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Old May 25th 11, 05:48 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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This would be hilarious, if it weren't so sad. None of this surprises me.
With a guy like Obama in-charge. He knows as much and appreciates as much
about science as a cow.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/24/nas...ex.html?hpt=C1

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Old May 25th 11, 08:00 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Rich" wrote in message
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This would be hilarious, if it weren't so sad. None of this surprises me.
With a guy like Obama in-charge. He knows as much and appreciates as much
about science as a cow.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/24/nas...ex.html?hpt=C1

You just don't like him because he has big ears.
Are you an earist?


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Old May 25th 11, 02:05 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On May 25, 12:48*am, Rich wrote:
This would be hilarious, if it weren't so sad. *None of this surprises me. *
With a guy like Obama in-charge. *He knows as much and appreciates as much
about science as a cow.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/24/nas...ex.html?hpt=C1


I bet Obama believes the earth is billions of years old, unlike the
average anti-science conservative republican
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Old May 25th 11, 02:36 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On May 24, 10:48*pm, Rich wrote:
This would be hilarious, if it weren't so sad.


Apollo worked. The Shuttle never got past low earth orbit. What's
stupid about building on what works instead of what doesn't?

While an Apollo-like craft probably is better suited to sending men to
Mars, however, a fully-reusable development from the Shuttle probably
would make good sense as a way to bring crew more economically to the
ISS. (That the ISS doesn't seem to be anything but a white elephant,
of course, casts a bit of a pall on the whole proceedings, but is
irrelevant if one is going to crew it anyways.)

John Savard
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Old May 25th 11, 02:37 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On May 25, 7:05*am, wrote:

I bet Obama believes the earth is billions of years old, unlike the
average anti-science conservative republican


That is an unfair calumny. The Republican Party may have a few visible
nutcases, but the majority of its members have more sense than that.
Unfortunately, this doesn't appear to be preventing them from
advancing one of said nutcases to be their next candidate for
President.

Which just makes them all the more culpable.

John Savard
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Old May 25th 11, 02:56 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 25/05/2011 14:37, Quadibloc wrote:
On May 25, 7:05 am, wrote:

I bet Obama believes the earth is billions of years old, unlike the
average anti-science conservative republican


That is an unfair calumny. The Republican Party may have a few visible
nutcases, but the majority of its members have more sense than that.


Not much of one. Dubya appointed one of his dodgy minions to censor NASA
research and add the word "Theory" to all occurrences of "Big Bang",
"Evolution" and "AGW". It was rather amusing when the guy was exposed as
a liar with a fake CV and zero credibility.

Republicans in the USA cosy up to the religious right and are very
definitely the anti-science party of wilful ignorance and superstition.
I bet the ones so sure that they would be raptured last Saturday are now
wondering how they will pay next months credit card bill.

Unfortunately, this doesn't appear to be preventing them from
advancing one of said nutcases to be their next candidate for
President.

Which just makes them all the more culpable.


With any luck it will keep them out of office.

There is still a big problem with around 33% of the US population
believing that the Bible is literally the absolute truth and trying to
bend scientific evidence to fit their peculiar misreading of it.

eg Gallup Poll
http://www.gallup.com/poll/27682/One...ally-True.aspx

Regards,
Martin Brown
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Old May 25th 11, 03:25 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Quadibloc wrote:

On May 24, 10:48*pm, Rich wrote:
This would be hilarious, if it weren't so sad.


Apollo worked. The Shuttle never got past low earth orbit. What's
stupid about building on what works instead of what doesn't?


Are you saying that the shuttle "never got past low earth orbit" because
it didn't work?

You mean it was intended for interplanetary flight, but somehow couldn't
actually manage that because of manufacturing defects?

Interesting.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN
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Old May 25th 11, 10:52 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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wrote in news:9e35dcdf-0b28-4e60-b19a-
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On May 25, 12:48*am, Rich wrote:
This would be hilarious, if it weren't so sad. *None of this surprises

me. *
With a guy like Obama in-charge. *He knows as much and appreciates as m

uch
about science as a cow.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/24/nas...ex.html?hpt=C1

I bet Obama believes the earth is billions of years old, unlike the
average anti-science conservative republican


Honestly, a Republican who believed in Genesis and yet SUPPORTED space
travel would be better than Obama.
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Old May 26th 11, 07:04 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On May 25, 8:25*am, Bert Hyman wrote:


Quadibloc wrote:
On May 24, 10:48*pm, Rich wrote:
This would be hilarious, if it weren't so sad.


Apollo worked. The Shuttle never got past low earth orbit. What's
stupid about building on what works instead of what doesn't?


Are you saying that the shuttle "never got past low earth orbit" because
it didn't work?

You mean it was intended for interplanetary flight, but somehow couldn't
actually manage that because of manufacturing defects?

Interesting.


No, I didn't quite mean _that_. The Shuttle did what it was designed
for.

But obviously it wouldn't work if one tried to use it for things it
wasn't designed for. The Shuttle isn't able to land on the Moon.

So trying to use the Shuttle _as a starting point_ when one wishes to
build a craft that can land on the Moon or Mars is building on
something that doesn't work for those purposes. Not because of a flaw,
but because it is the wrong starting point.

John Savard
 




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