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"Robert Clark" wrote in message
... On Oct 23, 1:16 pm, Matt Wiser wrote: On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:54:26 AM UTC-7, Robert Clark wrote: On Oct 23, 1:40 am, "Matt Wiser" wrote: Big problem for anti-SLS types: NO political support. There's a grand total of one congresscritter who's on record as opposing SLS: Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA). And his motives are not entirely pu Space X has a facility in his district, and there's several commercial space outfits with facilities in SoCal, and no doubt some of his constitutents work at those firms. Nice try, though.... Unlike many supporters of commercial space I'm neutral on the question of the SLS. My view is that commercial space will go on whether or not the SLS is funded. Also, in an upcoming blog post I'll discuss that the very first versions of the SLS scheduled to launch in 2017 will be able to launch manned lunar missions. Bob Clark Which is something that NASA intends to to: The first human Orion/SLS mission will be Lunar Orbit. Maybe two or three lunar orbit flights of longer duration before going to L-2 or this President's precious NEO mission. I'm still a "Moon First" type, though.. After I wrote that post, I realized I left out a key word: with the first launch of the SLS in 2017 we will have the capability to launch manned LANDER lunar missions. This will be important since it will provide an important, definite mission for the SLS from the very first launch. The SLS has been called a "rocket to nowhere". That in fact it will have the capability to return us to the Moon from the very first launch will be an important point to promote its continued funding. The key word there is "capability". Unfortunately there's really no real drive or mission beyond platitudes to do so. So it's still a rocket to nowhere that can do something no one really wants to be pay for (monetarily or polically). Likely this first launch in 2017 will serve as an unmanned test mission to show the cryogenic space stages can safely land and take off from the lunar service with a human-qualified capsule. But certainly by 2019 we will be able to do the crewed missions, on the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11. Able to do in 7 years? We're not even building any hardware to get there. In 1962 we had firmer plans than now. And we were in a rush then. So it's still a rocket o nowhere. Bob Clark -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net |
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On Oct 26, 10:13*pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
wrote: "Robert Clark" *wrote in message ... On Oct 23, 1:16 pm, Matt Wiser wrote: On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:54:26 AM UTC-7, Robert Clark wrote: On Oct 23, 1:40 am, "Matt Wiser" wrote: Big problem for anti-SLS types: NO political support. There's a grand total of one congresscritter who's on record as opposing SLS: Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA). And his motives are not entirely pu Space X has a facility in his district, and there's several commercial space outfits with facilities in SoCal, and no doubt some of his constitutents work at those firms. Nice try, though.... *Unlike many supporters of commercial space I'm neutral on the question of the SLS. My view is that commercial space will go on whether or not the SLS is funded. *Also, in an upcoming blog post I'll discuss that the very first versions of the SLS scheduled to launch in 2017 will be able to launch manned lunar missions. * Bob Clark Which *is something that NASA intends to to: The first human Orion/SLS mission will *be Lunar Orbit. Maybe two or three lunar orbit flights of longer duration before going *to L-2 or this President's precious NEO mission. I'm still a "Moon First" type, though.. After I wrote that post, I realized I left out a key word: with the first launch of the SLS in 2017 we will have the capability to launch manned LANDER lunar missions. This will be important since it will provide an important, definite mission for the SLS from the very first launch. The SLS has been called a "rocket to nowhere". That in fact it will have the capability to return us to the Moon from the very first launch will be an important point to promote its continued funding. The key word there is "capability". *Unfortunately there's really no real drive or mission beyond platitudes to do so. So it's still a rocket to nowhere that can do something no one really wants to be pay for (monetarily or polically). Likely this first launch in 2017 will serve as an unmanned test mission to show the cryogenic space stages can safely land and take off from the lunar service with a human-qualified capsule. But certainly by 2019 we will be able to do the crewed missions, on the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11. Able to do in 7 years? *We're not even building any hardware to get there. In 1962 we had firmer plans than now. *And we were in a rush then. So it's still a rocket o nowhere. * Bob Clark -- Greg D. Moore * * * * * * * * *http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses.http://www.quicr.net yep rocket to no where, describes it perfectly..... pork pig squeals with delight. |
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Typical Bobbert....
On Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:38:38 AM UTC-7, bob haller wrote: On Oct 26, 10:13*pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" wrote: "Robert Clark" *wrote in message .... On Oct 23, 1:16 pm, Matt Wiser wrote: On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:54:26 AM UTC-7, Robert Clark wrote: On Oct 23, 1:40 am, "Matt Wiser" wrote: Big problem for anti-SLS types: NO political support. There's a grand total of one congresscritter who's on record as opposing SLS: Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA). And his motives are not entirely pu Space X has a facility in his district, and there's several commercial space outfits with facilities in SoCal, and no doubt some of his constitutents work at those firms. Nice try, though.... *Unlike many supporters of commercial space I'm neutral on the question of the SLS. My view is that commercial space will go on whether or not the SLS is funded. *Also, in an upcoming blog post I'll discuss that the very first versions of the SLS scheduled to launch in 2017 will be able to launch manned lunar missions. * Bob Clark Which *is something that NASA intends to to: The first human Orion/SLS mission will *be Lunar Orbit. Maybe two or three lunar orbit flights of longer duration before going *to L-2 or this President's precious NEO mission. I'm still a "Moon First" type, though.. After I wrote that post, I realized I left out a key word: with the first launch of the SLS in 2017 we will have the capability to launch manned LANDER lunar missions. This will be important since it will provide an important, definite mission for the SLS from the very first launch. The SLS has been called a "rocket to nowhere". That in fact it will have the capability to return us to the Moon from the very first launch will be an important point to promote its continued funding. The key word there is "capability". *Unfortunately there's really no real drive or mission beyond platitudes to do so. So it's still a rocket to nowhere that can do something no one really wants to be pay for (monetarily or polically). Likely this first launch in 2017 will serve as an unmanned test mission to show the cryogenic space stages can safely land and take off from the lunar service with a human-qualified capsule. But certainly by 2019 we will be able to do the crewed missions, on the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11. Able to do in 7 years? *We're not even building any hardware to get there. In 1962 we had firmer plans than now. *And we were in a rush then. So it's still a rocket o nowhere. * Bob Clark -- Greg D. Moore * * * * * * * * *http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses.http://www.quicr.net yep rocket to no where, describes it perfectly..... pork pig squeals with delight. Typical Bobbert... |
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