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Old September 11th 08, 06:10 PM posted to alt.war.nuclear,sci.space.policy
Allen Thomson
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Nicely shown in Google Earth.

Pad: 39.660 N, 124.706 E

Test Stand: 39.653 N, 124.714 E
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Old September 11th 08, 09:20 PM posted to alt.war.nuclear,sci.space.policy
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Pad: 39.660 N, 124.706 E


From which it has a fairly clear shot -- i.e., not overflying nearby
neighbors -- in a narrow sector oriented to the south.
Sunsynchronous orbits would use that sector, perhaps suggesting NK has
spysats in mind.
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Old September 12th 08, 03:15 AM posted to alt.war.nuclear,sci.space.policy
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On 2008-09-11 13:20:18 -0700, Allen Thomson said:


Pad: 39.660 N, 124.706 E


From which it has a fairly clear shot -- i.e., not overflying nearby
neighbors -- in a narrow sector oriented to the south.
Sunsynchronous orbits would use that sector, perhaps suggesting NK has
spysats in mind.


Jeez, only a mile from the coastline. They must want that launch
trajectory very badly to cite the pad in such an exposed location.

Assuming they can get the best COTS First-World imaging technology,
what kind of target resolution could they expect to get from a
homegrown spysat? The No Dong-3 doesn't have the throw weight to loft
much of a spysat, does it?

Other than maritime surveillance within carrier group strike range of
their coastlines, why would they need an overhead imaging capability?

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Old September 12th 08, 03:32 AM posted to alt.war.nuclear,sci.space.policy
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On Sep 11, 9:15*pm, Bill Baker wrote:


Jeez, only a mile from the coastline. *They must want that launch
trajectory very badly to cite the pad in such an exposed location.


Yeah, it wouldn't take much to take out. Hence, I think, they're going
to use it for "peaceful" launches. Like spysats.

Assuming they can get the best COTS First-World imaging technology,
what kind of target resolution could they expect to get from a
homegrown spysat? *


They could get something like sub-Ofeq-level, maybe a meter or so,
from a 300-kg satellite. Coverage and such might suffer.

The No Dong-3 doesn't have the throw weight to loft much of a spysat, does it?


ND3 couldn't do much, but whatever the next rocket is might get the
300 kg into space. And serve as a light ICBM.

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Old September 12th 08, 08:25 PM posted to alt.war.nuclear,sci.space.policy
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Nicely shown in Google Earth.


Even more nicely shown in pix at http://talent-keyhole.com/
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Old September 16th 08, 02:06 PM posted to alt.war.nuclear,sci.space.policy
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Just for reference.

Note that "official national designator" could mean either "what the
North Korean government calls it" or "what the US government calls
it". Neither is publicly known at this time.

http://www.janes.com/news/defence/sy...0915_1_n.shtml

Ready for launch? North Korea's new missile facility
By Jospeh S Bermudez and Tim Brown
15 September 2008
[EXCERPT]

While the official national designator of this facility is unknown, it
is common practice to name such facilities after the closest populated
place. In this case it could be either the small village of Pongdong-
ni or Kwi-gol, both of which were partially demolished during the
site's construction. The designation Pongdong-ni Missile and Space
Launch Facility is used here for readability. Other suggested names
include Tongch'ang-dong and Dongchong-ni.
 




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