Evolution of seans

"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 1:38 pm, "Darla" wrote:
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On Jan 6, 10:27 am, "Darla" wrote:
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On Jan 6, 2:30 am, "Darla" wrote:
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On Jan 4, 10:04 pm, "Darla" wrote:

So I'm afraid that asking us for anything more than polite
conversation
here
in newsgroups would be an unrealistic request.
--
**** Darla
Be well and come... be welcome
You are the fifth star!

You mention that you are "afraid". Is this a normal sean policy,
of
being afraid?

I thought seans and their brown-nosed minions, such as yourself,
fear
absolutely nothing.

How about I become your ghost astronomer and subsequent author/
publisher. Send your best image stuff and whatever associated
information to my email, and then I'll post it verbatim as though
it
came from me, as then you'll be perfectly safe because, no one
will
likely ever believe any pixel or word of it.

~ BG

That's really a very fine offer, Brad, but I'm afraid that for the
reasons I
stated in the last post, this is not something we can do.

Note that the "I'm afraid", is just my way of putting things the
way
many
humans put them.
The interesting thing is, the more one says something like that,
the
more
deeply engrained it gets in one's psyche.
At one point during this dangerous operation, I actually froze.
I felt what could only have been true fear.
That's what fear does to you, Brad, it freezes you, it turns your
thinking
functions off, it stops you from doing what has to be done.
It lasted a brief moment, and then it was over and I went on and
did
my
duty.

This is what fearlessness training can do for someone.
Even if there is a lapse, such as the one I had, it only lasts a
very
short
time and it's over.
I haven't felt a lapse like that since, well, a very long time ago.

You are correct, though, because in saying things like "I'm afraid
you'll
have to find a way," or "I'm afraid the odds are pretty low," you
are
actually setting yourself up to fail.
You are programming your brain to be "afraid".
I'll try to stop doing that.
Thank you, Brad, for the heads up!

--
**** Darla
Be well and come... be welcome
You are the fifth star!

But you are afraid of "official first contact" because, perhaps it's
not your call?

~ BG

No, it's NOT our call.
It's YOUR call.
More precisely, it's the call of all human beings.
THEY have to decide whether or not they're ready for official contact.
We will know when this has been done.

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

I'm ready, or rather been ready for several decades. Now it's your
turn.

~ BG

If that's true, it means that you, one person, feels ready.
Fact is, there are many more who are "ready" in the sense that they would
either welcome us, or they would be skeptical of our motives and yet
stick
around to either continue their skepticism or to eventually realize that
we
are worthy of mutual respect.
There are still far too many who would let their fear overcome their
reasoning power.
Their number is decreasing, but it is not yet down to a figure that we
can
"live with".

When more of "them" are ready, then it will be "our turn".

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

But since you and other ZNRs plus their Rothschild political
rusemasters and armies of brown-nosed minions and clowns that you
clearly see nothing seriously wrong with, and even somewhat admirer,
and as such don't believe in ever revising history (meaning anything
older than 24 hours) in order to reflect the best available evidence
as truths, whereas that time of whatever advanced ETs or sean
acceptance is perhaps never going to come without one hell of a world
war that wipes 90+% of us out.

So, you seans must be sticking around to pick up whatever's left after
we've accomplished most of your global domination dirty work.

~ BG

Statements that clearly show that you are NOT ready for official contact!

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

"Hagar" hagen@sahm,name wrote in message
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"Darla" wrote in message
g.com...

"Hagar" wrote in message
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"Darla" wrote in message
g.com...
You can't possibly be certain of this, Saul.

Say, Darla, I just so love the gibberish you and that Plejarer,
ChuckWeasel,
spew forth. It is not every day that one has the privilege to observe
evolution
in retrograde, even though GuthBall is certainly a shining example of
that
phenomenon. However, what sets you two apart is the fact that you
actually believe your inane tales of embodying extraterrestrial
emissaries
and being the creators of stars.

Of course, we have long since become acquainted with Chuckles' lively
quotations (see link below), so utterly absurd, that they can only be
attributed to the demented state of a rapidly deteriorating mind, but
not
totally unexpected for a goat humper.

http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/chuckiebutt/


So Hagar, you perceive me (and the rest of us played by me) to be a human
who has lost her or his marbles.
I can live with that.
And I can understand why you and others would believe that.
I even comprehend the games played here in this wonderful medium.

What I'd like to know is: What would you do if you found out there
actually ARE people on Earth who originally come from the Seven Sisters
group, or perhaps a planet that used to be in the Sagittarius arm and no
longer exists?
How would that make you feel?


I am convinced that intelligent life in our Galaxy, in the entire
Universe, as a
matter of fact, is the rule, rather than the exception.

As for your suggestion that specimen of these aliens civilizations might
already be walking among us, combined with the implication that you and
ChuckWeasel
might be representatives of such alien civilizations, does raise a
puzzling question:
Why did they send the stupid ones ...


