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Old July 5th 07, 08:27 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
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Androcles wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
You can find the parrot sketch at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s
featuring Tom Roberts as the shopkeeper.


Pentcho Valev

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Old July 6th 07, 08:27 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
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Androcles wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
You can find the parrot sketch at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s
featuring Tom Roberts as the shopkeeper.


Another shopkeeper called Francis Everitt:

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/einstein-was-right
"Relativity Passes Absolute Test. Exacting research finds Einstein was
exactly right.....Everitt, a Stanford physicist who has spent more
than 40 years on the project, says the results are sweet indeed. "It's
really extraordinary to look at the output and see Einstein looking
back, without any calculations or corrections," he says. "This
measurement is unprecedented in any test of general
relativity.".....Gravity Probe B has been a long time in the making.
First imagined in 1959, the mission has been canceled at least seven
times by NASA. Critics claimed that its precision was not worth the
cost or time. "You don't get to do extremely worthwhile programs
without fighting for them," Everitt says. "And isn't it nice to just
see Einstein right there?"

Pentcho Valev

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Old July 6th 07, 04:35 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
Androcles wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
You can find the parrot sketch at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s
featuring Tom Roberts as the shopkeeper.


Another shopkeeper called Francis Everitt:

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/einstein-was-right
"Relativity Passes Absolute Test. Exacting research finds Einstein was
exactly right.....Everitt, a Stanford physicist who has spent more
than 40 years on the project, says the results are sweet indeed. "It's
really extraordinary to look at the output and see Einstein looking
back, without any calculations or corrections," he says. "This
measurement is unprecedented in any test of general
relativity.".....Gravity Probe B has been a long time in the making.
First imagined in 1959, the mission has been canceled at least seven
times by NASA. Critics claimed that its precision was not worth the
cost or time. "You don't get to do extremely worthwhile programs
without fighting for them," Everitt says. "And isn't it nice to just
see Einstein right there?"


The boldest shopkeeper:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=

If the proper length of the train is greater than the proper length of
the tunnel, how long is the train trapped in the tunnel?

Pentcho Valev

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Old July 6th 07, 05:47 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
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On Jul 6, 8:35 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Androcles wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
You can find the parrot sketch at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s
featuring Tom Roberts as the shopkeeper.


Another shopkeeper called Francis Everitt:


http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/einstein-was-right
"Relativity Passes Absolute Test. Exacting research finds Einstein was
exactly right.....Everitt, a Stanford physicist who has spent more
than 40 years on the project, says the results are sweet indeed. "It's
really extraordinary to look at the output and see Einstein looking
back, without any calculations or corrections," he says. "This
measurement is unprecedented in any test of general
relativity.".....Gravity Probe B has been a long time in the making.
First imagined in 1959, the mission has been canceled at least seven
times by NASA. Critics claimed that its precision was not worth the
cost or time. "You don't get to do extremely worthwhile programs
without fighting for them," Everitt says. "And isn't it nice to just
see Einstein right there?"


The boldest shopkeeper:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=

If the proper length of the train is greater than the proper length of
the tunnel, how long is the train trapped in the tunnel?

Pentcho Valev


"It is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect
and expose delusion and error. But nature has not given to everyone a
talent for the purpose; and among those to whom such a talent has been
given there is often a want of disposition or of courage to do it."
-Thomas Paine

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the
highest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity
of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues,
which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven,
thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives."
-Tolstoy

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Old July 6th 07, 07:51 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
oups.com...
:
: Pentcho Valev wrote:
: Androcles wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
: You can find the parrot sketch at
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s
: featuring Tom Roberts as the shopkeeper.
:
: Another shopkeeper called Francis Everitt:
:
: http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/einstein-was-right
: "Relativity Passes Absolute Test. Exacting research finds Einstein was
: exactly right.....Everitt, a Stanford physicist who has spent more
: than 40 years on the project, says the results are sweet indeed. "It's
: really extraordinary to look at the output and see Einstein looking
: back, without any calculations or corrections," he says. "This
: measurement is unprecedented in any test of general
: relativity.".....Gravity Probe B has been a long time in the making.
: First imagined in 1959, the mission has been canceled at least seven
: times by NASA. Critics claimed that its precision was not worth the
: cost or time. "You don't get to do extremely worthwhile programs
: without fighting for them," Everitt says. "And isn't it nice to just
: see Einstein right there?"
:
: The boldest shopkeeper:
:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=
:
: If the proper length of the train is greater than the proper length of
: the tunnel, how long is the train trapped in the tunnel?
:
: Pentcho Valev

"I'm not going to ask you to explain this paradox in any exam",
and lots of handwaving... literally. What does that mean?
It means the student feels relieved and the ******* doesn't want to
be caught out.

I can explain it, THOROUGHLY.
The train moves by peristalsis.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm

"People forget..."
I'd like to squeeze the lying *******'s intestines until he remembered
his own crap and was forced to regurgitate it at the upper end.



