Is earths polar regiones radioactive?

On 4/10/12 2:50 PM, wrote:
Sam wrote:

Protons are hydrogen nuclei in want of an electron. When plasma
consisting of protons and electrons cools sufficiently neutral
hydrogen forms.

According to the guy teaching this course:

http://edu-observatory.org/mcc/syllabus/

"Every atom of hydrogen was created by the Big Bang. None since."

Oh, wait, that guy is you.

If anyone has questions, his phone number is at the top.




Boy, jimp, are you dumb. Hydrogen atom striped of electrons
are still hydrogen nuclei! Duh!

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
On 4/10/12 2:50 PM, wrote:
Sam wrote:

Protons are hydrogen nuclei in want of an electron. When plasma
consisting of protons and electrons cools sufficiently neutral
hydrogen forms.

According to the guy teaching this course:

http://edu-observatory.org/mcc/syllabus/

"Every atom of hydrogen was created by the Big Bang. None since."

Oh, wait, that guy is you.

If anyone has questions, his phone number is at the top.

Boy, jimp, are you dumb. Hydrogen atom striped of electrons
are still hydrogen nuclei! Duh!

Nice try, still missed the point, but a hydrogen nuclei is not a
hydrogen atom.

Please see any dictionary for the definition of the word "atom".

It has to have an electron before it can be called a hydrogen atom.

Protons are created from the decay of free neutrons and if it captures
an electron, it becomes a new hydrogen atom.

On 4/10/12 7:36 PM, wrote:
In sci.physics Sam wrote:
On 4/10/12 2:50 PM, wrote:
Sam wrote:

Protons are hydrogen nuclei in want of an electron. When plasma
consisting of protons and electrons cools sufficiently neutral
hydrogen forms.

According to the guy teaching this course:

http://edu-observatory.org/mcc/syllabus/

"Every atom of hydrogen was created by the Big Bang. None since."

Oh, wait, that guy is you.

If anyone has questions, his phone number is at the top.

Boy, jimp, are you dumb. Hydrogen atom striped of electrons
are still hydrogen nuclei! Duh!

Nice try, still missed the point, but a hydrogen nuclei is not a
hydrogen atom.

Please see any dictionary for the definition of the word "atom".

It has to have an electron before it can be called a hydrogen atom.

Protons are created from the decay of free neutrons and if it captures
an electron, it becomes a new hydrogen atom.



You know jimp, all the hydrogen and most of the helium was created
in the fist three minutes, but there was no neutral hydrogen or helium
for several hundred thousand years, as the universe was too hot!

Hydrogen atoms were created in the big bang. Have you got some other
source of hydrogen? This reminds me of another question you can't seem
to answer, jimp, what's causing global warming?

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:


You know jimp, all the hydrogen and most of the helium was created
in the fist three minutes, but there was no neutral hydrogen or helium
for several hundred thousand years, as the universe was too hot!

Incorrect; the majority of the hydrogen and most of the helium was created
in the first three minutes, but that is irrelevant to the discussion.

Hydrogen atoms were created in the big bang. Have you got some other
source of hydrogen?

Free neutron decay.

Ergo, the statements "Every atom of hydrogen was created by the Big Bang.
None since." are obviously false.

You might make a case that all the quarks were created by the Big Bang
and none since, but that is not what you originally said.

On 4/10/12 9:46 PM, wrote:
In sci.physics Sam wrote:


You know jimp, all the hydrogen and most of the helium was created
in the fist three minutes, but there was no neutral hydrogen or helium
for several hundred thousand years, as the universe was too hot!

Incorrect; the majority of the hydrogen and most of the helium was created
in the first three minutes, but that is irrelevant to the discussion.

Hydrogen atoms were created in the big bang. Have you got some other
source of hydrogen?

Free neutron decay.

And the neutron was most likely produces by a *proton* turning
into a neutron via mechanisms like like the p-p chain. You
*fail* to convince me that our universe is producing protons
other that the big bang.

http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronom...r17/17f02.html

On 4/10/12 7:36 PM, wrote:


Nice try, still missed the point, but a hydrogen nuclei is not a
hydrogen atom.

Jimp, you might want to do a bit of self education.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton#Hydrogen_ion

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
On 4/10/12 9:46 PM, wrote:
In sci.physics Sam wrote:


You know jimp, all the hydrogen and most of the helium was created
in the fist three minutes, but there was no neutral hydrogen or helium
for several hundred thousand years, as the universe was too hot!

