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powersats (was Bush and VSE)
"Paul F. Dietz" wrote in message ... Jonathan wrote: For twenty or thirty years from now coal will not the fuel of desperation. This sentence no verb? I didn't proof read. Coal puts out so much greenhouse gasses it doesn't seem like the energy source for the future to me. Paul |
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"Paul F. Dietz" wrote in message ... Jonathan wrote: For twenty or thirty years from now coal will not the fuel of desperation. This sentence no verb? Nor any more sense than the rest of what he says, which is why I killfiled him. Please, read him for the recreational value if you must, but please don't quote him. |
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powersats (was Bush and VSE)
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 03:35:48 GMT, in a place far, far away, Brian
Thorn made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:18:37 GMT, h (Rand Simberg) wrote: More like mobilizing existing capabilities in pursuit of a single goal that the average American can understand and get behind. Not necessarily a massive increase in expenditures, although there would probably be that, too (on several fronts, including greatly increased wind energy production, etc.) If those things made economic sense, we'd be doing them, without subsidization. I'm not convinced of that. It makes more economic sense to use EELV to launch Orion. We're not doing that. I'm not referring to what NASA does. It makes more economic sense to drill the ANWR, we're not doing that. That, again, is because the government is in charge of whether or not that can occur... snip other things that may or may not make economic sense--national health care certainly doesn't Politics is a funny thing. Yes, but largely, the largest industry in the world can't ultimately afford to be driven by politics. |
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powersats (was Bush and VSE)
I agree, that via magnetic "launch ring" or seriously big gun methods
of getting the likes of rocket fuel or other sorts of inert items assisted into LEO is actually a darn good couple of methods that should have been the norm as of decades ago. All that might be needed is the final upper stage or kicker that'll finish off the necessary launch of such supplies. Deployments of beer and pizza should qualify for either of these methods, that which should entirely eliminate the first stage, including those so often necessary SRBs. BTW; SETI/OSETI are by no mistake each looking in all the wrong places. Of course, a few controlling faith-based cults want absolutely nothing to do with anything off-world, especially of that which might have once upon a time or forbid currently sustain other life of any kind. Too bad this mostly anti-think-tank of a silly Usenet from Zion hell, as such hasn't been all that much help. Apparently they've been a little too busy covering NASA's butt and otherwise promoting all that's born-again via GW Bush. - Accomplishing a substantial solar power satellite (powersat) deployment is offering a perfectly good sort of R&D goal for our NASA, although without utilizing the moon's L1 that's almost always within the sun, plus half the time receiving the moon's planetshine of mostly IR, as for otherwise accommodating this powersat task is going to demand that more and more of such spendy satellites utilize Earth's L1, whereas otherwise LEO powersats are going dark half of the time. However, it seems that pesky moon of ours is simply not all that human DNA friendly (especially by day). Besides all of that nasty radiation environment that's at least ten fold worse off than any Van Allen belt, and otherwise according to all that's NASA/Apollo, it's absolutely impossible to see and much less photograph the likes of Venus or any other planet except Earth, as seen from the moon (even though the Kodak film DR should have been more than sufficient). Oddly, there's also no stellar or solar UV energy to speak of, whereas instead the raw and unfiltered solar spectrum is rather oddly exactly the same as a terrestrial xenon lamp spectrum (must be because of all that argon and sodium atmosphere that's blocking those otherwise pesky sorts of photons). Apparently the moon's stealth magnetosphere is what's defending that otherwise highly reactive/anticathode surface from all that's cosmic or solar energy. Too bad we still haven't a robotic fly-by-rocket lander that's good enough for directly accomplishing our physically dark, electrostatic dusty and somewhat salty old moon, much less for accommodating a brave crew of us humans, as per each having established a cache of banked bone marrow that'll be available upon having returned to Earth. Unfortunately, drugs and of incest mutations are just a small part of the internal mindset problems within our badly failing NASA. You folks obviously don't know what a Zionist mindset is. Do you folks have some other idea as to why there's so much topic/ author stalking, bashings and as much applied banishment as possible? Here's an honest clue; it's not coming from Muslims or most other honest faith-based groups. Even the hard core Catholics are not nearly as anti-ETI or otherwise opposed to the investments on behalf of discovering other than terrestrial life, as are the Zionist which