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Old July 6th 07, 08:05 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
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"GSS" wrote in message
oups.com...
: On Jul 6, 8:35 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
: Pentcho Valev wrote:
: Androcles wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
: You can find the parrot sketch at
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s
: featuring Tom Roberts as the shopkeeper.
:
: Another shopkeeper called Francis Everitt:
:
: http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/einstein-was-right
: "Relativity Passes Absolute Test. Exacting research finds Einstein was
: exactly right.....Everitt, a Stanford physicist who has spent more
: than 40 years on the project, says the results are sweet indeed. "It's
: really extraordinary to look at the output and see Einstein looking
: back, without any calculations or corrections," he says. "This
: measurement is unprecedented in any test of general
: relativity.".....Gravity Probe B has been a long time in the making.
: First imagined in 1959, the mission has been canceled at least seven
: times by NASA. Critics claimed that its precision was not worth the
: cost or time. "You don't get to do extremely worthwhile programs
: without fighting for them," Everitt says. "And isn't it nice to just
: see Einstein right there?"
:
: The boldest shopkeeper:
:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=
:
: If the proper length of the train is greater than the proper length of
: the tunnel, how long is the train trapped in the tunnel?
:
: Pentcho Valev
:
: "It is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect
: and expose delusion and error. But nature has not given to everyone a
: talent for the purpose; and among those to whom such a talent has been
: given there is often a want of disposition or of courage to do it."
: -Thomas Paine
:

No cowardice he
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm
Einstein was a lying ******* and Everitt a stupid one for believing
the prat.


: "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the
: highest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
: obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity
: of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues,
: which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven,
: thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives."
: -Tolstoy




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Old July 7th 07, 07:36 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
Pentcho Valev
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GSS wrote:
On Jul 6, 8:35 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Androcles wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
You can find the parrot sketch at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s
featuring Tom Roberts as the shopkeeper.


Another shopkeeper called Francis Everitt:


http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/einstein-was-right
"Relativity Passes Absolute Test. Exacting research finds Einstein was
exactly right.....Everitt, a Stanford physicist who has spent more
than 40 years on the project, says the results are sweet indeed. "It's
really extraordinary to look at the output and see Einstein looking
back, without any calculations or corrections," he says. "This
measurement is unprecedented in any test of general
relativity.".....Gravity Probe B has been a long time in the making.
First imagined in 1959, the mission has been canceled at least seven
times by NASA. Critics claimed that its precision was not worth the
cost or time. "You don't get to do extremely worthwhile programs
without fighting for them," Everitt says. "And isn't it nice to just
see Einstein right there?"


The boldest shopkeeper:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=

If the proper length of the train is greater than the proper length of
the tunnel, how long is the train trapped in the tunnel?

Pentcho Valev


"It is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect
and expose delusion and error. But nature has not given to everyone a
talent for the purpose; and among those to whom such a talent has been
given there is often a want of disposition or of courage to do it."
-Thomas Paine

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the
highest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity
of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues,
which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven,
thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives."
-Tolstoy


Some time ago there seemed to be more courage or perhaps some remnants
of hope forced people to raise voices:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/ingdahl2.html
"But there has been a marked global decrease of students willing to
study physics, and funding has decreased accordingly. Not only that,
the best students are not heading for studies in physics, finding
other fields more appealing, and science teachers to schools are
getting scarcer in supply. In fact, warning voices are being heard
about the spread of a "scientific illiteracy" where many living in
technologically advanced societies lack the knowledge and the ability
for critical thinking in order to function in their daily
environment."

http://education.guardian.co.uk/scho...648111,00.html
"We are nearing the end of the "World Year of Physics", otherwise
known as Einstein Year, as it is the centenary of his annus mirabilis
in which he made three incredible breakthroughs, including special
relativity. In fact, it was 100 years ago yesterday that he published
the most famous equation in the history of physics: E=mc2. But instead
of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report showed a
dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at school.
The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the past 15
years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the next
few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers and a
lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in state
schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools. Britain was the home
of Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday and Paul Dirac, and Brits made world-
class contributions to understanding gravity, quantum physics and
electromagnetism - and yet the British physicist is now facing
extinction. But so what? Physicists are not as cuddly as pandas, so
who cares if we disappear?"

It's All Over Now, Baby Blue is a song by Bob Dylan.

Pentcho Valev

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Old July 8th 07, 12:39 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
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On Jul 7, 2:36 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
GSS wrote:
On Jul 6, 8:35 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Androcles wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
You can find the parrot sketch at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s
featuring Tom Roberts as the shopkeeper.


