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Landing a rover on Mars north pole is much harder to do than on its
equator,and yet the north pole with its white cap has the most important information. Here is what I would do. Have two low orbiting satellites the first to drop a bomb on the white cap that would blast debris(gas dust and hopefully water vapor) that the second satellite can pick up and analyze,as it moves through. This blast would create a new crater and you can learn a lot from a new crater. It is like digging a fast hole and if its 45 feet deep it gives you a peep inside. Reality of NASA is it likes to play it safe by going back to the equator where its analyzing equipment has over the last 32 years has shown not a molecule of water in a billion parts of tested samples. The north pole has always been the most logical place to look for water,and that is the best reason the brains of NASA only look at the equator. Many Moons ago I suggested a clean fission bomb for making such a crater,but I was told that was not nice. Bert |
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![]() G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote: Landing a rover on Mars north pole is much harder to do than on its equator,and yet the north pole with its white cap has the most important information. Here is what I would do. Have two low orbiting satellites the first to drop a bomb on the white cap that would blast debris(gas dust and hopefully water vapor) that the second satellite can pick up and analyze,as it moves through. This blast would create a new crater and you can learn a lot from a new crater. It is like digging a fast hole and if its 45 feet deep it gives you a peep inside. Reality of NASA is it likes to play it safe by going back to the equator where its analyzing equipment has over the last 32 years has shown not a molecule of water in a billion parts of tested samples. The north pole has always been the most logical place to look for water,and that is the best reason the brains of NASA only look at the equator. Many Moons ago I suggested a clean fission bomb for making such a crater,but I was told that was not nice. Bert Why not just nuke the whole polar cap, Bert? Then maybe we can detect some water vapor! Double-A |
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Double-A wrote:
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote: Landing a rover on Mars north pole is much harder to do than on its equator,and yet the north pole with its white cap has the most important information. Here is what I would do. Have two low orbiting satellites the first to drop a bomb on the white cap that would blast debris(gas dust and hopefully water vapor) that the second satellite can pick up and analyze,as it moves through. This blast would create a new crater and you can learn a lot from a new crater. It is like digging a fast hole and if its 45 feet deep it gives you a peep inside. Reality of NASA is it likes to play it safe by going back to the equator where its analyzing equipment has over the last 32 years has shown not a molecule of water in a billion parts of tested samples. The north pole has always been the most logical place to look for water,and that is the best reason the brains of NASA only look at the equator. Many Moons ago I suggested a clean fission bomb for making such a crater,but I was told that was not nice. Bert Why not just nuke the whole polar cap, Bert? Then maybe we can detect some water vapor! Double-A Double-A, You surprise me. There is no need to be so crude ! " ... In just three years, a solar sail could reach a speed of over 100,000 miles per hour. ... " See http://tinyurl.com/abarq Compare this to the ' Deep, deep, deep ' impactor impact of 23,000 mph .. See http://tinyurl.com/6ksxj Of greater interest. What exactly ' gives ' ? - why is Project Director Louis Friedman all chuckles and smiles ? - Don't you just dig those those groovey schematics of Cosmos 1 ... snug as a bug on the wepons bus of an SS-N-18, here ... ... http://tinyurl.com/86lsl, here http://tinyurl.com/8w6cq , ... here http://tinyurl.com/9fkx8 and here http://tinyurl.com/8fppb ? - Why not use a Pegasus to put Cosmos 1 into orbit ? "The three-stage Pegasus boosts small satellites weighing up to 1,000 pounds into low-Earth orbit." see http://www.orbital.com/NewsInfo/Publ...gasus_fact.pdf I recall that Cosmos 1 weighed ~ 100 (???) lbs at lift off. " - we are flying a very light spacecraft. Only 40 kg. " see http://tinyurl.com/a8us8 Uncle Sam too cheap ? "24. What happened on the suborbital test flight? On July 20 2001 a suborbital test flight, designed to deploy two sails, was launched from the submarine Borisoglebsk in the Barents Sea on board a Volna rocket. Unfortunately the Volna's on-board computer failed to issue the command for the