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Old January 4th 13, 10:49 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Koobee Wublee
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Default Simplified Twin Paradox Resolution.

On Jan 4, 10:03 am, "Paul B. Andersen" wrote:
On 04.01.2013 14:36, Pentcho Valev wrote:

Clever Draper,


Special relativity predicts both - that the travelling twin proves younger
and that the sedentary twin proves younger


Can you prove that the Lorentz transform predicts this?

We all know that you can't, which I am sure you will demonstrate
by failing to do so.


On the other hand, the little professor from Trondheim has
demonstrated that he has failed miserably at understand the Lorentz
transform. shrug

- but Einsteiniana's scenarios demonstrate only the former
prediction and conceal the latter.


Here you can see the twin scenario from both twins' point of view:

http://www.gethome.no/paulba/twins.html


Good job, paul. You have handed over the material that proves you
have no understanding of what the Lorentz transform is all about.
shrug

When B is not accelerating, the Lorentz transform says there is no way
to tell absolutely who is traveling and who is not. Time dilation
should be building up when A observes B as well as when B observes A.
The JAVA applet does not reflect what the Lorentz transform says. You
may want to decrease the acceleration distance to just 1 and increase
acceleration to 2 for a better dramatic effect. shrug

paul’s gross blunder: The mutual time dilation is building up when B
is not accelerating. The applet violates the principle of
relativity. shrug

Hopefully, paul remains ignorant on this one since else he would
remove the material just like he did with the rest of his blunders.
shrug
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Old January 5th 13, 02:14 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Paul B. Andersen[_7_]
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Default Simplified Twin Paradox Resolution.

On 04.01.2013 22:49, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Jan 4, 10:03 am, "Paul B. Andersen" wrote:
On 04.01.2013 14:36, Pentcho Valev wrote:

Clever Draper,


Special relativity predicts both - that the travelling twin proves younger
and that the sedentary twin proves younger


Can you prove that the Lorentz transform predicts this?

We all know that you can't, which I am sure you will demonstrate
by failing to do so.


On the other hand, the little professor from Trondheim has
demonstrated that he has failed miserably at understand the Lorentz
transform. shrug

- but Einsteiniana's scenarios demonstrate only the former
prediction and conceal the latter.


Here you can see the twin scenario from both twins' point of view:

http://www.gethome.no/paulba/twins.html


Good job, paul. You have handed over the material that proves you
have no understanding of what the Lorentz transform is all about.
shrug

When B is not accelerating, the Lorentz transform says there is no way
to tell absolutely who is traveling and who is not. Time dilation
should be building up when A observes B as well as when B observes A.
The JAVA applet does not reflect what the Lorentz transform says. You
may want to decrease the acceleration distance to just 1 and increase
acceleration to 2 for a better dramatic effect. shrug

paul’s gross blunder: The mutual time dilation is building up when B
is not accelerating. The applet violates the principle of
relativity. shrug


I won't bother to quibble about your nonsense.
Nobody cares about your babble anyway.


Hopefully, paul remains ignorant on this one since else he would
remove the material just like he did with the rest of his blunders.
shrug


I have deleted nothing.
I have however changed the host for my homepage, so the pointers
in old postings in the Google archive won't work.
My current homepage is at the bottom of the page.

However, many of the papers are of an "ad hoc" character
an is not found on that homepage, but you will find them
he
http://www.gethome.no/paulba/pdf/index.htm

I am sure you will find the rest of my blunders there.
Was it any particular you had in mind?

I look forward to yet another request for a reminder
of one of your blunders.


--
Paul

http://www.gethome.no/paulba/
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Old January 6th 13, 12:43 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Koobee Wublee
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Default Simplified Twin Paradox Resolution.

On Jan 5, 5:14 am, "Paul B. Andersen" wrote:
On 04.01.2013 22:49, Koobee Wublee wrote:
paul wrote:


Boo! Scare you paul. Koobee Wublee knows you are greatly haunted by
Koobee Wublee. Please relax. shrug

http://www.gethome.no/paulba/twins.html


Good job, paul. You have handed over the material that proves you
have no understanding of what the Lorentz transform is all about.
shrug


When B is not accelerating, the Lorentz transform says there is no way
to tell absolutely who is traveling and who is not. Time dilation
should be building up when A observes B as well as when B observes A.
The JAVA applet does not reflect what the Lorentz transform says. You
may want to decrease the acceleration distance to just 1 and increase
acceleration to 2 for a better dramatic effect. shrug


paul’s gross blunder: The mutual time dilation is building up when B
is not accelerating. The applet violates the principle of
relativity. shrug


I won't bother to quibble about your nonsense.
[rest of whining nonsense snipped]


OK, paul. Koobee Wublee will make you a deal. Why don’t you modify
your JAVA applet and allow both twins to travel with the same
acceleration profile. Please also allow time when both are not
accelerating but with mutual time dilation building up due to relative
speed. With the same acceleration profiles, the effect of that should
cancel out, no? please
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Old January 6th 13, 10:47 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Paul B. Andersen[_7_]
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Default Simplified Twin Paradox Resolution.

On 06.01.2013 00:43, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Jan 5, 5:14 am, "Paul B. Andersen" wrote:

http://www.gethome.no/paulba/twins.html


OK, paul. Koobee Wublee will make you a deal. Why don’t you modify
your JAVA applet and allow both twins to travel with the same
acceleration profile.


That's a request.

What's the deal?

--
Paul

http://www.gethome.no/paulba/
 




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