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Lidl binoculars
Lidl have binoculars from Monday next at £14.99. Does anyone have any idea
what they're really like? Are the lenses glass or plastic? My local store say customers are not supposed to open boxes to look at goods. Is this the same country-wide? Their returns policy is quaint too; you have to apply to head office, in writing, and they will consider it, then decide! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.808 / Virus Database: 550 - Release Date: 08/12/04 |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:19 +0000, Syke wrote:
Lidl have binoculars from Monday next at £14.99. Does anyone have any idea what they're really like? Are you having a laugh? For £14.99, what do you think they are like? They probably cost £5 or less to make,so you can imagine, their quality will only be slightly better than a milk bottle base. Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. http://www.dvatc.co.uk - Off-road cycling in the North Midlands. |
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On or about 2004-12-10,
A.Lee illuminated us with: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:19 +0000, Syke wrote: Lidl have binoculars from Monday next at £14.99. Does anyone have any idea what they're really like? Are you having a laugh? For £14.99, what do you think they are like? They probably cost £5 or less to make,so you can imagine, their quality will only be slightly better than a milk bottle base. Seems reasonable: http://www.lidl.co.uk/gb/index.nsf/p..._24_Binoculars -- Mark Real email address | If you're passed on the left... is mark at | you're in the wrong lane. ayliffe dot org | |
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I got from Ebay a new pair of those cheap "Breaker" 13x70 binoculars not
that long ago. They have those bright "ruby-coated" objectives. They're pretty crap. But they were cheap. Can't remember but ISTR I paid about forty-something for them. I wouldn't buy another pair though. But hey, I didn't expect great things so I wasn't that disappointed, and they do kinda work. Kinda. Martin -- M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890 Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk |
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Syke wrote:
Lidl have binoculars from Monday next at £14.99. These are zoom binoculars. There is no such thing as a good zoom binocular for astronomy (or anything else, for that matter). There is a very good reason that you don't find zoom binoculars with the names Zeiss, Leica, or Swarovski on them. Not only must the eyepieces zoom at as-near-as-dammit exactly the same rate (which means absolutely no perceptible rocking of the bridge), but you are trying to make a system with moveable optical elements that must hold collimation, ideally to about an arcminute where step (aka dipvergence, aka supravergence) is concerned if one is approaching ×24; for the ×125 that I have seen advertised for some zoom binoculars, this translates to better than 15 arcsec! Now, consider how many good quality centre-focus 24× binoculars you know of -- I don't know of any, and I am sure that part of the reason must be that it would be a feat of technological brilliance (not to say expense!) to bridge two eyepieces in such a way that they maintain collimation to within the tolerances that are required. (And remember that it is unlikely that they will have a "base tolerance" of zero error.) Does this help? Best, Stephen Remove footfrommouth to reply -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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I'm getting completely fed up with buying 7 & 10 x 50 Japanese binos
for under a tenner in the charity shops and flea markets. I paid a bit more for the pair of 8 x 56 rubber-armoured german roof-prism jobs. But not much more. Saw a pair of armoured roof-prism 7 x 42 Zeiss Dialyts the other day. I left them for someone who needed them more than me. (and hopefully knew how to pronounce the name properly) ;-) Chris.B |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:54:10 +0000, Stephen Tonkin ) said:
in such a way that they maintain collimation to within the tolerances that are required. (And remember that it is unlikely that they will have a "base tolerance" of zero error.) Does this help? I know you're the expert and I'm not, but I did have a cheap pair of 7-21x 42s that were quite useable for many years for very basic astro purposes. Easy enough to use the eyepiece diopter correction to correct for any inherent focus differences between the eyepieces. Eventually fell out of alignment (fifteen years later) and are now a zoom-lens for my camera. Personally, I'm missing them now; a pair of rough & ready bins to keep in the car for when I'd otherwise be without a pair. Yes, they're not going to be in the same league as proper pair of fixed 10x50s, but I wouldn't be surprised if they'd still make Pleiades look pretty. I have to say that, for 15quid, I'd be tempted to get them as a second 'emergency' pair. -- Julie Brandon http://www.computergeeks.co.uk/ __________________________________________________ _____________________________ |
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7dayshop's little porro (I assume) jobs at 7x and 10x are very handy under a
tenner. Only 21mm, though, so no light grasp. wrote in message oups.com... I'm getting completely fed up with buying 7 & 10 x 50 Japanese binos for under a tenner in the charity shops and flea markets. I paid a bit more for the pair of 8 x 56 rubber-armoured german roof-prism jobs. But not much more. Saw a pair of armoured roof-prism 7 x 42 Zeiss Dialyts the other day. I left them for someone who needed them more than me. (and hopefully knew how to pronounce the name properly) ;-) Chris.B |
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Julie Brandon wrote:
I know you're the expert and I'm not, I'm not an expert, Julie, merely an informed user. Best, Stephen Remove footfrommouth to reply -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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