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Old July 28th 16, 07:39 AM posted to sci.space.policy
William Mook[_2_]
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Default What goes up, or China's Skylab?

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 11:11:26 AM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 6:37:23 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 1:07:43 AM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:09:42 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless will hit a major city somewhere.......


And Bobbert is back to his old Chicken Little self...


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"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

i will remember your post, when the unthinkable happens and debris come down in a major city.

launching anything without proper plans for disposal is just plain dumb


China had plans to deorbit the space station. So, you can't fault them for not having plans.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it;

Tiangong-1 (Chinese: 天宫一号; pinyin: Tiāngōng yīh*o; literally: "Heavenly Palace 1") is China's first space station, serving as both a manned laboratory and an experimental testbed to demonstrate orbital rendezvous and docking capabilities. Launched unmanned aboard a Long March 2F/G rocket on 29 September 2011, it is the first operational component of the Tiangong program, which aims to place a larger, modular station into orbit by 2023. As of September 2011, Tiangong-1 was projected to be deorbited in 2013, and replaced over the following decade by the larger Tiangong-2 and Tiangong-3 modules.[12] However, Tiangong-1 remains in uncontrolled orbit as of 2016.

Tiangong-1 was visited by a series of Shenzhou spacecraft during its two-year operational lifetime. The first of these, the unmanned Shenzhou 8, successfully docked with the module in November 2011, while the manned Shenzhou 9 mission docked in June 2012. A third and final mission to Tiangong-1, the manned Shenzhou 10, docked in June 2013. The manned missions to Tiangong-1 were notable for including China's first female astronauts, Liu Yang and Wang Yaping.

Recent reports in Australia indicate that Western News Media may be suffering from an anti-China bias in their reporting. According to one reporter who recently visited the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 isn't scheduled for a reboost until mid-2017 and to save money, the Chinese shut down data transmission from the spacecraft. According to reports from the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 will be powered back up and reboosted sometime first quarter 2017.

http://mashable.com/2016/07/13/tiang.../#KANcqtD2KEq3

So, if you believe the Chinese, nothing to see here folks.


any stations shouldhave one last docking before being mothballed.

a dedicated deorbit module, to ensure its safely reenters, or boosted to a safe long term storage orbit


Tiangong-1 does have a dedicated deorbit module. It does ensure it safely reboosts or re-enters the atmosphere.

http://spaceflight101.com/spacecraft/tiangong-1/

The Chinese space agency recently confirms that they shut down communications with Tiangong-1 in 2015 and did not lose contact with it as mis-reported in the West. They added that they will make contact with the station again in first quarter 2017 to reboost (see the article I posted a link to from an Australian reporter who visited the Chinese space agency). So, your concerns are over the phantasms of the controlled Western press, nothing more.. The reality is far different.

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Old July 29th 16, 01:21 AM posted to sci.space.policy
William Mook[_2_]
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Default What goes up, or China's Skylab?

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 6:39:17 PM UTC+12, William Mook wrote:
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 11:11:26 AM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 6:37:23 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 1:07:43 AM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:09:42 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless will hit a major city somewhere.......


And Bobbert is back to his old Chicken Little self...


--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

i will remember your post, when the unthinkable happens and debris come down in a major city.

launching anything without proper plans for disposal is just plain dumb

China had plans to deorbit the space station. So, you can't fault them for not having plans.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it;

Tiangong-1 (Chinese: 天宫一号; pinyin: Tiāngōng yīh*o; literally: "Heavenly Palace 1") is China's first space station, serving as both a manned laboratory and an experimental testbed to demonstrate orbital rendezvous and docking capabilities. Launched unmanned aboard a Long March 2F/G rocket on 29 September 2011, it is the first operational component of the Tiangong program, which aims to place a larger, modular station into orbit by 2023. As of September 2011, Tiangong-1 was projected to be deorbited in 2013, and replaced over the following decade by the larger Tiangong-2 and Tiangong-3 modules.[12] However, Tiangong-1 remains in uncontrolled orbit as of 2016.

Tiangong-1 was visited by a series of Shenzhou spacecraft during its two-year operational lifetime. The first of these, the unmanned Shenzhou 8, successfully docked with the module in November 2011, while the manned Shenzhou 9 mission docked in June 2012. A third and final mission to Tiangong-1, the manned Shenzhou 10, docked in June 2013. The manned missions to Tiangong-1 were notable for including China's first female astronauts, Liu Yang and Wang Yaping.

