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Thiele's 1880 paper (was Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage)
On May 17, 11:34*am, Martin Brown
wrote: "Om Anvendelse af mindste Kwadraters Methode i nogle Tilfaelde, hvor en Kmoplikation af visse Slags uensartede tilfaeldige Fejlkilder giver Fejlene en 'systematisk' Karacter." This is pre-1948 "Olde" Danish. Easily recognisable by the sprinkling of capitals. Not really any more difficult than Ny Dansk. I'm not a Dane but a quick and dirty translation looks like this to me: Real Danes may feel free to interject. "On the application of the method of least squares in cases where a complication of certain kinds of heterogeneous, random sources of error gives the errors a 'systematic' character." I'll see what I make of the Danish paper. Poking trolls with a sharp stick is easily reward enough. ;-) |
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Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage
On May 16, 11:15*pm, "Chris.B" wrote:
On May 17, 2:21*am, Andrex muttered: Neat how it got caught in the aerial photograph for Google Earth, huh? Are we now blaming steam trains for crop circles? Has this particular locomotive caused the strange (alien) markings on the nearby roundabout? The egg shape is surely highly symbolic and offers the chance of interpretation by even by the most foolish of ufologists? Sorry to be a bit derogatory about your post but didn't you know it was caused by Google Earth? Where do you think the pictures came from? http://www.richardfisher.com |
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Thiele's 1880 paper (was Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage)
On May 17, 5:38*am, "Chris.B" wrote:
On May 17, 11:34*am, Martin Brown wrote: "Om Anvendelse af mindste Kwadraters Methode i nogle Tilfaelde, hvor en Kmoplikation af visse Slags uensartede tilfaeldige Fejlkilder giver Fejlene en 'systematisk' Karacter." This is pre-1948 "Olde" Danish. Easily recognisable by the sprinkling of capitals. Not really any more difficult than Ny Dansk. I'm not a Dane but a quick and dirty translation looks like this to me: Real Danes may feel free to interject. "On the application of the method of least squares in cases where a complication of certain kinds of heterogeneous, random sources of error gives the errors a 'systematic' character." I'll see what I make of the Danish paper. Poking trolls with a sharp stick is easily reward enough. ;-) Google translate is pretty good and you just have to paste the text in. It gave the following (not as good as yours) translations: On minimum Kwadraters Methode in some cases where a Kmoplikation of certain kinds of heterogeneous random sources of error gives Errors are a 'systematic' Karacter http://translate.google.com/#auto|en| http://www.richardfisher.com |
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Thiele's 1880 paper (was Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage)
On May 17, 4:35*pm, Helpful person wrote:
On minimum Kwadraters Methode in some cases where a Kmoplikation of certain kinds of heterogeneous random sources of error gives Errors are a 'systematic' Karacter Which is an excellent example of why (in the absence of a Babel fish) you always need a human bod in the translation chain. ;-) |
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Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage
On May 17, 5:30*pm, completely outmatched, Andrex gummed his keyboard
nervously: it is interesting that the photography uploaded to Google Earth contains such rare mobile objects as the Tornado and one has to wonder if it was serendipitous or deliberate. The Tornado? What on earth? |
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Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage
On 17/05/2011 17:32, Chris.B wrote:
On May 17, 5:30 pm, completely outmatched, Andrex gummed his keyboard nervously: it is interesting that the photography uploaded to Google Earth contains such rare mobile objects as the Tornado and one has to wonder if it was serendipitous or deliberate. The Tornado? What on earth? Rebuild from scratch modern steam train Peppercorn class A1 Pacific with a 4-6-2 wheel configuration. A live steam enthusiasts dream! http://www.a1steam.com/ It is rare in the sense that there is one of it. But if you take enough satellite photographs it could easily appear on more than one of them. He is being deliberately obscure to score points. The link to http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=51%C2%B043'44.95%22N%20%7C%201%C2%B04 3'46.72%22W&biw=1916&bih=995&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il should make it clear that it is a steam locomotive under way but with only one carriage so not a scheduled service. I expect it spent a fair amount of time pottering about on the sidings at Swindon. It would be much more interesting if they caught it on the East coast main line. As for it being rare I have been on a train passed by it on the main line once - did wonder at the time why everyone was hanging around on bridges and platforms. They have to be careful about routes and timings as very few stations can feed and water a steam train these days. Google prefers the coordinates as : 51 34 44.95N 1 43 46.72W Then you have to zoom in a lot. Regards, Martin Brown |
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Thiele's 1880 paper (was Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage)
On May 17, 8:19*am, "Chris.B" wrote:
On May 17, 4:35*pm, Helpful person wrote: On minimum Kwadraters Methode in some cases where a Kmoplikation of certain kinds of heterogeneous random sources of error gives Errors are a 'systematic' Karacter Which is an excellent example of why (in the absence of a Babel fish) you always need a human bod in the translation chain. ;-) Agreed. However, as a free translator and with a little intelligence it can be very useful. http://www.richardfisher.com |
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Thiele's 1880 paper (was Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage)
On May 17, 8:58*pm, Helpful person wrote:
Agreed. *However, as a free translator and with *a little intelligence it can be very useful. I wasn't questioning the value of Google's (and other's) free translation service. Far from it. They are very useful for doing the legwork. Very often one can simply scan an auto-translation and then pick out the detail which needs further "polishing" depending on one's needs. The system rather falls down on technical terms but seems to improve all the time. One would think there would be some sort of public feedback system to offer back the completed translation after the human checking stage. The absence of a public feedback mechanism suggests that they must use their own translation personnel to improve the quality of service. Perhaps they simply can't trust the general public not to add their own "improvements" in their own language! Monty Python and others had some amusing ketches around the theme. :-) |
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Thiele's 1880 paper (was Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage)
On May 17, 12:36*pm, "Chris.B" wrote:
On May 17, 8:58*pm, Helpful person wrote: Agreed. *However, as a free translator and with *a little intelligence it can be very useful. I wasn't questioning the value of Google's (and other's) free translation service. Far from it. They are very useful for doing the legwork. Very often one can simply scan an auto-translation and then pick out the detail which needs further "polishing" depending on one's needs. The system rather falls down on technical terms but seems to improve all the time. One would think there would be some sort of public feedback system to offer back the completed translation after the human checking stage. The absence of a public feedback mechanism suggests that they must use their own translation personnel to improve the quality of service. Perhaps they simply can't trust the general public not to add their own "improvements" in their own language! Monty Python and others had some amusing ketches around the theme. :-) Just a quick note: It's interesting to see the translations from a language that not only has different colloquialisms but also a very different culture. Translations from Chinese can be challenging. |
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Crop Circles from BBC helicopter footage
You are kidding, right?
This pattern was obviously created by an intelligent being. It is quite a sophisticated and very carefully constructed design. No tornado created this. You have two options: 1. The intelligent life is human, probably living in Wiltshire, and did it for a bit of fun. 2. The intelligent life is extra-terrestrial aliens, which visited Wiltshire and made patterns on the ground for reasons unknown. You can choose which to believe, but personally when I see some crops have been bent over my first thought is not that an alien spaceship must be involved. |
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