As I predicted, space X to get military contracts:)

On Dec 14, 5:43*pm, Me wrote:
On Dec 14, 3:58*pm, bob haller wrote:

I guess you are reassured but I am not,

It is that you are too stupid to understand

nothing made by humans is or can be perfect......

before challenger eroding o rings were not believed to be a problem

before columbia foam shedding was at most a maintence issue

before the ISS disaster the XXX was not believed to be a problem....

On Dec 14, 7:59*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Dec 14, 5:43*pm, Me wrote:
On Dec 14, 3:58*pm, bob haller wrote:

I guess you are reassured but I am not,

It is that you are too stupid to understand

nothing made by humans is or can be perfect......

before challenger eroding o rings were not believed to be a problem

before columbia foam shedding was at most a maintence issue

before the ISS disaster the XXX was not believed to be a problem....

And before the ISS explosion, farts were not believed to be a problem.

The sky is falling! *THE SKY IS FALLING!!

T H E * S K Y * I S * F A L L I N G ! ! ! !

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

you said that before columbia, and the sky did fall.....

a fast supplies to orbit could be used for lots of emergencies, like a
soyuz stuck in a bad orbit, unable to reach station or deorbit.

of course russia has a perfect record in all space activities.
perfectly bad but perfect no less......

a fast supplies to orbit could be used for lots of emergencies, like a
soyuz stuck in a bad orbit, unable to
And yet nobody but you has ever seen the 'necessity' of a
silo-launched emergency supply capability.


No one has so far till the NEXT emergency. such capacity was discussed
after columbia, but the idea got no where.

remember talk of sending care packages to columbia? if the capacity
existed nasa managers would of likely imaged the orbiter....

it appeared to be a case of why bother we cant do anything even if its
bad......

On Dec 15, 1:57*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

a fast supplies to orbit could be used for lots of emergencies, like a
soyuz stuck in a bad orbit, unable to
And yet nobody but you has ever seen the 'necessity' of a
silo-launched emergency supply capability.

No one has so far till the NEXT emergency. such capacity was discussed
after columbia, but the idea got no where.

Bull****. *Nobody but you is loony enough to talk about sticking
liquid fueled supply rockets in silos.



remember talk of sending care packages to columbia?

No, I don't. *I do recall talk of early resupply. *Certainly nothing
requiring the idiocy you've been proposing here.



if the capacity
existed nasa managers would of likely imaged the orbiter....

The capacity DID exist. *Camera on the ISS arm.



it appeared to be a case of why bother we cant do anything even if its
bad......

I give very little credence to the idea that reality in any way
matches how things have "appeared" to you. *Hell, you can't even read
an article and relay the content correctly.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

care packages to the stranded shuttle was discussed after the
fact......

do remember the shuttle was doing a hubble service and was no where
near ISS.........

To have a emergency vehicle stacked and ready to fuel, checked out for
a fast launch would either require a silo or other hardened structure
that would be unaffected by any hurricane

On Dec 15, 4:14*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Dec 15, 1:57*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

a fast supplies to orbit could be used for lots of emergencies, like a
soyuz stuck in a bad orbit, unable to
And yet nobody but you has ever seen the 'necessity' of a
silo-launched emergency supply capability.

No one has so far till the NEXT emergency. such capacity was discussed
after columbia, but the idea got no where.

Bull****. *Nobody but you is loony enough to talk about sticking
liquid fueled supply rockets in silos.

remember talk of sending care packages to columbia?

No, I don't. *I do recall talk of early resupply. *Certainly nothing
requiring the idiocy you've been proposing here.

if the capacity
existed nasa managers would of likely imaged the orbiter....

The capacity DID exist. *Camera on the ISS arm.

it appeared to be a case of why bother we cant do anything even if its
bad......

I give very little credence to the idea that reality in any way
matches how things have "appeared" to you. *Hell, you can't even read
an article and relay the content correctly.

care packages to the stranded shuttle was discussed after the
fact......

By whom? *YOU????



do remember the shuttle was doing a hubble service and was no where
near ISS.........

How could anyone 'remember' that? *You never specified which mission
you were talking about, yammerhead.



To have a emergency vehicle stacked and ready to fuel, checked out for
a fast launch would either require a silo or other hardened structure
that would be unaffected by any hurricane

1) Bull****. *It requires no such thing. *You just unstack before the
hurricane. *Since you can't launch during it anyway, that's not big
deal.

2) Bull****. *Stacking is a TINY part of the timeline, as has been
pointed out to you repeatedly. *Once again, please give a CREDIBLE
scenario for your stranded Shuttle where saving a couple days time is
critical.

