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"Year of Our Lord" in the news (was: The perpetual calendar)
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:05:34 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:51:11 -0400, wrote: Yes, I think this guy has a hard row to hoe regarding a Christian college or even one with a Christian heritage. Maybe he had no idaa what trinity meant in this context, but he has to pay for that. If he went to a public college or university, I think he'd be right, not just for his diploma but for everyone's. I wonder what the status of that is. The article says: When Medina applied to Trinity, university staff told him it wasn't a religious institution and that it maintained only a historical bond to the Presbyterian Church. My diploma from Northwestern University (Evanston, IL, USA) has "In the year of our Lord" on it. It's only fair. I paid the tuition with money with "In God We Trust" on it. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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"Year of Our Lord" in the news (was: The perpetual calendar)
R H Draney :
filted: Are you sure it was he? What I don't understand is why those who don't believe in Jesus Christ keep calling him Jesus Christ. Isn't the core of the question whether he was a christ or not? It seems to me they weaken the appearance of their argument, or the argument itself, when they call him by a title one would otherwise think they think he doesn't deserve. What would everyone else call him, then?..."Jesus bar Joseph"?... NSOED says, of "Christ": "(The title, now usu. treated as a name, given to) Jesus of Nazareth". I certainly regarded it as a name: I had no idea that it was supposed to be a title. Actually I think I use it only as an intensifier when cursing. If that "weakens the appearance of [my] argument", someone's clutching at straws. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
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Hey, Seuss!
What I don't understand is why those who don't believe in Jesus Christ keep calling him Jesus Christ. Disambiguation, for one. Arguments that "Jesus is not an actual historical person." are rather easily disproven by pointing to any one of numerous people with that name. (-: |
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"Year of Our Lord" in the news (was: The perpetual calendar)
On Apr 2, 4:48*am, wrote:
On 1 Apr 2010 20:19:32 -0700, R H Draney wrote: filted: What I don't understand is why those who don't believe in Jesus Christ keep calling him Jesus Christ. *Isn't the core of the question whether he was a christ or not? *It seems to me they weaken the appearance of their argument, or the argument itself, when they call him by a title one would otherwise think they think he doesn't deserve. What would everyone else call him, then?..."Jesus bar Joseph"?... No. "Josh Carpenter"?...r I call him Jesus. *If that would ever not be enough to make it clear, I would say Jesus of Nazareth. I have noticed that some radio and tv reporters and news readers call him Jesus and some call him Jesus Christ. *I think in the spirit of objective reporting, they should all call him Jesus or Jesus of Nazareth. *It's a theological position to call him "Jesus Christ". Someone ought to find out what the full technical scope of anointing is. I know the Greek word christos means anointed, and is used to mean anointed by or on behalf of the Lord (Hail to the Lord's anointed, as the hymn goes) in an attempt to translate the Hebrew, but anyone who was disposed to dispute the theological by or for whom point could salve their conscience by taking anointed to mean mere pouring of oil or rubbing of ointment. Why, I've been anointed myself in the oil-pouring sense, and don't claim any divine authority. I wasn't expecting to be anointed at the time, and was a touch surprised. It must have been my winning smile. Still, one can't complain. -- franzi |
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"Year of Our Lord" in the news (was: The perpetual calendar)
franzi filted:
Someone ought to find out what the full technical scope of anointing is. I know the Greek word christos means anointed, and is used to mean anointed by or on behalf of the Lord (Hail to the Lord's anointed, as the hymn goes) in an attempt to translate the Hebrew, but anyone who was disposed to dispute the theological by or for whom point could salve their conscience by taking anointed to mean mere pouring of oil or rubbing of ointment. Why, I've been anointed myself in the oil-pouring sense, and don't claim any divine authority. I wasn't expecting to be anointed at the time, and was a touch surprised. It must have been my winning smile. Still, one can't complain. "Pointy birds. Oh pointy, pointy. Anoint my head. Anointy, nointy." -- Steve Martin .....r -- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle |
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"Year of Our Lord" in the news
On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:31:19 -0700, Evan Kirshenbaum
wrote: tony cooper writes: My diploma from Northwestern University (Evanston, IL, USA) has "In the year of our Lord" on it. According to Stanford, I graduated on the Fourteenth Day of June in the Year One Thousand Nine Hundred and Eighty-Seven the Two Hundred-Eleventh Year of the Republic and the Ninety-Sixth Academic Year of the University. (sic on the lack of commas). It's only fair. I paid the tuition with money with "In God We Trust" on it. Really? I never paid my tuition in cash. Actually, I did. Not at Northwestern, but I did at Indiana University. Tuition then was $110* a semester and I didn't have a checking account. I saved money from various summer and part-time jobs and put in a savings account. I withdrew a semester's cash before heading off to campus because the bank I used didn't have an outlet in Bloomington. There was no branch banking in Indiana in those years. I paid for my tuition and other expenses in cash. It wasn't really uncommon then. Some of the jobs I had paid in cash. The wages were in a brown envelope - the pay packet preceded the pay check - with the hours worked and such printed on the front. I didn't have a checking account until I moved to the Chicago area and opened one at Lake Shore Bank. I felt quite the big-shot when I wrote my first check. You youngsters don't understand that not everyone always had checking accounts. I don't remember when my parents first opened a checking account, but I do remember my mother's "envelope system" when I was in grade school. My father would bring home his pay in cash and my mother would put amounts of it in a booklet with individual envelopes for designated expenses. So much a week would go in the "Coal" envelope, so much in the "Electric" envelope, and so on. *I think that figure's correct. Close, anyway. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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"Year of Our Lord" in the news
On Apr 2, 3:20*pm, tony cooper wrote:
On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:31:19 -0700, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: tony cooper writes: My diploma from Northwestern University (Evanston, IL, USA) has "In the year of our Lord" on it. According to Stanford, I graduated * *on the Fourteenth Day of June in the Year One Thousand Nine * *Hundred and Eighty-Seven the Two Hundred-Eleventh Year of the * *Republic and the Ninety-Sixth Academic Year of the University. (sic on the lack of commas). * * It's only fair. *I paid the tuition with money with "In God We Trust" on it. Really? *I never paid my tuition in cash. Actually, I did. *Not at Northwestern, but I did at Indiana University. *Tuition then was $110* a semester and I didn't have a checking account. *I saved money from various summer and part-time jobs and put in a savings account. *I withdrew a semester's cash before heading off to campus because the bank I used didn't have an outlet in Bloomington. *There was no branch banking in Indiana in those years. *I paid for my tuition and other expenses in cash. * It wasn't really uncommon then. *Some of the jobs I had paid in cash. The wages were in a brown envelope - the pay packet preceded the pay check - with the hours worked and such printed on the front. * I didn't have a checking account until I moved to the Chicago area and opened one at Lake Shore Bank. I felt quite the big-shot when I wrote my first check. You youngsters don't understand that not everyone always had checking accounts. *I don't remember when my parents first opened a checking account, but I do remember my mother's "envelope system" when I was in grade school. *My father would bring home his pay in cash and my mother would put amounts of it in a booklet with individual envelopes for designated expenses. *So much a week would go in the "Coal" envelope, so much in the "Electric" envelope, and so on. Checking accounts are becoming a thing of the past. The organizer of the symposium I'm speaking at in Cologne next week wants to reimburse me for my plane fare in cash, in euros -- because they don't use checks in Germany any more. If the local ATMs don't allow me to make a deposit into my US account, I'll have to carry approximately $1000 in cash (they might be able to give me dollars!) back and deposit it here. *I think that figure's correct. *Close, anyway. |
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