Incorrect; the majority of the hydrogen and most of the helium was created
in the first three minutes, but that is irrelevant to the discussion.

Hydrogen atoms were created in the big bang. Have you got some other
source of hydrogen?

Free neutron decay.

And the neutron was most likely produces by a *proton* turning
into a neutron via mechanisms like like the p-p chain. You
*fail* to convince me that our universe is producing protons
other that the big bang.

http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronom...r17/17f02.html

Again links that have nothing to do with the discussion.

You are the master of useless and meaningless links.

Free neutrons decay into a proton, an electron, and and electron
antineutrino.

Free neutrons have a mean lifetime of about 15 minutes.

A proton has a mean lifetime of somewhere around 10^30 years, a bit
longer than the age of the universe.

Once a free neutron has decayed, and it will, the resultant proton is
stable absent other input.

Some physics education you have there.

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
On 4/10/12 7:36 PM, wrote:


Nice try, still missed the point, but a hydrogen nuclei is not a
hydrogen atom.

Jimp, you might want to do a bit of self education.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton#Hydrogen_ion

Now you are trying to change the subject from the creation of protons to
what is the definition of a hydrogen atom.

Most people would say a hydrogen atom is a proton with an attached electron
and that absent the electron it is either a free proton or a hydrogen
ion, depending on whether the subject is particles or chemistry.

But of course, all that is irrelevant to whether or not any hydrogen has
been produced since the Big Bang.

Grasping at straws, are we?

On 4/11/12 12:20 AM, wrote:
In sci.physics Sam wrote:
On 4/10/12 7:36 PM, wrote:


Nice try, still missed the point, but a hydrogen nuclei is not a
hydrogen atom.

Jimp, you might want to do a bit of self education.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton#Hydrogen_ion

Now you are trying to change the subject from the creation of protons to
what is the definition of a hydrogen atom.

Most people would say a hydrogen atom is a proton with an attached electron
and that absent the electron it is either a free proton or a hydrogen
ion, depending on whether the subject is particles or chemistry.

But of course, all that is irrelevant to whether or not any hydrogen has
been produced since the Big Bang.

Grasping at straws, are we?



Perhaps you'll "get it" if I ask you how old the hydrogen is in your
body, jimp?

Can you identify *any* protons or hydrogen atoms that are not at least
13.7 billion years old?

On 4/11/12 12:15 AM, wrote:
In sci.physics Sam wrote:
On 4/10/12 9:46 PM, wrote:
In sci.physics Sam wrote:


You know jimp, all the hydrogen and most of the helium was created
in the fist three minutes, but there was no neutral hydrogen or helium
for several hundred thousand years, as the universe was too hot!

Incorrect; the majority of the hydrogen and most of the helium was created
in the first three minutes, but that is irrelevant to the discussion.

Hydrogen atoms were created in the big bang. Have you got some other
source of hydrogen?

Free neutron decay.

And the neutron was most likely produces by a *proton* turning
into a neutron via mechanisms like like the p-p chain. You
*fail* to convince me that our universe is producing protons
other that the big bang.

http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronom...r17/17f02.html

Again links that have nothing to do with the discussion.

You are the master of useless and meaningless links.

Free neutrons decay into a proton, an electron, and and electron
antineutrino.

Free neutrons have a mean lifetime of about 15 minutes.

A proton has a mean lifetime of somewhere around 10^30 years, a bit
longer than the age of the universe.

Once a free neutron has decayed, and it will, the resultant proton is
stable absent other input.

Some physics education you have there.




You miss the point, jimp. The BB created H and He... any free neutrons
came from those sources*. The hydrogen in your body is 13.7 billion
years old. There is no mechanism in this observable universe creating
new hydrogen. You claim new hydrogen from free neutron decay, but the
neutrons came from the H and He of the BB.

Yep there are nuclear reactions in between. Is there something you
don't like about my syllabus stating that "all the hydrogen atoms in
your body (after all you are more than 90% water are 13.7 billion
years old! Every atom of hydrogen was created by the Big Bang".

I suspect you are nitpicking mostly because I call you on your anti
climate science behavior on USENET.

Perhaps you would be happy if I said "most every atom of hydrogen was
created in the big bang. For all I know, you are anti big bang as well
as anti global warming.

You should put me in your killfile so's you won't get so railed up!

*and some light trace elements.