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  #11  
Old July 10th 04, 03:22 PM
Ron Netzley
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Hmmmm ??
I was using 8/56 binocs - and my wife was using 8/40's. Both have plenty FOV
so not sure why we missed the 3rd member.
We were in the correct feild (Cygnus) at the correct time for us (21:40 mid
point) and what were saw was definately flying a parallel path.
Do they fly an angled straight line - or a triangle formation?
(might help us the next time)

Thanx Patty!!!

Ron
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Old July 10th 04, 06:02 PM
Patty Winter
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In article ,
Ron Netzley wrote:
Do they fly an angled straight line - or a triangle formation?
(might help us the next time)


I hope that other people here who have seen NOSS satellites more
often will chime in with their take on that question, but as I posted
in my report a couple of nights ago, the geometry of the triangle
changed considerably during the pass.

When I first spotted them (not long before their maximum elevation),
they were in an elongated right triangle. By the time they disappeared
several minutes later, the triangle was very flat.


Patty

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Old July 10th 04, 06:02 PM
Patty Winter
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In article ,
Ron Netzley wrote:
Do they fly an angled straight line - or a triangle formation?
(might help us the next time)


I hope that other people here who have seen NOSS satellites more
often will chime in with their take on that question, but as I posted
in my report a couple of nights ago, the geometry of the triangle
changed considerably during the pass.

When I first spotted them (not long before their maximum elevation),
they were in an elongated right triangle. By the time they disappeared
several minutes later, the triangle was very flat.


Patty

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Old July 11th 04, 02:43 AM
IceBlue
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Using the Oribital Information Group website based at Goddard Space &
Flight Center I was unable to attain the TLE's for the NOSS Trios.

Can you tell me where I can get them from please?

Regards,
Peter


On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:12:25 +0000 (UTC),
(Ed Cannon) wrote:

Right now NOSS 2-1 trio is making bright passes, southbound in
the evening -- with good conditions and a pass not too low in
the sky they can be easy to see without binoculars. This time
of year if NOSS 2-1, 2-2, or 2-3 trio are southbound in the
evening (at least for 30 north latitude), they're almost always
bright.

Ed Cannon -
- Austin, Texas, USA
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Old July 11th 04, 02:43 AM
IceBlue
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Using the Oribital Information Group website based at Goddard Space &
Flight Center I was unable to attain the TLE's for the NOSS Trios.

Can you tell me where I can get them from please?

Regards,
Peter


On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:12:25 +0000 (UTC),
(Ed Cannon) wrote:

Right now NOSS 2-1 trio is making bright passes, southbound in
the evening -- with good conditions and a pass not too low in
the sky they can be easy to see without binoculars. This time
of year if NOSS 2-1, 2-2, or 2-3 trio are southbound in the
evening (at least for 30 north latitude), they're almost always
bright.

Ed Cannon -
- Austin, Texas, USA
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Old July 11th 04, 04:56 AM
Ted Molczan
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"IceBlue" wrote in message
news
Using the Oribital Information Group website based at Goddard Space &
Flight Center I was unable to attain the TLE's for the NOSS Trios.

Can you tell me where I can get them from please?


They are tracked by hobbyists, who maintain precise orbital elements.
Heavens-Above is one of the web sites where our elements can be found. It
also produces predictions.

http://www.heavens-above.com/

I have appended the latest elements of the second and third generation
groups.. They should be accurate to within a few seconds of time for several
months.

Ted Molczan

NOSS 2-1 (C)
1 20691U 90050C 04189.13208188 .00000010 00000-0 11974-4 0 05
2 20691 63.4170 94.8759 0378000 1.1666 358.8334 13.40453102 08
NOSS 2-1 (D)
1 20692U 90050D 04189.13215852 .00000010 00000-0 12014-4 0 08
2 20692 63.4120 94.6298 0376500 1.7843 358.2157 13.40453354 02
NOSS 2-1 (E)
1 20642U 90050E 04189.13205701 .00000010 00000-0 12094-4 0 03
2 20642 63.4130 94.2022 0373500 356.5087 3.4913 13.40453159 09

NOSS 2-2 (C)
1 21799U 91076C 04159.91786143 .00000020 00000-0 26465-4 0 01
2 21799 63.4190 56.3891 0330000 1.1993 358.8006 13.40454867 06
NOSS 2-2 (D)
1 21808U 91076D 04159.91799012 .00000010 00000-0 13155-4 0 02
2 21808 63.4160 56.6420 0333000 0.9637 359.0363 13.40455073 09
NOSS 2-2 (E)
1 21809U 91076E 04159.91787730 .00000020 00000-0 26823-4 0 04
2 21809 63.4180 56.1204 0323000 354.5800 5.4199 13.40454705 06

NOSS 2-3 (C)
1 23908U 96029C 04188.97803674 .00000010 00000-0 16436-4 0 01
2 23908 63.4240 255.7295 0187000 356.9395 3.0605 13.40455253 00
NOSS 2-3 (D)
1 23862U 96029D 04188.97801828 .00000010 00000-0 16400-4 0 00
2 23862 63.4190 255.8120 0189000 0.3497 359.6503 13.40454559 01
NOSS 2-3 (E)
1 23936U 96029E 04188.97809560 .00000010 00000-0 16418-4 0 02
2 23936 63.4260 255.9506 0188000 0.4610 359.5390 13.40455244 02