spacecraft to separate from the third stage of the rocket. Since the spacecraft remained housed within the rocket, the sails could not deploy. The spacecraft and the third stage of the rocket continued in ballistic flight and landed in Kamchatka. In effect, although the launch was successful, the suborbital deployment test never took place. " see http://tinyurl.com/abarq ------------------ Build your own paper Pegasus here, http://tinyurl.com/afagy ... Build your own paper Cosomos 1 here, http://tinyurl.com/94z5g ... ... Mate 'em and fly 'em like the big boys. "John Garvey, data systems manager for Cosmos 1 lecturing on the suborbital flight before the (1st) suborbital launch. " See ~~~~~~~~~ http://tinyurl.com/c4uw6 ========= I may seem all bitter and ugly about this. I'm just having fun. I sincerely believe that the day of ' Solar Sailing ' has arrived. Bring on the boat races across the solar system ... ... and it's far better to use the old ICBM's rather than loose then or use them, if you get what I mean ? ... with science done the old fashoned way, on the cheap, internationally, with creativity, at risk. Pity it didn't work. There was nothing shabby about the attempt. ... maybe next time. the Raving Loonie |
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Hi Double-A Nuke the top off of Mars Shame on you. Still it would be
made by humankind,and we could take pride in such an accomplishment. However we must save as many nukes to create our destruction. I see forces building up,and soon the **** will hit the fan. Humankind is reaching its own "critical mass",and it will explode Bert |
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![]() G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote: Hi Double-A Nuke the top off of Mars Shame on you. I was just following your line of thought (and being sarcastic). Still it would be made by humankind,and we could take pride in such an accomplishment. Now you're being sarcastic. However we must save as many nukes to create our destruction. I see forces building up,and soon the **** will hit the fan. Humankind is reaching its own "critical mass",and it will explode Bert Yes Bert, the world is growing nuclear critical! While I've never much liked the idea, I think maybe a world government is the only way to get control of the situation. Einstein supported it. Double-A |
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Hi Double-A One government,and one ethical religion could be
humankind's survival. It could happen when there are only 10 people left. Bert |
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****head AKA Charles D. Bohne wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 06:51:28 -0400, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote: Hi Double-A One government,and one ethical religion could be humankind's survival. It could happen when there are only 10 people left. Bert Make that eleven, please - I will bring my wife :-) C. Ah, yes. And how is the old goat, chupacabra? I can understand her desire to head for a pole and sit on it. Its the only way she'll feel anything. |
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Just a fast question. How low could we swoop a probe down to scoop
up some of that white frost? 32 years of probing Mars rocks,and sand for water reminds me of the Shuttles doing low orbit experiments for 40 years. I think we had a orbiting Moon probe that came low to check out some frost in one of the Moons craters. Any one know some thing on this? Beert |
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![]() "Double-A" wrote in message ups.com... G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote: Landing a rover on Mars north pole is much harder to do than on its equator,and yet the north pole with its white cap has the most important information. Here is what I would do. Have two low orbiting satellites the first to drop a bomb on the white cap that would blast debris(gas dust and hopefully water vapor) that the second satellite can pick up and analyze,as it moves through. This blast would create a new crater and you can learn a lot from a new crater. It is like digging a fast hole and if its 45 feet deep it gives you a peep inside. Reality of NASA is it likes to play it safe by going back to the equator where its analyzing equipment has over the last 32 years has shown not a molecule of water in a billion parts of tested samples. The north pole has always been the most logical place to look for water,and that is the best reason the brains of NASA only look at the equator. Many Moons ago I suggested a clean fission bomb for making such a crater,but I was told that was not nice. Bert Why not just nuke the whole polar cap, Bert? Then maybe we can detect some water vapor! Double-A lol |
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