Hah! Perhaps they wanted us to "fit in"?

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

On Jan 6, 8:10*pm, "Darla" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Jan 6, 1:38 pm, "Darla" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Jan 6, 10:27 am, "Darla" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...

On Jan 6, 2:30 am, "Darla" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...

On Jan 4, 10:04 pm, "Darla" wrote:

So I'm afraid that asking us for anything more than polite
conversation
here
in newsgroups would be an unrealistic request.
--
**** Darla
Be well and come... be welcome
You are the fifth star!

You mention that you are "afraid". *Is this a normal sean policy,
of
being afraid?

I thought seans and their brown-nosed minions, such as yourself,
fear
absolutely nothing.

How about I become your ghost astronomer and subsequent author/
publisher. *Send your best image stuff and whatever associated
information to my email, and then I'll post it verbatim as though
it
came from me, as then you'll be perfectly safe because, no one
will
likely ever believe any pixel or word of it.

~ BG

That's really a very fine offer, Brad, but I'm afraid that for the
reasons I
stated in the last post, this is not something we can do.

Note that the "I'm afraid", is just my way of putting things the
way
many
humans put them.
The interesting thing is, the more one says something like that,
the
more
deeply engrained it gets in one's psyche.
At one point during this dangerous operation, I actually froze.
I felt what could only have been true fear.
That's what fear does to you, Brad, it freezes you, it turns your
thinking
functions off, it stops you from doing what has to be done.
It lasted a brief moment, and then it was over and I went on and
did
my
duty.

This is what fearlessness training can do for someone.
Even if there is a lapse, such as the one I had, it only lasts a
very
short
time and it's over.
I haven't felt a lapse like that since, well, a very long time ago.

You are correct, though, because in saying things like "I'm afraid
you'll
have to find a way," or "I'm afraid the odds are pretty low," you
are
actually setting yourself up to fail.
You are programming your brain to be "afraid".
I'll try to stop doing that.
Thank you, Brad, for the heads up!

--
**** Darla
Be well and come... be welcome
You are the fifth star!

But you are afraid of "official first contact" because, perhaps it's
not your call?

~ BG

No, it's NOT our call.
It's YOUR call.
More precisely, it's the call of all human beings.
THEY have to decide whether or not they're ready for official contact.
We will know when this has been done.

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

I'm ready, or rather been ready for several decades. *Now it's your
turn.

~ BG

If that's true, it means that you, one person, feels ready.
Fact is, there are many more who are "ready" in the sense that they would
either welcome us, or they would be skeptical of our motives and yet
stick
around to either continue their skepticism or to eventually realize that
we
are worthy of mutual respect.
There are still far too many who would let their fear overcome their
reasoning power.
Their number is decreasing, but it is not yet down to a figure that we
can
"live with".

When more of "them" are ready, then it will be "our turn".

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

But since you and other ZNRs plus their Rothschild political
rusemasters and armies of brown-nosed minions and clowns that you
clearly see nothing seriously wrong with, and even somewhat admirer,
and as such don't believe in ever revising history (meaning anything
older than 24 hours) in order to reflect the best available evidence
as truths, whereas that time of whatever advanced ETs or sean
acceptance is perhaps never going to come without one hell of a world
war that wipes 90+% of us out.

So, you seans must be sticking around to pick up whatever's left after
we've accomplished most of your global domination dirty work.

~ BG

Statements that clearly show that you are NOT ready for official contact!

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

Go figure, as we call that a cop-out.

~ BG

"Darla" wrote in message
g.com...

"Hagar" hagen@sahm,name wrote in message
...

"Darla" wrote in message
g.com...

"Hagar" wrote in message
...

"Darla" wrote in message
g.com...
You can't possibly be certain of this, Saul.

Say, Darla, I just so love the gibberish you and that Plejarer,
ChuckWeasel,
spew forth. It is not every day that one has the privilege to observe
evolution
in retrograde, even though GuthBall is certainly a shining example of
that
phenomenon. However, what sets you two apart is the fact that you
actually believe your inane tales of embodying extraterrestrial
emissaries
and being the creators of stars.

Of course, we have long since become acquainted with Chuckles' lively
quotations (see link below), so utterly absurd, that they can only be
attributed to the demented state of a rapidly deteriorating mind, but
not
totally unexpected for a goat humper.

http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/chuckiebutt/


So Hagar, you perceive me (and the rest of us played by me) to be a
human who has lost her or his marbles.
I can live with that.
And I can understand why you and others would believe that.
I even comprehend the games played here in this wonderful medium.

What I'd like to know is: What would you do if you found out there
actually ARE people on Earth who originally come from the Seven Sisters
group, or perhaps a planet that used to be in the Sagittarius arm and no
longer exists?
How would that make you feel?