Recent reports in Australia indicate that Western News Media may be suffering from an anti-China bias in their reporting. According to one reporter who recently visited the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 isn't scheduled for a reboost until mid-2017 and to save money, the Chinese shut down data transmission from the spacecraft. According to reports from the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 will be powered back up and reboosted sometime first quarter 2017.

http://mashable.com/2016/07/13/tiang.../#KANcqtD2KEq3

So, if you believe the Chinese, nothing to see here folks.


any stations shouldhave one last docking before being mothballed.

a dedicated deorbit module, to ensure its safely reenters, or boosted to a safe long term storage orbit


Tiangong-1 does have a dedicated deorbit module. It does ensure it safely reboosts or re-enters the atmosphere.

http://spaceflight101.com/spacecraft/tiangong-1/

The Chinese space agency recently confirms that they shut down communications with Tiangong-1 in 2015 and did not lose contact with it as mis-reported in the West. They added that they will make contact with the station again in first quarter 2017 to reboost (see the article I posted a link to from an Australian reporter who visited the Chinese space agency). So, your concerns are over the phantasms of the controlled Western press, nothing more. The reality is far different.


The news campaign against China's space station programme continues;

https://spaceflightnow.com/2016/07/2...s-western-u-s/

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Old July 29th 16, 01:27 AM posted to sci.space.policy
William Mook[_2_]
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Default What goes up, or China's Skylab?

On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 12:21:04 PM UTC+12, William Mook wrote:
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 6:39:17 PM UTC+12, William Mook wrote:
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 11:11:26 AM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 6:37:23 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 1:07:43 AM UTC+12, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:09:42 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:39:42 PM UTC-4, William Mook wrote:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/space...o?id=2011-053A

This station was a test of technology anyway. They shut it down in December 2015 and are planning to launch another that will continue the programme.

sooner or later, a space something thats left in orbit powerless will hit a major city somewhere.......


And Bobbert is back to his old Chicken Little self...


--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

i will remember your post, when the unthinkable happens and debris come down in a major city.

launching anything without proper plans for disposal is just plain dumb

China had plans to deorbit the space station. So, you can't fault them for not having plans.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it;

Tiangong-1 (Chinese: 天宫一号; pinyin: Tiāngōng yīh*o; literally: "Heavenly Palace 1") is China's first space station, serving as both a manned laboratory and an experimental testbed to demonstrate orbital rendezvous and docking capabilities. Launched unmanned aboard a Long March 2F/G rocket on 29 September 2011, it is the first operational component of the Tiangong program, which aims to place a larger, modular station into orbit by 2023. As of September 2011, Tiangong-1 was projected to be deorbited in 2013, and replaced over the following decade by the larger Tiangong-2 and Tiangong-3 modules.[12] However, Tiangong-1 remains in uncontrolled orbit as of 2016.

Tiangong-1 was visited by a series of Shenzhou spacecraft during its two-year operational lifetime. The first of these, the unmanned Shenzhou 8, successfully docked with the module in November 2011, while the manned Shenzhou 9 mission docked in June 2012. A third and final mission to Tiangong-1, the manned Shenzhou 10, docked in June 2013. The manned missions to Tiangong-1 were notable for including China's first female astronauts, Liu Yang and Wang Yaping.

Recent reports in Australia indicate that Western News Media may be suffering from an anti-China bias in their reporting. According to one reporter who recently visited the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 isn't scheduled for a reboost until mid-2017 and to save money, the Chinese shut down data transmission from the spacecraft. According to reports from the Chinese space agency the Tiangong-1 will be powered back up and reboosted sometime first quarter 2017.

http://mashable.com/2016/07/13/tiang.../#KANcqtD2KEq3

So, if you believe the Chinese, nothing to see here folks.

any stations shouldhave one last docking before being mothballed.

a dedicated deorbit module, to ensure its safely reenters, or boosted to a safe long term storage orbit


Tiangong-1 does have a dedicated deorbit module. It does ensure it safely reboosts or re-enters the atmosphere.

http://spaceflight101.com/spacecraft/tiangong-1/

The Chinese space agency recently confirms that they shut down communications with Tiangong-1 in 2015 and did not lose contact with it as mis-reported in the West. They added that they will make contact with the station again in first quarter 2017 to reboost (see the article I posted a link to from an Australian reporter who visited the Chinese space agency). So, your concerns are over the phantasms of the controlled Western press, nothing more. The reality is far different.


The news campaign against China's space station programme continues;

https://spaceflightnow.com/2016/07/2...s-western-u-s/


US rocket stages launched from Cape Canaveral burn up over Africa and the Indian ocean.

http://spaceflight101.com/atlas-v-mu...-atop-atlas-v/

 




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