Dangers of Global Warming

On Tuesday, November 24, 2015 at 2:54:05 PM UTC-5, Paul Schlyter wrote:

The root problem here is that the US became democratic too early. So
people refused to get disarmed, and they didn't want to go metric
either, because they didn't want to change their habits. And since
the people decided, the US still has few restrictions for gun
ownership, and the US also still hasn't gone metric.

ROTFLMAO! What a hoot!

1) The US was set up to be a republic, NOT A DEMOCRACY, specifically to limit the power of governments (federal and local) so as to prevent tyrants from taking over.

2) The Bill of Rights recognizes the right to bear arms, along with other natural rights and PROHIBITS government interference with said rights.

3a) The US DOES use the metric system.

3b) Latin American countries were among the first to adopt the metric system. (How'd THAT work out?)


In Europe, democracy arrived later. Meanwhile, european governments
decided to go metric, and they also disarmed their people. So when
democracy arrived in Europe, people were already used to metric
units, and also to live without guns.

And promptly got ensnared in TWO ruinous World Wars that required gun-toting, Bible-reading, non-metric using Americans to come in and rescue you.

Then the Americans paid to fix the mess that "democratic" Europeans had brought on themselves.

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:49:54 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:


US has the curious phenomena of political dynasties where presidency
passes from father to son even when neither seem suited to the role.

(Cough,) British Monarchy, (cough.)

Meritocracy is far more efficient and better government

"Meritocracy" -- nanny state.

And as for efficiency, the more difficult one makes it for governments to run (ruin) peoples' lives the better.


followed closely by benign dictatorships.

Trouble with the latter is they don't stay that
way for long and a malevolent dictator is serious trouble.

That is why a country should have a document such as the US Constitution that limits the powers of governments. The UK has no such document. That's why your people are in such a mess.

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On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:49:54 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:


US has the curious phenomena of political dynasties where presidency
passes from father to son even when neither seem suited to the role.

(Cough,) British Monarchy, (cough.)

Meritocracy is far more efficient and better government

"Meritocracy" -- nanny state.

And as for efficiency, the more difficult one makes it for governments to
run (ruin) peoples' lives the better.


followed closely by benign dictatorships.

Trouble with the latter is they don't stay that
way for long and a malevolent dictator is serious trouble.

That is why a country should have a document such as the US Constitution
that limits the powers of governments. The UK has no such document.
That's why your people are in such a mess.




A document which ignored easily. Where was freedom of speech in the
McCarthy era? For many US film makers it was abroad.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cons...United_Kingdom

The main constraint on government in the UK is when the consensus think
"You can't do THAT ". That's how handguns got banned.

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 7:35:20 AM UTC-5, Mike Collins wrote:
wsnell01 wrote:

That is why a country should have a document such as the US Constitution
that limits the powers of governments. The UK has no such document.
That's why your people are in such a mess.




A document which ignored easily.

Incorrect.

Where was freedom of speech in the
McCarthy era?

It still existed, just as it always had. People were free to complain and did.

For many US film makers it was abroad.

The Hollywood Blacklist was not mandated by the government, which was mostly controlled by Democrats (ie leftists) during that era.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cons...United_Kingdom

The main constraint on government in the UK is when the consensus think
"You can't do THAT ". That's how handguns got banned.

That is what is known as Mob Rule or Tyranny of the Majority.

The system of government in the UK is dangerous.

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 1:49:54 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:

Meritocracy is far more efficient and better government followed closely
by benign dictatorships. Trouble with the latter is they don't stay that
way for long and a malevolent dictator is serious trouble.

Democracy is what keeps the ruler benign. That's what it's _for_.

John Savard

On 25/11/2015 13:55, Quadibloc wrote:
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 1:49:54 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:

Meritocracy is far more efficient and better government followed closely
by benign dictatorships. Trouble with the latter is they don't stay that
way for long and a malevolent dictator is serious trouble.

Democracy is what keeps the ruler benign. That's what it's _for_.

But it doesn't. You can easily end up with an elected dictatorship even
if you start out with a democracy. You always need a system with checks
and balances so that no one party can ever grab absolute power.

It need not be democratic in the sense that everyone gets a vote.
Go back just a couple of centuries and only landowners had a vote.

Democracy doesn't always work in the best interests of the people either
when the elected representatives are atypical of the general population
(as is increasingly the case in modern politics). The result is a
country run for the benefit of mega-corporations and hedge fund managers
who can bribe the elected representatives most effectively.

FIFA is a much smaller example of the same combination of ineptitude and
corruption that has now been exposed to the cold light of day. It is
also notionally "democratic" but not a good example at all.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

An example of the politics of empiricism was certainly apparent when the issue of plate tectonics and a rotational mechanism was introduced 10 years ago.

The initial response was to throw the kitchen sink at rotation by making every assertion possible apart from the actual mechanism based on differential rotation across latitudes. This occurred about two years after the reasoning was introduced using a common mechanism for the spherical deviation and crustal evolution/motion.

After making assertions with no authority behind it the speculative principle of rotation impacting the features of the surface crust and especially the Mid Atlantic Ridge just sat around for the next 8 years with no impetus to create a stable narrative.

What happened recently is that the stationary Earth 'convection cells' academics restored the ideology by virtue that all their academic references couldn't handle the huge differences needed to shift to a rotational perspective and a lower viscosity fluid even though the viscosity pours out of every volcano.

The'peer review' process therefore overwhelmed the emergence of differential rotation even though to exempt the Earth's rotating fluid interior from that astronomical feature is almost impossible. It happened when Wegener first proposed the outlines of plate tectonics and the reception of his work was such that he ended up dying without having the support of the geological community who were still stuck with a disruptive academic process which rewards inertia and keeps academics in their jobs. Of course the perspective changes with time as it is absorbed into consensus.

Social politicians know little about empirical politics and just how insidious it actually is. I couldn't care less what phony reputations are presented to the wider population as the business of genuine researchers is to hand on something useful to the next generation and not live off certificates pinned to the wall.

Empiricists here are commentators and not innovators.

On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 17:09:15 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Stupid iPhone keyboard changed ignoring to informing.

Smoke them if you've got them. ;ø]

In Google we lust!
Winders compulsory spellchecking still refuses to believe there is any other kind of English than US pidgin.
It's no wonder MS were named after an awful disease which gets on the nerves. ;ø]

Chris.B wrote:
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 17:09:15 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

Stupid iPhone keyboard changed ignoring to informing.

Smoke them if you've got them. ;ø]

In Google we lust!
Winders compulsory spellchecking still refuses to believe there is any
other kind of English than US pidgin.
It's no wonder MS were named after an awful disease which gets on the nerves. ;ø]


Then you haven't set it properly! My Windows laptop will change color into
colour. Actually my iPad just tried to do the same with the sentence I just
typed.

On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 20:54:05 UTC+1, Paul Schlyter wrote:

Then it might be possible to see if gun control would really be
helpful or not.

And since
the people decided, the US still has few restrictions for gun
ownership, and the US also still hasn't gone metric.

In Europe, democracy arrived later. Meanwhile, European governments
decided to go metric, and they also disarmed their people. So when
democracy arrived in Europe, people were already used to metric
units, and also to live without guns.

Know any Americans who don't know the meaning of a 9mm? ;ø]