I am convinced that intelligent life in our Galaxy, in the entire
Universe, as a
matter of fact, is the rule, rather than the exception.

As for your suggestion that specimen of these aliens civilizations might
already be walking among us, combined with the implication that you and
ChuckWeasel
might be representatives of such alien civilizations, does raise a
puzzling question:
Why did they send the stupid ones ...


Hah! Perhaps they wanted us to "fit in"?


G So sorry, couldn't resist!

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 8:10 pm, "Darla" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Jan 6, 1:38 pm, "Darla" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...

On Jan 6, 10:27 am, "Darla" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...

On Jan 6, 2:30 am, "Darla" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...

On Jan 4, 10:04 pm, "Darla" wrote:

So I'm afraid that asking us for anything more than polite
conversation
here
in newsgroups would be an unrealistic request.
--
**** Darla
Be well and come... be welcome
You are the fifth star!

You mention that you are "afraid". Is this a normal sean
policy,
of
being afraid?

I thought seans and their brown-nosed minions, such as
yourself,
fear
absolutely nothing.

How about I become your ghost astronomer and subsequent
author/
publisher. Send your best image stuff and whatever associated
information to my email, and then I'll post it verbatim as
though
it
came from me, as then you'll be perfectly safe because, no one
will
likely ever believe any pixel or word of it.

~ BG

That's really a very fine offer, Brad, but I'm afraid that for
the
reasons I
stated in the last post, this is not something we can do.

Note that the "I'm afraid", is just my way of putting things the
way
many
humans put them.
The interesting thing is, the more one says something like that,
the
more
deeply engrained it gets in one's psyche.
At one point during this dangerous operation, I actually froze.
I felt what could only have been true fear.
That's what fear does to you, Brad, it freezes you, it turns
your
thinking
functions off, it stops you from doing what has to be done.
It lasted a brief moment, and then it was over and I went on and
did
my
duty.

This is what fearlessness training can do for someone.
Even if there is a lapse, such as the one I had, it only lasts a
very
short
time and it's over.
I haven't felt a lapse like that since, well, a very long time
ago.

You are correct, though, because in saying things like "I'm
afraid
you'll
have to find a way," or "I'm afraid the odds are pretty low,"
you
are
actually setting yourself up to fail.
You are programming your brain to be "afraid".
I'll try to stop doing that.
Thank you, Brad, for the heads up!

--
**** Darla
Be well and come... be welcome
You are the fifth star!

But you are afraid of "official first contact" because, perhaps
it's
not your call?

~ BG

No, it's NOT our call.
It's YOUR call.
More precisely, it's the call of all human beings.
THEY have to decide whether or not they're ready for official
contact.
We will know when this has been done.

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

I'm ready, or rather been ready for several decades. Now it's your
turn.

~ BG

If that's true, it means that you, one person, feels ready.
Fact is, there are many more who are "ready" in the sense that they
would
either welcome us, or they would be skeptical of our motives and yet
stick
around to either continue their skepticism or to eventually realize
that
we
are worthy of mutual respect.
There are still far too many who would let their fear overcome their
reasoning power.
Their number is decreasing, but it is not yet down to a figure that we
can
"live with".

When more of "them" are ready, then it will be "our turn".

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

But since you and other ZNRs plus their Rothschild political
rusemasters and armies of brown-nosed minions and clowns that you
clearly see nothing seriously wrong with, and even somewhat admirer,
and as such don't believe in ever revising history (meaning anything
older than 24 hours) in order to reflect the best available evidence
as truths, whereas that time of whatever advanced ETs or sean
acceptance is perhaps never going to come without one hell of a world
war that wipes 90+% of us out.

So, you seans must be sticking around to pick up whatever's left after
we've accomplished most of your global domination dirty work.

~ BG

Statements that clearly show that you are NOT ready for official contact!

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

Go figure, as we call that a cop-out.

~ BG

Well, you just go ahead and call it anything you like, Brad!
The fact is that you and your so-so-special way of handling adversity are
not so uncommon among humans.
You are just the type who would sit in front of his TV for two or three
weeks picking his nose, and then try to fly his plane into the aliens'
mother ship.
You would steadily become certain that all of the national and global
conspiracies you claim would then stretch out beyond Earth's atmosphere.
Those conspiracies would take on the scope of the entire universe.
Do you REALLY think that you could handle that?
We don't.

But that's not the end of it, not by a long shot.
All those fears you love to hold on to, all those conspiracies you love to
espouse, could be broken.
They could wash away just like last night's beef pot pie dinner.
Start thinking fearlessness, Brad, true fearlessness.
Learn all that you can about it.

