,000 seconds
doubling time (Watt-second = Joule) * This brackets the 3.18 million
seconds required to reproduce every 880 hours.


Your first GW of solar derived energy will be greatly appreciated.

Less talk more action is what we need from you. I'm sure that you
could manage everything well enough to remain energy competitive and
reasonably failsafe.

The other stuff seems viable as well, but only if it's managed
entirely by yourself, because we already know that you would not allow
any changes or variations introduced by others.

~ BG
 




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