oppose damn near everything under the sun which orbits their flat Earth. Certain folks just like to get their way, even if they have to continually lie, join forces as partners in crimes against humanity, or having to put their own kind on a stick without a stitch of remorse. The fence jumping Atheist (aka Zion minions) are actually the official rusemasters of Usenet, as well as being as much media, textbook publication and of mainstream news and entertainment media domination as possible. There are few that can afford to opposed this faith-based infomercial spewing gauntlet, and fewer yet of those willing to speak of the truth as based upon the regular laws of physics and of the best available science. Deductive interpretations of anything is forbidden by those imposing their Zion mindset, whereas instead fear of personal trauma and of receiving the most aggressive forms of Zion spermware/****ware gets sent to your email and otherwise directly to your computer. BTW how many (all inclusive) photons are within this universe? - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell - Brad Guth On Jun 6, 7:05 pm, "Jonathan" wrote: "Henry Spencer" wrote in message ... You can't realistically hope to build and operate powersats with the sort of space transportation we've got now -- it's a whole new order of magnitude -- so the current situation, in which access to space is difficult and infrequent, simply isn't relevant. You guys just don't get it. We need a /reason/ to make space transportation cheap. SSP is the /reason/ to fund low cost to orbit. We need a goal that has as a prerequisite building the space infrastructure needed to truly exploit and colonize space. Once we can do SSP {even if it never happens"} then we ....can do anything in space. Our goal cannot be to build space infrastructure, or low cost to orbit. Because people will ask 'WHY', and no one will have an answer. Have any of you ever watched a greyhound race? Think of SSP as that little rabbit that makes the race go. Jonathan s -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | |
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powersats (was Bush and VSE)
"BradGuth" wrote in message
ups.com... You folks obviously don't know what a Zionist mindset is. Do you folks have some other idea as to why there's so much topic/ author stalking, bashings and as much applied banishment as possible? Here's an honest clue; it's not coming from Muslims or most other honest faith-based groups. Even the hard core Catholics are not nearly as anti-ETI or otherwise opposed to the investments on behalf of discovering other than terrestrial life, as are the Zionist which oppose damn near everything under the sun which orbits their flat Earth. Post proof. Don't you know that NASA is just another Zionist plot for complete and outright illegal Zionist occupation of space? Pop quiz; who was Colonel Ilan Ramon and what shuttle mission was he on? -- Bio: Colonel Ilan Ramon IAF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilan_Ramon |
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powersats (was Bush and VSE)
On Jun 10, 10:18 am, "Son of Serpent Esq" wrote:
Don't you know that NASA is just another Zionist plot for complete and outright illegal Zionist occupation of space? NASA is merely a Zion puppet agency, much like our DoD. Zions don't want anything to do with ETs, or even of any ET spores or microbes outside of our terrestrial realm. All the Usenet arguments imposed against what's actually out there are the proof positive that others and I'm right. Pop quiz; who was Colonel Ilan Ramon and what shuttle mission was he on? Have no idea. Should I? BTW not all Jews are from the Zionist dark side, just like the vast majority of us are not anything like our resident born-again LLPOF warlord(GW Bush). - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell - Brad Guth |
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powersats (was Bush and VSE)
"BradGuth" wrote in message
ups.com... On Jun 10, 10:18 am, "Son of Serpent Esq" wrote: Don't you know that NASA is just another Zionist plot for complete and outright illegal Zionist occupation of space? NASA is merely a Zion puppet agency, much like our DoD. Brad, if you couldn't tell I was trying to inject a little humor here with that rediculous line about the occupation of "infinite" space then maybe you should consider a little break from this Zionist conspiracy crap... before you like snap completely. -- Maybe a little light reading would help... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method |
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powersats (was Bush and VSE)
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:28:48 -0400, in a place far, far away, "Son of
Serpent Esq" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: "BradGuth" wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 10, 10:18 am, "Son of Serpent Esq" wrote: Don't you know that NASA is just another Zionist plot for complete and outright illegal Zionist occupation of space? NASA is merely a Zion puppet agency, much like our DoD. Brad, if you couldn't tell I was trying to inject a little humor here Brad has no sense of humor. He's nuts. Please killfile him, as most of the rest of us have, long ago, and stop feeding his illness. |
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