AUTISM = "no drive to explore"

Experts point out that unlike normal people, the severely autistic lack
the urge to explore the world. Hmm. This could explain a few things
about certain posters in these newsgroups, who claim to lack a drive to
explore.

"And how do you educate severely autistic children? How do you teach
those who, for the most part, have no language, and no particular
compulsion to acquire it, who are BORN WITHOUT THE NEED TO EXPLORE THE
WORLD, who would rather spin round and round in a circle, or do the
same jigsaw over and over again, than play games with their peers, who
won't make eye-contact, or copy, and who fight bitterly (and sometimes
literally, with nails and teeth and small fists) for the right to
remain sealed in their own world?" - Nick Hornby, renown expert on
autism

http://www.penguin.co.uk/static/cs/u...ouse/swta.html

wrote:

Experts point out that unlike normal people, the severely autistic lack
the urge to explore the world. Hmm. This could explain a few things
about certain posters in these newsgroups, who claim to lack a drive to
explore.

Are you saying that anyone who does not want to go to Mars is Autistic?
I like to explore ways of stopping the goverment from taxing me to fund
boondogles and foolishness.

Bob Kolker

wrote:
Experts point out that unlike normal people, the severely autistic lack
the urge to explore the world. Hmm. This could explain a few things
about certain posters in these newsgroups, who claim to lack a drive to
explore.

"And how do you educate severely autistic children? How do you teach
those who, for the most part, have no language, and no particular
compulsion to acquire it, who are BORN WITHOUT THE NEED TO EXPLORE THE
WORLD, who would rather spin round and round in a circle, or do the
same jigsaw over and over again, than play games with their peers, who
won't make eye-contact, or copy, and who fight bitterly (and sometimes
literally, with nails and teeth and small fists) for the right to
remain sealed in their own world?" - Nick Hornby, renown expert on
autism

http://www.penguin.co.uk/static/cs/u...ouse/swta.html

There is a strong drive to explore, discover and develope space in
this group. It is generally expressed in practical discussions of how
to reduce launch costs, find markets and build infrastructure. A
manned mission to mars costing perhaps half a trillion dollars dosn't
seem to be a sound way to accomplish these goals.
Projects that are within the range of a few billion dollars, that
the public might support are the usual fodder. Maybe you could come up
with a plan, explain how you could indulge your drive to explore within
this price range. Or you could continue to go round and round in your
own circle.

wrote:

Experts point out that unlike normal people, the severely autistic lack
the urge to explore the world. Hmm. This could explain a few things
about certain posters in these newsgroups, who claim to lack a drive to
explore.

You just gave anyone who was on the fence a convincing reason to never
take your posts seriously again. Congratulations.

--
Erik Max Francis && && http://www.alcyone.com/max/
San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis
I love mankind; it's people I can't stand.
-- Charles Schultz

Erik Max Francis wrote:


Experts point out that unlike normal people, the severely autistic lack
the urge to explore the world. Hmm. This could explain a few things
about certain posters in these newsgroups, who claim to lack a drive to
explore.


You just gave anyone who was on the fence a convincing reason to never
take your posts seriously again. Congratulations.


Dittos on that, Mr. Francis.
Although the thought of ALR and Rand Simberg debating each other would
be hilarious:
RS: "You are wrong; you do not have the innate intellect to understand
the truth of my argument."
ALR: "You are autistic."
RS "No, I am not."
ALR: "Yes, you are."
RS: "No."
ALR: "Yes."
RS: "No."
ALR: "Yes."
RS: "No."
ALR: "Yes."
RS: "No."
ALR: "Yes."
RS: "No."
ALR: "Yes."
RS: "No."
ALR: "Yes."
RS: "No."
ALR: "Yes."
RS: "No."
ALR: "Yes."
...and so on till sunset. :-)


Pat

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 23:12:50 -0500, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

You just gave anyone who was on the fence a convincing reason to never
take your posts seriously again. Congratulations.


Dittos on that, Mr. Francis.
Although the thought of ALR and Rand Simberg debating each other would
be hilarious:

snip

I have been "debating" this creature, though I've little else to say,
and it bore little resemblance to your fantasy, Pat.

Pat Flannery wrote:

Dittos on that, Mr. Francis.

Are you one of those cranks who believes "psychiatry is all fraud?" You
must be, if you believe it is perfectly normal to lack a drive to
explore. That is a prime symptom of autism, and autism is *not* normal.

L. Merk wrote:

Are you one of those cranks who believes "psychiatry is all fraud?" You
must be, if you believe it is perfectly normal to lack a drive to
explore. That is a prime symptom of autism, and autism is *not* normal.

No, probably just another one of those radicals who thinks that
argumentum ad hominem isn't a sign of intellectual honesty.

--
Erik Max Francis && && http://www.alcyone.com/max/
San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis
What is it that shapes a species?
-- Louis Wu

Erik Max Francis wrote:

No, probably just another one of those radicals who thinks that
argumentum ad hominem isn't a sign of intellectual honesty.

I admit, I'm playing the bad cop in this thread.

He reacted *beautifully*, don't you think?

Nothing like a stress test to find defect(ive)s.

Paul

Erik Max Francis wrote:
wrote:

Experts point out that unlike normal people, the severely autistic lack
the urge to explore the world. Hmm. This could explain a few things
about certain posters in these newsgroups, who claim to lack a drive to
explore.

You just gave anyone who was on the fence a convincing reason to never
take your posts seriously again. Congratulations.

I disagree. So do experts in the mental health field. It is *not*
healthy to lack the drive to explore.