I and others of our crew, especially Dr. Yubiwan, have written a wealth
about fearlessness.
So if you can find it in yourself to actually want to STOP being so fearful
of conspiracies, that wealth is easily found in the online archive.
Try to be happy, Brad, and please do deal with all those fears you seem to
love so much.
Learn to hate those fears, because all they do is hold you back.
They keep you from doing anything really good with your life.

Here is a universal truth:
It is ineffective to fight evil directly!
Evil must be fought INdirectly if one is to be effective against it!
The only truly efficient and effective way to fight the evil is by making
daily progress for the good!

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:10:02 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:

Statements that clearly show that you are NOT ready for official contact!

That should be: they show that YOU, BradGuth, are not ready :-)

... but then ... who cares? :-

C.

P.S.: Mankind shall never be ready for alien contact but they will have
to get used to it.

Most of mankind IS ready, Charles.
It's just that the "most" part isn't quite large enough, yet.

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:38:19 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:

If that's true, it means that you, one person, feels ready.
Fact is, there are many more who are "ready" in the sense that they would
either welcome us, or they would be skeptical of our motives and yet stick
around to either continue their skepticism or to eventually realize that
we
are worthy of mutual respect.
There are still far too many who would let their fear overcome their
reasoning power.
Their number is decreasing, but it is not yet down to a figure that we can
"live with".

When more of "them" are ready, then it will be "our turn".

Hi Darla,
- aside from the fact that there are no aliens to "show up" - the
argument about mankind's "readiness" for confrontation with people from
outside of this planet would require at least some insight into human
psychology, and according to your own evincing you don't have any. ..
Not even that Yubiwan (im)person(ation) seems to understand humans and
human reactions.

C.

Now you want to "spar" with the "other aliens", Charles?
I'll not fight you.
I will say that I like this newfound strength in you, though.

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:15:49 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:

What I'd like to know is: What would you do if you found out there
actually
ARE people on Earth who originally come from the Seven Sisters group, or
perhaps a planet that used to be in the Sagittarius arm and no longer
exists?
How would that make you feel?

Simply phrased: he would be "in da Nile" ;-))))

His mind would close down before he had to confront it.

C.

Oh, I disagree, Charles.
Hagar would be among the many who, while highly skeptical of our motives,
and who would scour us for weaknesses, would also be taken in by what all
people would perceive as the "magic" of our technology.
And when, over time, we actually earn his respect, he would begin to enjoy
all facets of our community.
So I can say confidently that Hagar would be too curious not to stick
around.

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 04:06:16 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:

Oh, I disagree, Charles.

I know - that's why your understanding of human psychology sucks ...

Hagar would be among the many who, while highly skeptical of our motives,
and who would scour us for weaknesses, would also be taken in by what all
people would perceive as the "magic" of our technology.
And when, over time, we actually earn his respect, he would begin to enjoy
all facets of our community.
So I can say confidently that Hagar would be too curious not to stick
around.

Correct, but this won't win his heart nor diminish his aggressivity
/aggressiveness. It's the same mistake that brought your people in
confrontation with Irak and all the rest.

You are so TYPICAL eastcoastAmerican ;-))).

C.

Well, I DO like that area of the world above many others, and have spent a
lot of time there.
As for your disagreement, it is all yours to contend, of course.
We've had far too much experience watching planets ready themselves for
official contact to concern ourselves with the improbable condition that we
are misreading its sentient inhabitants.
Perhaps it is you who are incorrect?
At any rate, Cheers to you for the sparring attempt.
You may call this a "dodge" or a "duck" if you like.
Don't expect a "jab" or a "punch".
It would be like dealing with an unarmed man. G

Seriously, it is not our desire to verbally joust with anyone.
So you may rid yourself of this technique, or you may continue.
It is your choice.
Be well!

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 03:51:21 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:

Most of mankind IS ready, Charles.

Okey ...

It's just that the "most" part isn't quite large enough, yet.

Says who? Pom? :-))

Do we have to wait till those in Jesu-land accept concepts like
"EvolutionTheory"?

C.

You would then have to wait a very long time, wouldn't you, Charles.

The people whom you so uniquely describe have their own perceptions of
reality.
Others have THEIR own perceptions of reality that are different.
We do not bombard all these people with our perceptions of reality and
expect them to immediately frolic down the pathways of our perceptions.
Even Semmalon, while enjoying some of the realities of our community, still
likes to maintain his own complete picture of reality, the reality under
which he was raised.

Reality is funny that way, Charles!
There is what might be called the "highest level of reality", which is the
truest and most complete reality.
Then there are other levels of reality that rely upon a person's perception
of the universe, and upon the perceptions of their closely loved family and
friends.
For them, their levels of reality are the "most real".
We do not "burst any bubbles".
Everyone is free and gets to choose whatever reality maintains their comfort
zone.

Freedom is a most important concept, Charles.
And we like to match our freedoms with our duties, our responsibilities.
Freedom and duty.
There are no two other concepts as important as these in the universe!

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!