NOSS 3-1 (C)
1 26907U 01040C 04188.88707155 .00000010 00000-0 18100-4 0 09
2 26907 63.4310 193.2546 0045000 176.7852 183.2147 13.40464420 02
NOSS 3-1 (A)
1 26905U 01040A 04189.11096043 .00000040 00000-0 72370-4 0 03
2 26905 63.4310 192.8932 0046500 175.1213 184.8787 13.40464675 03

NOSS 3-2 (A)
1 28095U 03054A 04188.92116617 .00000020 00000-0 35126-4 0 06
2 28095 63.4330 110.2923 0111000 178.7082 181.2918 13.40458973 03
NOSS 3-2 (C)
1 28097U 03054C 04188.92125107 .00000020 00000-0 35115-4 0 00
2 28097 63.4350 110.4715 0111500 178.9262 181.0738 13.40458589 06


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Old July 11th 04, 04:56 AM
Ted Molczan
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"IceBlue" wrote in message
news
Using the Oribital Information Group website based at Goddard Space &
Flight Center I was unable to attain the TLE's for the NOSS Trios.

Can you tell me where I can get them from please?


They are tracked by hobbyists, who maintain precise orbital elements.
Heavens-Above is one of the web sites where our elements can be found. It
also produces predictions.

http://www.heavens-above.com/

I have appended the latest elements of the second and third generation
groups.. They should be accurate to within a few seconds of time for several
months.

Ted Molczan

NOSS 2-1 (C)
1 20691U 90050C 04189.13208188 .00000010 00000-0 11974-4 0 05
2 20691 63.4170 94.8759 0378000 1.1666 358.8334 13.40453102 08
NOSS 2-1 (D)
1 20692U 90050D 04189.13215852 .00000010 00000-0 12014-4 0 08
2 20692 63.4120 94.6298 0376500 1.7843 358.2157 13.40453354 02
NOSS 2-1 (E)
1 20642U 90050E 04189.13205701 .00000010 00000-0 12094-4 0 03
2 20642 63.4130 94.2022 0373500 356.5087 3.4913 13.40453159 09

NOSS 2-2 (C)
1 21799U 91076C 04159.91786143 .00000020 00000-0 26465-4 0 01
2 21799 63.4190 56.3891 0330000 1.1993 358.8006 13.40454867 06
NOSS 2-2 (D)
1 21808U 91076D 04159.91799012 .00000010 00000-0 13155-4 0 02
2 21808 63.4160 56.6420 0333000 0.9637 359.0363 13.40455073 09
NOSS 2-2 (E)
1 21809U 91076E 04159.91787730 .00000020 00000-0 26823-4 0 04
2 21809 63.4180 56.1204 0323000 354.5800 5.4199 13.40454705 06

NOSS 2-3 (C)
1 23908U 96029C 04188.97803674 .00000010 00000-0 16436-4 0 01
2 23908 63.4240 255.7295 0187000 356.9395 3.0605 13.40455253 00
NOSS 2-3 (D)
1 23862U 96029D 04188.97801828 .00000010 00000-0 16400-4 0 00
2 23862 63.4190 255.8120 0189000 0.3497 359.6503 13.40454559 01
NOSS 2-3 (E)
1 23936U 96029E 04188.97809560 .00000010 00000-0 16418-4 0 02
2 23936 63.4260 255.9506 0188000 0.4610 359.5390 13.40455244 02

NOSS 3-1 (C)
1 26907U 01040C 04188.88707155 .00000010 00000-0 18100-4 0 09
2 26907 63.4310 193.2546 0045000 176.7852 183.2147 13.40464420 02
NOSS 3-1 (A)
1 26905U 01040A 04189.11096043 .00000040 00000-0 72370-4 0 03
2 26905 63.4310 192.8932 0046500 175.1213 184.8787 13.40464675 03

NOSS 3-2 (A)
1 28095U 03054A 04188.92116617 .00000020 00000-0 35126-4 0 06
2 28095 63.4330 110.2923 0111000 178.7082 181.2918 13.40458973 03
NOSS 3-2 (C)
1 28097U 03054C 04188.92125107 .00000020 00000-0 35115-4 0 00
2 28097 63.4350 110.4715 0111500 178.9262 181.0738 13.40458589 06


  #18  
Old July 11th 04, 05:48 AM
Ron Netzley
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Patty;
Thanx again for your help.
Tonight my wife and I again watched the Noss "Triplet" go over (directly
overhead) and we saw all three.
I was again using my 8/56 Orion Binocs - and my wife was watching naked eye.
(6.3 mag for us here) 1 leading and the other 2 following in an elongated
slightly out of shape right triangle.
They filled my FOV and were quite bright. We watched them untill they - 1 by 1
faded from view.

Ron
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Old July 11th 04, 05:48 AM
Ron Netzley
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Patty;
Thanx again for your help.
Tonight my wife and I again watched the Noss "Triplet" go over (directly
overhead) and we saw all three.
I was again using my 8/56 Orion Binocs - and my wife was watching naked eye.
(6.3 mag for us here) 1 leading and the other 2 following in an elongated
slightly out of shape right triangle.
They filled my FOV and were quite bright. We watched them untill they - 1 by 1
faded from view.

Ron
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Old July 11th 04, 07:39 AM
Patty Winter
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In article ,
Ron Netzley wrote:
Tonight my wife and I again watched the Noss "Triplet" go over (directly
overhead) and we saw all three.


Yay! Pretty interesting, aren't they?

BTW, I forget, did you say earlier where you live?

Thanks again to Ed for bringing these current passes to everyone's
attention, and to Ted for the additional information.


Patty


 




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