Hint: *There were only 4 astronauts aboard for that mission. *You've
got WEEKS to respond to a 'stranding' in that case.

--
Fred J. McCall
Technical Lead, JSOW/JDAM/EGBU-24 Navy Mission Planning
Raytheon Company, Electronic Systems (Missile Systems)
Office: * (520) 663-8152
Pager: * *(520) 489-1551
FAX: * * *(520) 663-8925

columbia is the hubble service mission i am talking about, the one
where the foam damage ultimately killed the crew.......

care packages could of kept the crew alive long enough to launch a
rescue shuttle.....

this was all discussed at the time

On Dec 15, 4:14*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Dec 15, 1:57*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

a fast supplies to orbit could be used for lots of emergencies, like a
soyuz stuck in a bad orbit, unable to
And yet nobody but you has ever seen the 'necessity' of a
silo-launched emergency supply capability.

No one has so far till the NEXT emergency. such capacity was discussed
after columbia, but the idea got no where.

Bull****. *Nobody but you is loony enough to talk about sticking
liquid fueled supply rockets in silos.

remember talk of sending care packages to columbia?

No, I don't. *I do recall talk of early resupply. *Certainly nothing
requiring the idiocy you've been proposing here.

if the capacity
existed nasa managers would of likely imaged the orbiter....

The capacity DID exist. *Camera on the ISS arm.

it appeared to be a case of why bother we cant do anything even if its
bad......

I give very little credence to the idea that reality in any way
matches how things have "appeared" to you. *Hell, you can't even read
an article and relay the content correctly.

care packages to the stranded shuttle was discussed after the
fact......

By whom? *YOU????



do remember the shuttle was doing a hubble service and was no where
near ISS.........

How could anyone 'remember' that? *You never specified which mission
you were talking about, yammerhead.



To have a emergency vehicle stacked and ready to fuel, checked out for
a fast launch would either require a silo or other hardened structure
that would be unaffected by any hurricane

1) Bull****. *It requires no such thing. *You just unstack before the
hurricane. *Since you can't launch during it anyway, that's not big
deal.

2) Bull****. *Stacking is a TINY part of the timeline, as has been
pointed out to you repeatedly. *Once again, please give a CREDIBLE
scenario for your stranded Shuttle where saving a couple days time is
critical.

Hint: *There were only 4 astronauts aboard for that mission. *You've
got WEEKS to respond to a 'stranding' in that case.

--
Fred J. McCall
Technical Lead, JSOW/JDAM/EGBU-24 Navy Mission Planning
Raytheon Company, Electronic Systems (Missile Systems)
Office: * (520) 663-8152
Pager: * *(520) 489-1551
FAX: * * *(520) 663-8925

Commander: Rick D. Husband, a U.S. Air Force colonel and mechanical
engineer, who piloted a previous shuttle during the first docking with
the International Space Station (STS-96).
Pilot: William C. McCool, a U.S. Navy commander
Payload Commander: Michael P. Anderson, a U.S. Air Force lieutenant
colonel and physicist who was in charge of the science mission.
Payload Specialist: Ilan Ramon, a colonel in the Israeli Air Force
and the first Israeli astronaut.
Mission Specialist: Kalpana Chawla, an Indian-born aerospace engineer
who was on her second space mission.
Mission Specialist: David M. Brown, a U.S. Navy captain trained as an
aviator and flight surgeon. Brown worked on a number of scientific
experiments.
Mission Specialist: Laurel Blair Salton Clark, a U.S. Navy captain
and flight surgeon. Clark worked on a number of biological experiments

--
Fred J. McCall
Technical Lead, JSOW/JDAM/EGBU-24 Navy Mission Planning
Raytheon Company, Electronic Systems (Missile Systems)
Office: (520) 663-8152
Pager: (520) 489-1551
FAX: (520) 663-8925


hey fred, now we all know who and what you are...........

getting careless?

On Dec 15, 8:22*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

hey fred, now we all know who and what you are...........

getting careless?

Lots of people already know who I am, Bobbert. *That was a software
glitch, but, as I keep saying, I'm not hard to find.

Would you like me to post yours, too?

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

i dont care.........

I am self employeed and it doesnt matter when i post.

incidently I have been copying and pasting your posts for a couple
years to a e mail file.....

one day I can repost all the garbage you have posted here for years

Well, that is certainly the definition of creepy behavior.

On Dec 15, 9:28*pm, Dean wrote:
Well, that is certainly the definition of creepy behavior.

no it bugs me he sets all posts to delete, and since he posts all day
long that brings questions for his employeer