Another shopkeeper called Francis Everitt:


http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/einstein-was-right
"Relativity Passes Absolute Test. Exacting research finds Einstein was
exactly right.....Everitt, a Stanford physicist who has spent more
than 40 years on the project, says the results are sweet indeed. "It's
really extraordinary to look at the output and see Einstein looking
back, without any calculations or corrections," he says. "This
measurement is unprecedented in any test of general
relativity.".....Gravity Probe B has been a long time in the making.
First imagined in 1959, the mission has been canceled at least seven
times by NASA. Critics claimed that its precision was not worth the
cost or time. "You don't get to do extremely worthwhile programs
without fighting for them," Everitt says. "And isn't it nice to just
see Einstein right there?"


The boldest shopkeeper:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=


If the proper length of the train is greater than the proper length of
the tunnel, how long is the train trapped in the tunnel?


Pentcho Valev


"It is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect
and expose delusion and error. But nature has not given to everyone a
talent for the purpose; and among those to whom such a talent has been
given there is often a want of disposition or of courage to do it."
-Thomas Paine


"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the
highest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity
of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues,
which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven,
thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives."
-Tolstoy


Some time ago there seemed to be more courage or perhaps some remnants
of hope forced people to raise voices:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/ingdahl2.html
"But there has been a marked global decrease of students willing to
study physics, and funding has decreased accordingly. Not only that,
the best students are not heading for studies in physics, finding
other fields more appealing, and science teachers to schools are
getting scarcer in supply. In fact, warning voices are being heard
about the spread of a "scientific illiteracy" where many living in
technologically advanced societies lack the knowledge and the ability
for critical thinking in order to function in their daily
environment."

http://education.guardian.co.uk/scho...0,9828,1648111,...
"We are nearing the end of the "World Year of Physics", otherwise
known as Einstein Year, as it is the centenary of his annus mirabilis
in which he made three incredible breakthroughs, including special
relativity. In fact, it was 100 years ago yesterday that he published
the most famous equation in the history of physics: E=mc2. But instead
of celebrating, physicists are in mourning after a report showed a
dramatic decline in the number of pupils studying physics at school.
The number taking A-level physics has dropped by 38% over the past 15
years, a catastrophic meltdown that is set to continue over the next
few years. The report warns that a shortage of physics teachers and a
lack of interest from pupils could mean the end of physics in state
schools. Thereafter, physics would be restricted to only those
students who could afford to go to posh schools. Britain was the home
of Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday and Paul Dirac,


Is this the same Paul Dirac who applied SR to the Schroedinger
equation, and predicted the existence of anti-matter? Oh, the irony.

and Brits made world-
class contributions to understanding gravity, quantum physics and
electromagnetism - and yet the British physicist is now facing
extinction. But so what? Physicists are not as cuddly as pandas, so
who cares if we disappear?"

It's All Over Now, Baby Blue is a song by Bob Dylan.

Pentcho Valev- Hide quoted text -

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Old July 8th 07, 05:20 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
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Androcles wrote:
"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
oups.com...
:
: The boldest shopkeeper:
:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=
:
: If the proper length of the train is greater than the proper length of
: the tunnel, how long is the train trapped in the tunnel?
:
: Pentcho Valev

"I'm not going to ask you to explain this paradox in any exam",
and lots of handwaving... literally. What does that mean?
It means the student feels relieved and the ******* doesn't want to
be caught out.

I can explain it, THOROUGHLY.
The train moves by peristalsis.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm

"People forget..."
I'd like to squeeze the lying *******'s intestines until he remembered
his own crap and was forced to regurgitate it at the upper end.


I am afraid it is not crap in Einstein zombie world, just like 2+2=5
is not crap in Big Brother's world:

http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ George Orwell "1984":
"In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and
you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make
that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it.
Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of
external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy
of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that
they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be
right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or
that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If
both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if
the mind itself is controllable what then?"

Pentcho Valev

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Old July 8th 07, 06:43 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
ps.com...
: Androcles wrote:
: "Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
: oups.com...
: :
: : The boldest shopkeeper:
: :
: : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIy...elated&search=
: :
: : If the proper length of the train is greater than the proper length of
: : the tunnel, how long is the train trapped in the tunnel?
: :
: : Pentcho Valev
:
: "I'm not going to ask you to explain this paradox in any exam",
: and lots of handwaving... literally. What does that mean?
: It means the student feels relieved and the ******* doesn't want to
: be caught out.
:
: I can explain it, THOROUGHLY.
: The train moves by peristalsis.
: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm
:
: "People forget..."
: I'd like to squeeze the lying *******'s intestines until he remembered
: his own crap and was forced to regurgitate it at the upper end.
:
: I am afraid it is not crap in Einstein zombie world, just like 2+2=5
: is not crap in Big Brother's world:
:
: http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ George Orwell "1984":
: "In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and
: you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make
: that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it.
: Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of
: external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy
: of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that
: they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be
: right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or
: that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If
: both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if
: the mind itself is controllable what then?"
:
: Pentcho Valev
:
Lead the revolution. I only supply the ammunition.




 




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