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Old January 10th 12, 07:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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I have a friend who is on his way now to Dome C in Antarctica to do
exoplanet research at the French-Italinan base camp. Using Google
Earth I clicked on the location where he would land at the edge and a
picture of drifting icebergs came up, with this message:

Doing nothing to prevent climate change could cost the global economy
5,500 billion euros, the equivalent of the two world wars and the
economic recession of 1929.

My friend has informed me that Dome C, at 10,600ft elevation near the
south pole is presently at a balmy -18C temperature, which is
approximately 10 degrees C (18 degF)warmer than normal.

Here we have had no snow this winter, with temperatures in Northern
Illinois now approximately 6 degrees C warmer than normal. Birds in
Wisconsin have not migrated south, normally they would have been gone
by mid December. There is no snow on the ground almost up to lake
Superior, which is quite unusual.

My recent trip to Cerro Tololo was also interesting, in that the Andes
snow pack that provides water during their dry summers is very low and
most reservoirs and rivers are very low. Andes glaciers on the highest
peaks are receding at alarming rates, and could disappear in places,
along with the water supply for a large portion of the country.
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Old January 10th 12, 09:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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On Jan 10, 7:53*pm, uncarollo wrote:
I have a friend who is on his way now to Dome C in Antarctica to do
exoplanet research at the French-Italinan base camp. Using Google
Earth I clicked on the location where he would land at the edge and a
picture of drifting icebergs came up, with this message:

Doing nothing to prevent climate change could cost the global economy
5,500 billion euros, the equivalent of the two world wars and the
economic recession of 1929.

My friend has informed me that Dome C, at 10,600ft elevation near the
south pole is presently at a balmy -18C temperature, which is
approximately 10 degrees C (18 degF)warmer than normal.

Here we have had no snow this winter, with temperatures in Northern
Illinois now approximately 6 degrees C warmer than normal. Birds in
Wisconsin have not migrated south, normally they would have been gone
by mid December. There is no snow on the ground almost up to lake
Superior, which is quite unusual.

My recent trip to Cerro Tololo was also interesting, in that the Andes
snow pack that provides water during their dry summers is very low and
most reservoirs and rivers are very low. Andes glaciers on the highest
peaks are receding at alarming rates, and could disappear in places,
along with the water supply for a large portion of the country.


The Piltdown man episode is instructive insofar as almost 40 years
after the guy basically left a postcard declaring it a hoax,the new
techniques which exposed in conclusively and they still would not
relent of their conclusion -

"With few exceptions nobody suggested that the finds were a hoax until
the very end. The beginning of the end came when a new dating
technique, the fluorine absorption test, became available. The
Piltdown fossils were dated with this test in 1949; the tests
established that the fossils were relatively modern. Even so, they
were still accepted as genuine"

But the real parallel is something more obvious as the sheer power of
modern imaging which allows planetary comparisons modifies the
explanation for the seasons and allows a clear distinction between
weather and global climate and removes this obstructionist trash of
human control over global temperature and leaves reasonable people to
consider pollution,a lot less glamorous but always
substantive,manageable and nobody has a problem at that level.

As for the carbon dioxide conclusion,well it is where Piltdown Man
really dovetails with your kind -

"The hoax illuminates two pitfalls to be wary of in the scientific
process. The first is the danger of inadequately examining and
challenging results that confirm the currently accepted scientific
interpretation. The second is that a result, once established, tends
to be uncritically accepted and relied upon without further
reconsideration."

http://www.tiac.net/~cri_a/piltdown/piltdown.html

 




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