Speed of light

On Jul 15, 6:49 pm, Tom Roberts wrote:

When one asks an HISTORICAL question, then such an HISTORICAL answer is
equivalent to "word of God".

That is indeed a fvcked comment not related to any intellects.
shrug

For the QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED, there is no better
source than Einstein's writings about the genesis of SR.

So, Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar is indeed Tom
Robert’s personal God. shrug

Einstein had the amazing insight that Maxwell's equations could be divorced from
his aether, and still make sense.

The insight was already pointed out by Heaviside and Lorentz when they
discovered the gamma term popping up all over the place in
electromagnetism without even going to SR. Maxwell’s equations were
built on the Galilean transform. In fact Maxwell’s equations can be
built on any transforms that still make sense. So, your comment is
very biased towards SR. It reflects Tom’s deep faith in SR and not of
scientific discipline. shrug

There are three types of people in the world:
1. Those that cannot learn form their own mistakes

Tom Roberts seem to come in mind. shrug

2. Those that can learn from their own mistakes

These folks would exclude self-styled physicists including Tom
Roberts. shrug

3. Those that can learn from the mistakes of others

Koobee Wublee comes in mind. shrug

Einstein made a number of mistakes, most of which were quite subtle; he was
therefore very fruitful for those of us in group 3.

Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar made only one
mistake in his life. That was the proposal of a negative mass density
in vacuum in which self-styled physicists have distorted the
Cosmological Constant into vacuum pressure as explained by the
following post which has met no challenges despite Tom Robert’s
prolific postings to debunk cranks. shrug

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...704956e667e302

To join group 3 in physics you need to STUDY.

Tom’s advice is a great one, but Tom fails to follow up on his own
advice. For example, it is the link above where Tom failed to
understand the field equations that would degenerate into the Poisson
equations. Tom Roberts needs to study more about SR and GR instead of
preaching through his deep faith in SR and GR. Another example is on
these infinite transforms, discovered by Lorentz, that also satisfy
the null results of the MMX and all modern experimentations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ransformations

All these infinite mathematical models say the Aether must exist while
only the Lorentz transform indicates the Aether is elusive. Through
Tom’s deep faith in SR, he conveniently reads the scripture to
validate SR and invalidate all the other mathematical models that are
experimentally indistinguishable from SR given the technology
involved. Tom has now acknowledged these mathematical models, saying
the Aether must exist, are indeed indistinguishable from SR. In order
to salvage his deep faith in SR, he resorts to bull**** as explained
in the following link. That is a total insult to anyone’s
intelligence.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...6f9bf6fff69aae

Tom Roberts is a professional experiment physicist. That is of course
very unprofessional, misleading/fraudulent, and very stupid. Does
anyone accept Tom’s bull**** answer in standing by his faith in SR?
Now, Big Dog is betrayed by Tom’s acceptance in these infinite
mathematical models that also satisfy the null results of the MMX.
Does it accept Tom’s bull**** reply? More like confused and stunned.
shrug

Sitting in your armchair and
pontificating about what you think "ought to be" is useless, and puts you firmly
in group 1.

Yes, Tom Roberts is a great example in placing himself firmly in group
1. Tom has no problems debunking cranks all these years, but when
challenged with real scholarly works, he would shy away. shrug

Because the only way to learn about the world we inhabit is by
EXPERIMENT, and without study you cannot learn about them.

Tom’s last comment is so true. Unfortunately, it is not followed up
by self-styled physicists. It is a wake-up call to question why to
place these self-styled physicists as leadership role in the study of
physics. They are just a bunch of clowns who do not know what they
are doing. Very fvcking sad. shrug

"Koobee Wublee" wrote in message
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On Jul 15, 6:49 pm, Tom Roberts wrote:

When one asks an HISTORICAL question, then such an HISTORICAL answer is
equivalent to "word of God".

That is indeed a fvcked comment not related to any intellects.
shrug

For the QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED, there is no better
source than Einstein's writings about the genesis of SR.

So, Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar is indeed Tom
Robert’s personal God. shrug

Einstein had the amazing insight that Maxwell's equations could be
divorced from
his aether, and still make sense.

The insight was already pointed out by Heaviside and Lorentz when they
discovered the gamma term popping up all over the place in
electromagnetism without even going to SR. Maxwell’s equations were
built on the Galilean transform. In fact Maxwell’s equations can be
built on any transforms that still make sense. So, your comment is
very biased towards SR. It reflects Tom’s deep faith in SR and not of
scientific discipline. shrug

There are three types of people in the world:
1. Those that cannot learn form their own mistakes

Tom Roberts seem to come in mind. shrug

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Tom Roberts AND Kinky Wobbly comes to mind.




2. Those that can learn from their own mistakes

These folks would exclude self-styled physicists including Tom
Roberts. shrug

3. Those that can learn from the mistakes of others

Koobee Wublee comes in mind. shrug
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Not when you are still toting Maxwell's aether and ignoring
Newton's emission theory based on Galilean Relativity alone.
Kinky Wobbly will never learn from his blunder. scoff
========================================

Androcles set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

The insight was already pointed out by Heaviside and Lorentz when they
discovered the gamma term popping up all over the place in
electromagnetism without even going to SR. Maxwell’s equations were
built on the Galilean transform.

Actually Maxwell's equations were already SR-ready while Newton's Laws
weren't. What Heaviside and Lorentz noticed was that discrepancy. Only
experiment (Michelson-Morley) could determine which one agreed with reality
and which one would have to shift. Turned out Maxwell was correct, it was
Newton that required the refinements we call SR.
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"Curlytop" wrote in message ...

Androcles set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

The insight was already pointed out by Heaviside and Lorentz when they
discovered the gamma term popping up all over the place...

You've got the wrong Androcles, Cottonmop. Those are not my words,
I won't have a gamma out of place. The eccentricity of an ellipse
is epsilon = sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2) where v is the minor axis and c the major,
though I doubt a ****wit like Lorentz would know it and Einstein used
beta, so whatever arse farted gamma didn't know Greek geometry.

Curlytop wrote in message

Androcles set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

He didn't.
Koobee Wublee did.
Androcles has no idea how to deal with quoting googlegroups
postings. All he can do, is draw some horizontal lines and then
spout some nonsense.

Dirk Vdm


The insight was already pointed out by Heaviside and Lorentz when
they discovered the gamma term popping up all over the place in
electromagnetism without even going to SR. Maxwell’s equations
were built on the Galilean transform.

Actually Maxwell's equations were already SR-ready while Newton's
Laws weren't. What Heaviside and Lorentz noticed was that
discrepancy. Only experiment (Michelson-Morley) could determine
which one agreed with reality and which one would have to shift.
Turned out Maxwell was correct, it was Newton that required the
refinements we call SR. --
ξ: ) Proud to be curly

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One of the Androcleses set the following eddies spiralling through the
space-time continuum:

Androcles set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

The insight was already pointed out by Heaviside and Lorentz when they
discovered the gamma term popping up all over the place...

You've got the wrong Androcles,
Merely repeating the handle that was attached to the post I was quoting.
There is nothing to distinguish one Androcles from another.

Cottonmop.
I have been subject to ridicule about my hair right from when I was a kid,
It doesn't shock or upset me any more. I stand by my pride in my natural
hairstyle.
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